OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
10000! 12/21/2010 12:01:40 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
12/21/2010 12:03:31 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
samuel l jackson is out of our pay range
we'll have to get some SAS money up in this bitch if we want him 12/21/2010 12:05:22 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
12/21/2010 12:16:53 AM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Gene Hackman
[Edited on December 21, 2010 at 12:17 AM. Reason : Beaten like a drum] 12/21/2010 12:17:24 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
fuck it, hire Donnie Jones...he can't be worse than Lowe, or if he is at least people won't be little bitches about it when it becomes clear that he sucks.
[Edited on December 21, 2010 at 3:10 AM. Reason : ahh I forgot that a large portion of you are fucking lemmings] 12/21/2010 3:07:29 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
^good idea, I would also like to hire the St. Louis Rams punter Donnie Jones 12/21/2010 3:11:55 AM |
State Oz All American 1897 Posts user info edit post |
Josh Pastner is the next Valvano.
Gregg Marshall would be an excellent choice, and could approach that level. 12/21/2010 4:22:28 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ The thing about Marshall is we could have had him back when we were hired Sid. Marshall was looking for that next step up and took the WSU job after Turgeon went down to Oklahoma.
Firing Sid now is just a stupid move given our tough schedule so far and Tracy being out. If Tracy comes back and is actually healthy and we still lose double digits games in the ACC, then maybe. 12/21/2010 8:06:16 AM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Coach Kreeton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn-DzRREF_o 12/21/2010 9:09:26 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
12/21/2010 9:22:51 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Josh Pastner is the next Valvano. " |
I would be worried that Pastner learned to many of Calipari's tricks: http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/sports/local_sports/072210-memphis-tigers-self-report-ncaa-violation
Primary concern hiring a new coach is that we run a clean program. There is a definite double standard with the UNC system BOG and we don't want them to have an excuse to dismantle our Athletics again.12/21/2010 10:51:25 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
^ did you actually read the violation that was referenced? If so, and that actually concerns you regarding "calipari's tricks" then you should also be worried about Sidney. He's committed a couple, this one back in 2008:
http://www.digtriad.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=96895 12/21/2010 11:20:16 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
1) Pastner barely even coached under Cal. Like 8 months only.
2) Pastner would, in all likelihood choke on laughter when Yow called him. 12/21/2010 11:30:05 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
The violation was in pursuit of a player who was awaiting trial for attacking some woman in Miami. Not as worried about the violation itself much more worried about who he was pursuing during that violation. Also Sidney (new to the NCAA at the time) made the mistake of talking about a recruit, he didn't commit a violation attending a game of a potential felon to try and recruit him for the team. 12/21/2010 11:31:36 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/5942902/wolfpack-await-tracy-smith-return
Quote : | "Judgments are often made prior to the new year on whether a team is NCAA worthy. And when that team isn't even at full strength, deciding on its success -- or failure -- is premature." |
Quote : | "We lost to three nationally ranked teams and a good Arizona team without Tracy Smith so you can see he's had a great impact on what's happened here,'' Lowe said. "This is the reality. Unfortunately a lot of people don't live in the real world and look at the situation we're in." |
12/21/2010 3:01:22 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
heh, Lowe is all
[Edited on December 21, 2010 at 3:14 PM. Reason : damnit photobucket] 12/21/2010 3:11:33 PM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, and did you notice how he also said that it's Smith was in the one position that was going to hurt us the most being out? Last year, wasn't it the guards that we needed? Is Lowe never going to be successful unless we have 5 healthy stars out on the court? $10 says that if Tracy comes back healthy and then Scott Wood gets hurt, he'd complain about how not having our outside shooter is really killing the offense, and that people aren't being realistic by judging him without our best outside shooter.
People are just tired of the excuses. It's a coaches job to adjust. One player, no matter how good, shouldn't throw our game off so significantly for so long, particularly given the talent that we have acquired in basically all other positions on the court.
Last year I was a huge fan of Lowe. This year I was, too. Hell, the background on my phone is still a picture of me and him from the Jimmy V Classic this year. I like the guy. He just does so many things during the game that no one seems to understand...and when we lose as much as we do, that's going to piss some people off. 12/21/2010 3:18:58 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
It's true, Tracy is our best player. No lie. 12/21/2010 3:25:52 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
In his defense, we don't have a second big man in the post with presence like Tracy. I don't think Lowe was prepared for him getting hurt (which is some NC State shit). Howell, Painter, and Vandy have struggled down there be it poor body positioning, lack of awareness of court position, or god damned butterfingers. Not to mention they don't rebound for shit.
We shot like 30% against Arizona, and we stayed in the game for the most part. We were right there with syracuse for the whole game. If we accept Wisconsin was an outlier (and everyone will have some of those), then really Lowe's not doing a bad job.
and to answer your question about having one guy out causing a team of youngsters to perform poorly... Look at UNC. They lost their big man (and their star guard), and they are struggling too. (lol, they got bumped from ESPN2 tonight for a women's game, lolz).
[Edited on December 21, 2010 at 3:30 PM. Reason : ] 12/21/2010 3:29:23 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Not to mention they don't rebound for shit. " |
Howell is a great rebounder, especially on offense12/21/2010 3:31:55 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Alright, I'll give you that. But he's lacked on defense, even though he's given better effort there than the others, and the team as a whole sucks ass at boxing out
[Edited on December 21, 2010 at 3:34 PM. Reason : we need a Dennis rodman down low... That'd turn our season around] 12/21/2010 3:33:57 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
at least our arena smells incredible 12/21/2010 3:37:55 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
^^^if the ball gets knocked out of your hands by a PG, the rebound should count.
It comes down to all the big man not stepping up against good teams. the hard part and debate is: is it coaching or are these players fill in the blank (too young, too shitty, to dumb, too weak, not mentally tough, etc...).
Right now there is no flow on D or O, and it's real hard to watch.
[Edited on December 21, 2010 at 3:38 PM. Reason : ^] 12/21/2010 3:38:23 PM |
wolfazt1 Starting Lineup 69 Posts user info edit post |
Tracy also provides leadership to this team. If Duke loses Nolan Smith or Singler they'll prob suffer as bad as we do. 12/21/2010 3:41:34 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
aha no they won't 12/21/2010 3:44:06 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If Duke loses Nolan Smith and Singler and Seth Curry and Dawkins and the Plumlees and K suffers a "back injury" they'll prob suffer as bad as we do." |
12/21/2010 3:49:00 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If Duke loses Nolan Smith or Singler they'll prob suffer as bad as we do." |
jesus you're fucking dumb12/21/2010 3:54:27 PM |
wolfazt1 Starting Lineup 69 Posts user info edit post |
I mean they'll prob lose the big games and wouldn't be ranked no.1 in the nation. I was at Cameron yesterday and without Nolan they are leading by 12(and it seems Elon can narrow the gap) in the second half. One 'glue' player makes everyone better and the contribution is not just individual stat. 12/21/2010 3:58:22 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
You realize they ARE missing one of their best players right? 12/21/2010 3:59:36 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""This is the reality. Unfortunately a lot of people don't live in the real world and look at the situation we're in."" |
YOU PEOPLE12/21/2010 4:04:03 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^eh, one of their best players, and against who? Elon? St. Louis? 12/21/2010 4:06:00 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't we need D-Horn's flaming tat powers to eek out a win against Elon last year? Theyre a powerhouse, bro 12/21/2010 4:10:06 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
I love when pussies use bullshit reasons to eliminate great candidates from consideration. It's like the fag at the bar who comes up with bullshit reasons no to talk to a chick.
- I don't really know any facts, but this guy will surely put us on probation!! - No one wants to come here because Lee Fowler's shitty coaching search didn't turn up anyone better than Lowe, and I also have no knowledge of what any coach thinks!!
I hope Yow doesn't think like the fucking failures who post shit like that. 12/21/2010 9:06:06 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
12/21/2010 9:48:43 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
Actually, my first choice:
12/21/2010 9:50:33 PM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
^^Who is that? i recognize him but am having a brain fart
[Edited on December 21, 2010 at 10:22 PM. Reason : d] 12/21/2010 10:21:24 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
It's our new coach if the price is right... 12/21/2010 10:25:19 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^, ^^ Mr Mr
Quote : | "You realize they ARE missing one of their best players right?" |
Kyrie? Mr. Mister? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNKbHJ3PTu412/21/2010 10:36:26 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
I want a coach who is NOT AFRAID of a conviction. 12/21/2010 11:12:25 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Great article by katz. Its very fair and thorough.
Lowe calls all you douchers out haha, he says you don't live in reality.
Now you've gotta feel stupid when your opinions are so out of touch the coach tells you to live in reality.
You guys sound like unc fans whining without knowing shit about basketball 12/22/2010 8:51:05 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I love when pussies use bullshit reasons to eliminate great candidates from consideration. It's like the fag at the bar who comes up with bullshit reasons no to talk to a chick not to pick up a prostitute while police are watching.
- I don't really know any facts, but this guy will surely put us on probation!! - No one wants to come here because Lee Fowler's shitty coaching search didn't turn up anyone better than Lowe, and I also have no knowledge of what any coach thinks!!
I hope Yow doesn't think like the fucking failures who post shit like that." |
And this is how you end up with a John Blake situation. Are you really delusional enough to think that if we had a similar situation on our campus the media and the UNC BOG would be so helpful in trying to sweep it under the rug. We have to run a clean ship because unlike UNC we will get raped if we don't.
[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 10:44 AM. Reason : fixed it for you]12/22/2010 10:32:35 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
after reading this thread, i am confident that the only good move is to fire lowe today. before the game. he clearly will never win anything. 12/22/2010 11:12:16 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Luckily the team isn't letting all these debbie-downer arm-chair pointguards get them down.
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/story/8814632/
Quote : | "There hasn't been much to celebrate about the start to N.C. State's 2010-11 basketball season.
Losses to Georgetown, Wisconsin, Syracuse and Arizona means there won't be a marquee non-conference victory. The Pack struggled to beat lesser teams like Tennessee Tech, Fairleigh Dickinson, and trailed Youngstown State by nearly 20 points in the first half before pulling away. And Tracy Smith the last eight games with an injury.
A solid recruiting class coupled with some key returning players had many believing this would be head coach Sidney Lowe's best team yet - and a sure fire NCAA Tournament team. But after a 6-4 start it's not a given that N.C. State ends it's five year March Madness drought.
But the head coach still tried to focus on positives when asked to diagnose the early stages of the season for his team.
"When I look at our team I look at a team that's continuing to try to grow, continuing to try to improve. We're getting better in some areas. I like the mindset right now. That's the main thing is that they still feel confident in themselves," Lowe said Tuesday on his Wolfpack Sports Network radio show. "We have to shoot the ball better. We have to score a little better.....and just keep playing, just play as hard as we can and stay together which their doing."
And not having senior forward Tracy Smith has made it difficult for a young Wolfpack team to put points on the board.
"We're playing without our leading scorer and the center piece of our offense. He opens up other opportunities for the other players," Lowe said.
But fortunately Smith will return in time for the ACC schedule. Lowe said his big man won't play against Delaware State, but he will be ready to go after Christmas. And the Wolfpack need him in order to start racking up wins.
Because if recent history is any proof, a Pack team without a big non-conference victory may need to go on an incredible tear to catch the eye of the Selection Committee.
Just look at Virginia Tech.
Seth Greenberg's Hokies finished last season 23-8 overall, went 10-6 in the ACC and had four non-conference wins against BCS level schools. Those non-conference wins were against the likes of Iowa, Georgia, Penn State and Seton Hall, but there were non-conference wins to speak of. Still, that wasn't enough to be invited to the big dance.
The Wolfpack have 20 games remaining before the ACC Tournament, and would have to finish the season 17-3 to pull its record to 23-7. Currently the only ranked opponent on the schedule is Duke (twice).
N.C. State has a good chance to string together five straight wins with Delaware State, Alabama A&M, San Diego, Elon and Wake Forest all on the upcoming schedule.
" |
12/22/2010 11:33:13 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
I still think us going 10 and 6 with a few ACC Tourney wins will get us in. VT hasn't played anyone worth a shit out of conference in years and they typically play the weakest in conference schedule year in and year out with only playing the top teams once. Plus, the committee has just as strong of a history of looking favorably at teams who started slow because of injury IF they finish well. 12/22/2010 1:37:31 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
You are entirely too optimistic to be a State fan, gtfo out of here before it's too late 12/22/2010 1:49:30 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is the reality. Unfortunately a lot of people don't live in the real world" |
Lowe will be living in the real world after the season is over, and by the real world I mean unemployed.12/22/2010 1:51:57 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I am with this guy. Plus I have seen some upside with the Begening of the season compared to how things worked under Herb
[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 2:04 PM. Reason : vg] 12/22/2010 2:01:54 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^cool post bro! 12/22/2010 2:11:13 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I am with this guy. Plus I have seen some upside with the Begening of the season compared to how things worked under Herb" |
...now this is just silly
Quote : | "The Wolfpack have 20 games remaining before the ACC Tournament, and would have to finish the season 17-3 to pull its record to 23-7. Currently the only ranked opponent on the schedule is Duke (twice)." |
i mean, it's possible, but it's sorta prefaced on tracy smith being so transformative that he turns this team into a strong 7+ seed.
[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 2:27 PM. Reason : x]12/22/2010 2:19:42 PM |