I agree, I just like overkilling points from earlier ITT lol

4/30/2010 4:05:39 PM

I'm thinking a 8 or 9 man rotation is gonna happen

Harrow
Brown
Leslie
Howell
Smith

Wood
Gonzalez
Williams
and either Vandenberg or Painter.

4/30/2010 4:09:03 PM

So we're going to be running and pressing a lot, right? Why not have an 8 or 9 (or 10) man rotation?

4/30/2010 4:57:55 PM

if Mabry commits i think he would slide into the 9th spot in the rotation

that way Josh Davis can work on the 'finer' points of the game, such as driving to the basket, shooting, not blinking and wincing in pain when shooting free throws, etc.

i do think Davis will be a very solid player by the time he's a Junior or Senior

4/30/2010 4:58:41 PM

Johnny Thomas would play before Mabry does.

4/30/2010 5:00:27 PM

so does anyone know, heard why if Mabry is our leader (way out front) he hasn't committed?

Is it because it'd be a violation to sign him until May's transfer is official or something like that or is it really the court date or what... curious of course.

4/30/2010 5:04:52 PM

i don't think mabry officially has an offer yet.....he may not get one

4/30/2010 5:08:17 PM

^^^i thought Thomas either graduated early or wasn't going to play anymore? if not then he would surely get more minutes than Mabry

[Edited on April 30, 2010 at 5:09 PM. Reason : ]

4/30/2010 5:08:55 PM

Let's not all act like Mabry is the The Second Coming here

He's a mid-level prospect with offers from 2-3 mid-level ACC schools

He'd be a nice piece to round out a stellar class, but he is not going to make or break the program

4/30/2010 5:13:04 PM

i wasn't saying that, just that if we ran a 9 man rotation, he would get minutes over Davis

4/30/2010 5:14:21 PM

All he's missing is a felony conviction. The next AI? (from 201)


[Edited on April 30, 2010 at 5:16 PM. Reason : Damn you people are blowing this thread up]

4/30/2010 5:15:25 PM

TASHAWN MABRY = CHAMPIONSHIP!!!



SIGN HIM UP SYDNEY AND MONTY

4/30/2010 5:31:54 PM

he'd commit if he had an offer. he won't get that offer for probably a week or so

4/30/2010 5:59:19 PM

terrence jones to washington

cal strikes out on the two big forward recruits. better get working on paying off the ncaa to not suspend kanter

[Edited on April 30, 2010 at 7:04 PM. Reason : ]

4/30/2010 7:00:31 PM

i thought kanter had already been suspended for a number of early season games since he played pro ball in turkey. is the jury still out on his punishment?

4/30/2010 7:02:44 PM

Quote :

"what fucking time should i get to sammy's anyone?"

i asked sammy that question today...he said 4.

4/30/2010 7:36:03 PM

man i was gonna leave work at 3:40, but i work an hour away from Raleigh. i wonder if it'll be worth it getting there at 4:40.

4/30/2010 8:02:26 PM

There's a lot of different stuff going on about the CJ party at Sammy's. WRAL says it's Tuesday at 5, but a guy on PackPride said he called Sammy's and they said it's tomorrow at 5! What's going on?!

4/30/2010 9:10:16 PM

we'll play small with smith at 5 like last year. no way wood won't start.

harrow
brown
wood
leslie
smith

=3rd or 4th(fsu) in acc

gonzo
williams
davis
howell
vandenburg

=great depth and 2nd best 2nd 5 in the acc?

4/30/2010 9:49:06 PM

on thursday at trivia they said it was tuesday.

4/30/2010 9:50:15 PM

I'd be fairly surprised if Harrow beats out Gonzalez for the starting PG spot this year. If he does great, but I wouldn't expect it particularly early on.

Brown can beat out CJW for the starting 2 guard and Leslie will probably move into the starting lineup at some point even if he doesn't begin the season there.

You can tell we haven't had many good freshmen over the years because you guys think just because they are ranked in the top 50 they will dominate from day 1.

4/30/2010 9:57:31 PM

Is CJL a good rebounder? Tracy is decent, and Brown is supposedly a good rebounder for a guard, but we're going to need someone else to rebound next year.

If he is, I say leave him at the 4 and start Wood at the 3. If he's not, I think you've got to start Howell, or at least give him big minutes at the 4. We can let Leslie hop back and fourth between the 3 and 4.

4/30/2010 10:00:59 PM

I'm not banking on them dominating, I'm banking on smith dominating, wood hitting open shots like crazy and the freshmen being able to do something productive when it gets kicked out to them, howell knowing how to dribble like a decent pg.

Javi can't do any of that 4 out of 5 games. Javi suckts. I'd be surprised if a 5 star recruit cna't beat javi easily. Not because harrow is amazing but because javi is awful.

Javi will be a great spark off the bench.

4/30/2010 10:28:47 PM

I wouldn't count on Howell learning to dribble like a decent pg

4/30/2010 10:44:26 PM

fuck that. howell is the man, he'll knock down 3's, drive, dish.. rebound, post up.. complete player

4/30/2010 10:48:58 PM

I heard Howell can dunk from the 3 point line... NBA 3 point line

4/30/2010 10:52:41 PM

javi and his stupid ass turnovers basically make him a freshman. he might still start from seniority but him and harrow should be similar in effectiveness next year. the only thing he really does that harrow/brown likely cant is shoot near 40% from 3

4/30/2010 10:58:26 PM

That crossover Howell pulled in the ACCT was pretty sweet.

4/30/2010 11:00:11 PM

javi hate ITT.

I LOVE IT.

Seriously, if he averages more than 10 mpg next year, then Harrow is ridiculously overrated.

4/30/2010 11:19:08 PM

Quote :

"javi and his stupid ass turnovers basically make him a freshman."

pls not 4 more years of Javi!!!

Quote :

"Seriously, if he averages more than 10 mpg next year, then Harrow is ridiculously overrated."

Not true. Javi could see as much as 20 MPG next year and it mean nothing about how over or under rated Harrow is.

4/30/2010 11:36:09 PM

I cannot wait for next season; we'll be garbage in football, regardless of Robert Crisp... but our basketball team will have sooo much potential.

5/1/2010 12:50:28 AM

who is robet crist and what happened to our football expectations? I thought with wilson, wrs, and irving coming back, we would be pretty hyped for football? whats wrong?

5/1/2010 1:00:52 AM

^He is the second best OL in the country, 13th on the Rivals top 100.
http://tinyurl.com/33lewym

but... bttt.

5/1/2010 1:29:50 AM

Howell is a really good passer from the key.

He's like Evtimov with working ACLs

5/1/2010 3:33:52 AM

^ more size/ athleticism, can't hit the three. So no howell is nothing like evtimov...

5/1/2010 8:32:38 AM

I have never seen Howell attempt a scoop shot.

Also, I have seen Howell dunk.

5/1/2010 9:44:12 AM

Basketball is gonna own, football is gonna be ehhh

At least we should continue to score a lot of points!

5/1/2010 10:21:05 AM

^yeah, even if we lose..wilson will be bombing on people so it will be fun to watch. then we have basketball season.

5/1/2010 10:30:36 AM

So regarding Terrence Jones. He holds a press conference to commit to Washington. Later that night reports surface that Calipari called him AFTERWARDS and now he is still thinking hard about where he is going to go. Evan Daniels on Scout was saying that he has NEVER seen anything like this before and it's very, very strange.

I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but come on... What could Cal have possibly said after that press conference to get him to at least think about changing his mind. Shady, shady, shady.

Quote :

"I'd be fairly surprised if Harrow beats out Gonzalez for the starting PG spot this year."

Ditto. Javi is at least adequate in smaller bursts... Brown is so obviously better than any other option we have at the two so I see no reason why he'd not start. CJ Williams is barely a passable bench option for a top division ACC team.

[Edited on May 1, 2010 at 10:35 AM. Reason : x]

5/1/2010 10:33:29 AM

Jones' parents have come out and said that Jones actually called Calipari, so I don't know what to believe anymore.

5/1/2010 10:34:34 AM

I don't have the up arrow on my phone, so up two... CJ is more than a barely passable bench player for sure.

5/1/2010 11:02:42 AM

Based on what? His third worst on the team PPS? In front of only Painter and Vandenburg. He was the only one in the entire top nine of our rotation that had a sub-1.00 PPS.

He was flat awful from three -- less than 25%! He very rarely does anything with the ball in his hand and doesn't create his own shot. I'm not sure why anyone would find that acceptable for a two guard or swing man on a top division ACC team.

I don't mean to kill the kid but Mays contributed far more last year to the team than Williams did. He was a near empty jersey that got twenty minutes a game.

Quote :

"You can tell we haven't had many good freshmen over the years because you guys think just because they are ranked in the top 50 they will dominate from day 1."

Again pulling from Rally's old post. This is so true, though I think Brown with his year of prep school and his physical maturity is ready to step right in. We're also spoiled because of how Hickson performed as a frosh despite the team and how much of a leader Hodge was from the very beginning. But you're very correct in general.

[Edited on May 1, 2010 at 11:16 AM. Reason : x]

5/1/2010 11:14:10 AM

you have to imagine that there's something going on behind the scenes here (Calipari gave Jones money, Jones commits to UW, Calipari's pissed)

5/1/2010 11:23:25 AM

All the existing guys have to do is practice shooting, rebounding, and defense. Smith already commands a double team, and Harrow, and Brown will be breaking down defenses.

Everyone else just has to be ready to make a shot or grab a rebound. CJW doesn't need to worry about creating or making plays. Just hit a damn open shot. Basketball is about hitting shots. Don't make it harder for the role players

I also suspect that CJL is going to be like Henson at carolina -- not really a big factor until the end of the year

[Edited on May 1, 2010 at 11:25 AM. Reason : .]

5/1/2010 11:23:57 AM

^with lo and harrow he could be on the end of a lot of easy buckets.

5/1/2010 11:35:30 AM

True that. Henson had shitty Larry Drew feeding him.

5/1/2010 12:26:18 PM

^But he got a lot of rebounds when Strickland tried to drive and just threw it off the glass.

5/1/2010 2:32:04 PM

lmao at how any can justify OUR basketball program not having all three of these guys start. why in the hell do you think they are coming here?

5/1/2010 3:47:28 PM

Quote :

"fuck that. howell is the man, he'll knock down 3's, drive, dish.. rebound, post up.. complete player"

last year howell was 2-11 from three for a whopping 18.2%

i like howell a lot. but i do not want to see him shooting three's

5/1/2010 4:21:08 PM

thats not enough shots to say he was an 18% shooter. I'm sure wood had stretches of 2/11 but if he was really that bad he wouldn't be shooting them at all.

5/1/2010 4:44:55 PM