"a win is a win" = I'm too much of a pussy to call out bad basketball for what it is

12/22/2010 9:04:23 PM

Duke is still pissed that they only beat Butler by 1 point last year

12/22/2010 9:05:03 PM

8.3% from the 3.

12/22/2010 9:05:04 PM

I reckon we could be a bunch of sad bastards, but that doesn't seem like much fun.

Maybe we should do like you guys and pick back-up teams.

12/22/2010 9:05:28 PM

I like how y'all claim moral victory when we lose a close game, but when we win a close game against an inferior opponent then it's "a win is a win"...that way you can deflect as much responsibility away from the coach as possible

12/22/2010 9:05:54 PM

i pull for whoever is playing state as well. that way, no matter the outcome of our games, i'm never disappointed.

12/22/2010 9:06:32 PM

or we could blame Sid for our leading scorer going scoreless for the first 39 minutes and 57 seconds of the game

12/22/2010 9:06:45 PM

duke beat butler by 2 pts

12/22/2010 9:06:49 PM

You guys are taking the "a win is win" comment completely out of context.

That shit tonight was terrible. Read the conversation. I'm the one the saying we need to actually watch what's happening on the court, not just the box score. Other dude is harping on the bottom line is all that matters.

Figures that you're all slow as fuck.

12/22/2010 9:07:24 PM

^^my bad

they're still pissed that they eaked out a win against inferior competition

[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 9:07 PM. Reason : ^^]

12/22/2010 9:07:46 PM

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"No complaining about tonight. Bottom line: we won. Doesn't matter how we did it, a win's a win."

i'm going to complain, because we almost lost to a shitty school. not we barely won, but we almost fucking lost.

12/22/2010 9:08:31 PM

Butler ~= Delaware state
Play during this game ~= Play during Butler-Duke game


Even stevens. All comparisons are valid. Degree doesn't matter

12/22/2010 9:08:37 PM

I mean am I the only person that can see my posts on the last page

[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 9:09 PM. Reason : And that fact that the post you're quoting was directed at one person]

12/22/2010 9:09:07 PM

^^as black and white as you mother fuckers are, that's a dose of your own medicine.

[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 9:09 PM. Reason : l]

12/22/2010 9:09:17 PM

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"not we barely won, but we almost fucking lost"

typical NC State fan mentality

get pissed off when we lose

get pissed off when we win

12/22/2010 9:09:41 PM

^^^you're the only person that reads them



DAAAAAAAAAMMNNNN

[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 9:10 PM. Reason : ]

12/22/2010 9:09:55 PM

Sid finally figured out a way to get Scott Wood to make a 2 point basket that wasn't a long jumper or a fast break lay up/dunk. Hell, he even got him to work through his allergy to rebounds. This game was a success!

12/22/2010 9:10:14 PM

i don't know what to think about Scott Wood

12/22/2010 9:10:49 PM

i'm in pennsylvania and couldn't watch, but i will say this anyway:

w/o tracy, a win is indeed a win.

12/22/2010 9:11:25 PM

see I would agree with that if we were playing a conference game

12/22/2010 9:13:32 PM

Tracy needs to man up. He may have already screwed our NCAA chances. Play through the perceived pain. He wants to be in the NBA? The NBA season is a lot more demanding, and if you can't play in pain, you will find yourself out of the league.

12/22/2010 9:14:09 PM

no dude, as far as conference games w/o tracy go: a win is a fucking miracle.

12/22/2010 9:14:13 PM

Harrow being the worst shooter in the ACC is very surprising to me. I didn't think he'd be much more than a 30% shooter from 3 as a freshman but his terrible shooting to date was unexpected

12/22/2010 9:14:52 PM

^^^are you a male nurse fokker

^on the bright side, he leads the ACC in Assist : Turnover ratio

12/22/2010 9:14:59 PM

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"Harrow being the worst shooter in the ACC is very surprising to me. I didn't think he'd be much more than a 30% shooter from 3 as a freshman but his terrible shooting to date was unexpected "

Who ya gonna blame

Sid Lowe

12/22/2010 9:15:47 PM

i bet he was great in high school and sid made him worse.

12/22/2010 9:16:12 PM

^^ghostbusters?

[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 9:17 PM. Reason : .]

12/22/2010 9:16:46 PM

Too much clapping by Sid

Not enough smiling by Harrow

We already figured that out

12/22/2010 9:17:03 PM

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"^on the bright side, he leads the ACC in Assist : Turnover ratio"

yea he's actually a really good point guard and you see some semblance of an offense being run when he isn't chucking

if he can figure out how to score efficiently he might be even better than expected

12/22/2010 9:17:13 PM

Tracy taking himself out causes a chain reaction of lack of effort. The young guys look at the old guys to set the tone. If the old guy is sitting out even though he is medically cleared, that sets a tone.

It's like the opposite of when Rivers played with a torn ACL. You earn respect and influence others by taking on shit that others would not want to take on.

12/22/2010 9:20:20 PM

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"if he can figure out how to score efficiently he might be even better than expected"

i think he can score effeciently, he just needs to stop shooting until he gets some confidence. assist or drive/teardrop or fastbreak dunk/layup.

[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 9:23 PM. Reason : ^ you have no idea what's going on with tracy's injury. your ranting is quite ridiculous.]

12/22/2010 9:22:09 PM

^^I agree in a sense, but you also don't want to rush someone back from injury. Rivers played a playoff game with a torn ACL. You think he would've played a Week 4 game with that same injury?

ie, if the ACC tournament started tomorrow, I think Tracy would play

12/22/2010 9:23:14 PM

Coach sounds pissed in his post game.

12/22/2010 9:23:46 PM

he scared?

12/22/2010 9:24:04 PM

skokiaan has always been a retard, but he's taking it to new levels tonight.

12/22/2010 9:24:37 PM

i completely agree with that but tracy is going to suck when he comes back and would suck even more if he played now

howell could probably play on a messed up knee and not lose a whole lot of his game but tracy relies a lot on explosiveness and movement in the post

i actually didnt watch any of this game besides the last 2 minutes (I went out b/c I figured there wasn't any point to watching tonight - oops) but I'm guessing we went up by ~10 and got complacent like we usually do against these type of teams?

12/22/2010 9:25:42 PM

I just want to know when it's going to be acceptable to criticize Lowe, because y'all castigate anyone who does it under any circumstances now.

12/22/2010 9:29:55 PM

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"i think he can score effeciently, he just needs to stop shooting until he gets some confidence. assist or drive/teardrop or fastbreak dunk/layup."

a lot of his "creative" shots have rimmed out on him despite not being bad shots. this coupled with him adjusting to more athletic and bigger players on his more normal drives have knocked down his shooting % to an exaggeratedly low number

but the 3 point shooting problem is very real. he's not even close most of the time

12/22/2010 9:30:19 PM

^^ you can criticize him all you want. likewise, we can do the opposite.

[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 9:33 PM. Reason : that's weirdly worded, but you know what i mean.]

12/22/2010 9:32:03 PM

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"but the 3 point shooting problem is very real. he's not even close most of the time"

Scott Wood had some issues in the early going last year as well. I imagine Harrow is going to take some time to adjust his shot while going through a serious weight training plan.

12/22/2010 9:37:17 PM

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"a lot of his "creative" shots have rimmed out on him despite not being bad shots"

i'm fine with that, as long as he's getting it on the rim for a potential putback from howell/leslie/smith. but for now, he doesn't need to be taking many outside shots, he just doesn't seem ready. drive and dish or teardrop/easy layup.

12/22/2010 9:37:30 PM

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"typical NC State fan mentality get pissed off when we lose get pissed off when we win "

well since half of our wins this year have been ugly wins against pitiful teams, yeah i'm pissed off.

12/22/2010 9:54:32 PM

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"No complaining about tonight. Bottom line: we won. Doesn't matter how we did it, a win's a win."

Ernie, I think you're trying to troll me with this statement, but you're absolutely right. I don't care if we beat Duke by 2 or if we beat UNCG by 2, a win is a win. That doesn't mean we can't talk about the areas where the team needs improvement or didn't play particularly well in that game. I am happy with the win, I was there, I have a few thoughts about it.

1. Painter/Howell have made progress at the post positions since the last game. They went up stronger and finished better, but still missed too many layups/close shots.

2. Our offense seemed, to me, to be flat footed for less of the game. I saw our offense at least trying to make things happen, even if the possession sometimes ended in a turnover because of overly flashy play.

3. All of you harping on Scott Wood are idiots, he got more open looks this game than he probably has all season (listen to the commentary from the coaches/sports network after the game). He mentioned in his post game interview that, because of all the fouls, he had trouble getting into the rhythm of the game, and that caused him to have some trouble finding his shot. On plus sides, I saw him driving to the basket a little more today, and he did make the game winning basket, so there's that.

4. Lowe seems to really see and understand what's happening on the court. I've done more listening to him over the last couple days (I've wanted to, and just happened to have the opportunity) and he really offers some good insight (not of the outside sales variety).

5. Our team showed improvement on the boards. We out-rebounded Delaware St more definitively (at least in the first half than) I have noticed us do against a team al year (I haven't seen every game though, so give me some slack if I'm wrong). I really liked the effort we were getting under the boards.

6. Our push down the court doesn't seem as fast as it needs to be to live up to Lowe's push style game plan. We'd have opportunities for fast breaks on several occasions or have a couple players beat and instead of pushing and finishing we'd slow it down and pull it out. Hopefully some playing time together will begin to make them more aware of that game.

7. The student section fuckin sucks. They were totally quiet for the first 3/4 of that game. It was infuriating.

DISCLAIMER: I think that people who demand results and what people to succeed or GTFO have a decent reason to be upset with Lowe's performance over four years. However, he is pulling in great talent, and I like where this team could possibly go if he can pull it together. I am on board with keeping him for awhile longer, it's not like I haven't suffered through NCSU suckage for most of my life.

Just my .00000002 millions worth.

12/22/2010 9:59:56 PM

7a) school isn't in session. what do you expect?

12/22/2010 10:05:09 PM

I'm pissed off they won. I called the other way around.

Fucker can't coach.

12/22/2010 10:05:20 PM

2 quotes 1 guy

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"What do you mean how he does it? We don't care how he does it, we want results."

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"That doesn't mean we can't talk about the areas where the team needs improvement or didn't play particularly well in that game."

[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 10:29 PM. Reason : Yeah, I remember grinding my feet into Eddie's couch]

12/22/2010 10:28:33 PM

from Pack Pride:

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"I would like to apologize to Costner, McCauley, and Fells. I thought you were the problem, but I was wrong."

12/22/2010 10:48:55 PM

does Debbie Yow know Geno Auriemma (sp?)?

[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 10:56 PM. Reason : dadfasdfsag]

12/22/2010 10:56:05 PM

Yeah I'm glad Sid called us haters out he really backed up that talk tonight.

12/22/2010 11:30:34 PM

I met a girl from Philadelphia tonight and told her I went to NC State. She was like "aren't you guys good in basketball?"

I laughed and laughed.

12/22/2010 11:39:37 PM