im pretty sure towards the end of the season sidney told him to stop

5/1/2010 4:48:54 PM

howell should not be shooting threes. period.


evidently it was an x-factor in his game during high school, but we're not in Kansas anymore

5/1/2010 4:59:05 PM

it's true, richard howell is no jordan collins

5/1/2010 4:59:27 PM

i think he hit his first couple 3's of the year, or at least a decent percentage in his first 5 or 6 tries

which only got his confidence up and probably had to do with him jacking up some of the more ill advised ones later in the year

5/1/2010 5:03:58 PM

I think its worth it even if he misses them that we pretend hes a threat from out there so smith can't get big to big doubles.

5/1/2010 5:21:52 PM

oh yea other teams will fall for that one for sure

5/1/2010 5:31:35 PM

with harrow and leslie next year...who is the other team going to double off of? this recruiting class is going to open up EVERY other position. you cant leave harrow, brown, leslie, howell, javi or wood open to double team tracy.

and especially not TBDV

[Edited on May 1, 2010 at 7:32 PM. Reason : TBDV]

5/1/2010 7:32:02 PM

I really think you guys have memory problems if you doubt that Harrow is going to take the starting job away from Javi. Javi is slow, can't defend other guards, and is apparently allergic to driving the ball. Barring significant offseason improvement, I don't see how Harrow doesn't take the starting spot by January at the latest.

5/1/2010 7:44:09 PM

i have faith in sidney. if harrow is better, he will start. i think that there will be a big learning curve for playing college ball, so it may be that javi starts for the first 10 or so games, but once we start getting into acc play, harrow gets the start. no matter what, we will have an exceptional guard, and a good backup.

5/1/2010 7:46:40 PM

The three point shot is something that Howell will have in his arsenal his Junior/Senior year probably.

5/1/2010 9:36:44 PM

Quote :

"and a good backup"

who is this mystery recruit we are getting who is going to be the good backup?

5/1/2010 9:55:53 PM

when javi played well he was considered one of the better pgs in the acc. When on he can be amazing (see arizona and duke games). he was just too inconsistent. Coming off the bench is good for that type of player because if hes off we can shut him down and if he's on we can ride him out.

He will make a GREAT backup pg.

5/1/2010 9:58:24 PM

brown will also see quite a bit of time at point

5/1/2010 10:12:12 PM

^ really? Unless Javi or Ryan gets injured I think they'll be able to hold it down.

5/1/2010 11:31:37 PM

yes really
thats one of Zo's strengths...he can play point with ease

5/2/2010 2:32:43 AM

But we have 2 decent to good PG's and zero decent to good SG's. I can't forsee many situations where Brown should be playing PG when we have Javi and Ryan both on the bench.

Maybe if we're trying to go big and we put wood at sg I guess.

5/2/2010 2:46:35 AM

if thats the case i rather have brown play point and javi play the degand.

5/2/2010 3:33:28 AM

we're a lot deeper at the 1 than we are at the 2 or 3. brown shouldn't be playing much point if ryan or javi are available.

5/2/2010 3:38:23 AM

maybe we shouldn't be so quick to pigeonhole players at one position... if we have two of javi, lo, & ryan in at once, any of the three could potentially bring the ball up the floor, right?

5/2/2010 12:47:45 PM

Quote :

"when javi played well he was considered one of the better pgs in the acc. When on he can be amazing (see arizona and duke games)."

Javi was not amazing in the Arizona game, he turned it on at the end. While I admire that, it would've been a lot nicer if he'd put points up throughout the entire game.

He's just way too inconsistent to be good.

5/2/2010 1:40:22 PM

Quote :

"when javi played well he was considered one of the better pgs in the acc"

ROFLMAOHAHAHAHAHAHA

5/2/2010 2:11:49 PM

i, too, would like to add a big, fat ROFLMAOHAHAHAHAHAHA

5/2/2010 2:18:34 PM

since I'm sure nobody reads the Fayetteville Observer:

Baby steps, Wolfpack fans

Quote :

""The time has come," the screen reads, "for three young men to take a fallen dynasty and return it to its former glory." If this is the sneak preview, then it's a movie you must see. Just don't be shocked if the ending isn't as happy as advertised."

http://fayobserver.com/Articles/2010/05/02/995435.aspx

5/2/2010 11:51:20 PM

^

Quote :

"Man, the Internet is awesome. Leslie, a homegrown 2010 McDonald's All-American, gives his oral commitment one day and the next minute we've got sensational promo footage spreading the fever."

The next minute????


The vid was made 2 and a half months before CJ committed

5/3/2010 12:03:33 AM

Quote :

"ust don't be shocked if the ending isn't as happy as advertised."

If we finish top 5 in the ACC, that's a happy ending considering the past years.

Hopefully, we are past the age of unrealistic expectations. Let's just be glad when these guys don't finish at the bottom and they win some big games.

5/3/2010 12:25:33 AM

I hope we can finish in the top 4 b/c I think Lowe would have a more realistic shot at winning the ACC tourney if his team didn't have tired legs from playing 4 games in 4 days, provided they got to the championship. He's shown that he can coach pretty well in tournament play. We need to get the bye that the top 4 teams get.

5/3/2010 1:04:25 AM

^^the writer agrees with you and i agree with both of you, pretty sure if were gonna think acc championship we'll need to keep this squad together at least two years

[Edited on May 3, 2010 at 1:06 AM. Reason : .]

5/3/2010 1:06:24 AM

We will never be past the age of unrealistic expectations.

This is NC State. Its who we are. Its what we do.

5/3/2010 3:22:48 AM

So CJL's signing day is set on Tuesday? What time? I will go.

5/3/2010 8:01:47 AM

^^you need to rephrase that to being favored to win an acc championship. any decent team can fall into an acc championship any given year. Hell, we almost won an acc championship in sid's first year.

5/3/2010 10:38:55 AM

Quote :

"since I'm sure nobody reads the Fayetteville Observer: Baby steps, Wolfpack fans Quote : ""The time has come," the screen reads, "for three young men to take a fallen dynasty and return it to its former glory." If this is the sneak preview, then it's a movie you must see. Just don't be shocked if the ending isn't as happy as advertised." http://fayobserver.com/Articles/2010/05/02/995435.aspx"

While I don't necessarily disagree with him about tempering expectations, Dan Wiederer was just itching to write an article to put down State somehow... I live in Fayetteville so I see the paper's bullshit on a regular basis. And this isn't a State conspiracy or anything, you rarely see full page spreads about Duke but we had a week-long look at UNC basketball history earlier this year. Basically, Wiederer is a tool.. I mean, look at his picture on the front page on his personal website

http://www.danwiederer.com/

5/3/2010 11:04:21 AM

more like dan weinerer, amirite?

5/3/2010 11:10:24 AM

I mean

Look at his work

http://www.danwiederer.com/clips.html

UNC UNC UNC UNC UNC UNC lowe sucks UNC UNC UNC UNC

5/3/2010 11:17:44 AM

he and Gregg Doyle should just go ahead and bwn

5/3/2010 11:56:00 AM

Ok, let's play a recruiting game:

Harrow: Most electrifying PG since ____________.
Best scoring PG since ____________.

Brown: Most complete combo guard since ____________.

Leslie: Most athletic player since ___________.
Most versatile player since ____________.

5/3/2010 1:32:23 PM

Harrow: Most electrifying PG since ever. Right?

5/3/2010 1:34:14 PM

Okay, who do we realistically stand a chance at landing for the 2011 class? I'm honestly getting a little nervous because we've landed no one and I haven't heard much talk about any 2011 recruits considering us. I think we'd need to land a PF/C and a PG to add depth at those positions since we'll be losing Smith and Javi. I just don't want a repeat of the CJ Williams/Mays class. That class hasn't produced and we can't afford to have classes that consist of nothing but mediocre 3* recruits if we want to be competitive in the ACC.

5/3/2010 2:18:16 PM

^chill the fuck out, it's still early...I'd say we have a realistic chance of landing Tyler Harris who is only a 2 star atm but has offers from UCONN, Tennessee and WVU, as well Chris Wilson out of Terry Sandford HS. Also may be in the mix for Rodney Hood, Quinn Cook, Deuce Bellow and Quincy Miller but those are probably longshots. Our 2010 class is now #5 on Scout:
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=14&cfg=bb&yr=2010

[Edited on May 3, 2010 at 2:40 PM. Reason : .]

5/3/2010 2:30:29 PM

From ESPN College Basketball Rumor Central today.

Quote :

"Can Lowe Build a Contender? My, how quickly things change in Raleigh. Shortly after C.J. Leslie's announcement that he is headed to N.C. State, Tracy Smith declared himself eligible for the NBA draft. Regardless, it throws a temporary monkey wrench into this fantasy lineup for the Wolfpack: Leslie, Smith, Ryan Harrow, Javier Gonzalez and Scott Wood. The Pack's other inside options, 7-foot-1 Aussie Jordan Vandenberg and fellow rising soph DeShawn Painter, are decidedly not ready for prime time. NC State fans had better hope Smith gets some notes for improvement and then high-tails it back to college. "Now comes the hard part for Lowe and his staff - finding a way to mesh all that talent into a cohesive unit capable of winning games and getting back to the NCAA tournament for the first time since 2006." reported a recent article on ACC Insider. Can Lowe win in the ACC with Smith missing from that starting five? One would think that, even without him, the lineup is good enough for an NCAA tournament bid. As Paul Hewitt can tell you, however, a highly-anticipated recruiting class does not mean an easy stroll through Selection Sunday. Landing Leslie means that the Wolfpack should immediately be considered a contender in the ACC next season (and will likely be ranked in the top half of the conference in most preseason publications). Doug Gottlieb Smith unlikely to bolt early. "Tracy Smith, Jr., NC State: He had a good, solid year, but he is no J.J. Hickson. Plus, it seems as though next season could be the start of something special in Raleigh. Smith's mother and Sidney Lowe have given an indication he'll be back. Good decision.""

5/3/2010 2:38:43 PM

He's just going through the routine because he can and to get some pro advice one what he needs to work on. He'll be back.

5/3/2010 2:41:05 PM

^^ i can't believe people pay for that.

[Edited on May 3, 2010 at 2:51 PM. Reason : oh is that not an insider article? either way, i can't believe espn publishes that.]

5/3/2010 2:49:34 PM

It's amazing how little research ESPN does

5/3/2010 2:50:10 PM

I just read the title and copied it over. Didn't think it was mostly about the Tracy Smith/NBA thing. Disappointing read.

[Edited on May 3, 2010 at 2:54 PM. Reason : .]

5/3/2010 2:50:51 PM

jesus espn, not only is this news old, its already been dealt with

5/3/2010 3:13:07 PM

CJL press conf:
http://www.highschoolot.com/root/video/7532547/

5/3/2010 3:16:16 PM

which one of you fags made this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6I4PmaxUM0

[edit ok its old, nm]

[Edited on May 3, 2010 at 3:20 PM. Reason : d]

5/3/2010 3:18:10 PM

Quote :

"^chill the fuck out, it's still early...I'd say we have a realistic chance of landing Tyler Harris who is only a 2 star atm but has offers from UCONN, Tennessee and WVU, as well Chris Wilson out of Terry Sandford HS. Also may be in the mix for Rodney Hood, Quinn Cook, Deuce Bellow and Quincy Miller but those are probably longshots. Our 2010 class is now #5 on Scout: http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=14&cfg=bb&yr=2010"

How about YOU chill the fuck out? You could have left that little preface of your entire post, you ass.

Not to mention, Tyler Harris is supposedly planning to reclassify for 2012 and Chris Wilson is a 3* no-name, not exactly an allstar. And you admit yourself that we are longshots for Hood, Cook, Bellow, and Miller. Then you finish up your marvelous post by telling me our 2010 class is #5 on Scout? No shit, welcome to 6 pages ago, I asked about 2011.

[Edited on May 3, 2010 at 3:48 PM. Reason : ]

5/3/2010 3:34:42 PM

I guess this is why we haven't heard from Mabry

http://goo.gl/9dQq

5/3/2010 3:42:41 PM

^^^woah check out that ass on the first video on the right side

5/3/2010 3:43:07 PM

^ i, too, noticed that.

5/3/2010 3:46:44 PM