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SALISBURY BOY REPORTED TO ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE, NO SURPRISE HE DOESN'T LIKE THEM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salisburyboy
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On February 27, 2006 salisburyboy was reported to the Anti-Defamation League for posts he made between February 22, 2006 and February 27, 2006. The complaint claimed that salisburyboy, "advocates anti-semitism, and any contunued attempt to challenge or correct him results in trouble."" |
4/25/2006 1:07:07 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
MUST SEE DOCUMENTARY FILM EXPOSING THE TRUTH ABOUT 9/11: 9/11: The Road To Tyranny by Alex Jones
In the minds of many, this is the definitive documentary film exposing the truth about 9/11. In my opinion, it is one of the most powerful and important films ever made. It is absolutely a must see. It begins by documenting the historical examples of government-sponsored terror, including a powerful expose of the truth about the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. It then goes on to discuss 9/11 and the elite’s plans to implement a totalitarian police state in the United States.
Here's a website where you can download 9/11: The Road To Tyranny: http://www.lastingnetworks.com/alex/
The first 10-15 minutes of the film consists of Jones introducing the topic and is a little tedious to get through. But after that, the film really picks up as it goes into the evidence on Oklahoma City. So just be sure to get through that opening part because the rest of the film is outstanding. 4/25/2006 1:07:11 PM |
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JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
OMG IT'S TRUE, HE KNOWS STUFF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
Quote : | "Salisburyboy figured it out." |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_in_the_Israeli-Palestinian_conflict
Quote : | "While the commander didn't believe it, Salisburyboy knew the truth." |
4/25/2006 1:12:59 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Salisburyboy, you've already pushed Alex Jones' video many times.
Why don't you do something original, like, oh I don't know, discuss your ideas? 4/25/2006 1:14:02 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
ive even also posted that i copied it from the old thread 4/25/2006 1:15:41 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
ANOTHER IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE ADL'S ABE FOXMAN: "ANTI-SEMITISM" IS EVERYWHERE AND IS SPREADING FAST
http://www.adl.org/anti_semitism/speech.asp
Quote : | "New Excuses, Old Hatred: Worldwide Anti-Semitism In Wake Of 9/11
by Abraham H. Foxman National Director of the Anti-Defamation League
This is an assessment of the world scene as it relates to the Jewish people, which I believed would never have to be pronounced after the Holocaust.
[...]
I have said that my greatest nightmare is that one day I would wake up and something terrible would happen in America and we, the Jewish people, Jews and Israel, will be blamed. It happened." |
OMG! It's the "Holocaust" all over again!
See how they use the "Holocaust" story to try to make themselves completely IMMUNE from any criticism?
Quote : | "Times are different we are told. The world is a different world. We communicate globally. We know each other better. Maybe. But history has taught us that in times of great stress, of great instability, and of anxiety and unpredictability, there is one thing that is predictable - anti-Semitism." |
Yeah, people don't like the "Jews." Wonder why that is? Hmmmmm. Could it be because of the things they have done. Nah, that's too simple. It's due to this inexplicable "anti-Semitic hatred" that just pops up out of the blue all througout history.
Quote : | "Today we live in a different age. We live in what some call the global village. We live in the midst of a great technological revolution. On one hand it provides knowledge, information, education and enlightenment. On the other it provides a cheap vehicle, a superhighway for hate. " |
Yes, we need to censor the internet to get rid of all those "hateful" websites that are telling the truth about 9/11 and Zionism. Let's accuse them of "hate crimes" and imprison them for questioning the "Holocaust" story. That ought to shut them up.
Quote : | "First, let me say anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism, period. There is no debate about that. " |
If you oppose the goals of Zionism, you're a "Jew hater" too?! Wow.
"ANTI-SEMITISM" IS EVERYWHERE! WE MUST DO MORE TO COMBAT THIS DANGEROUS "ANTI-SEMITISM." IF YOU SEE ANYONE CRITICIZING ZIONISM OR EXPOSING THE MOSSAD/ISRAELI ROLE IN 9/11, REPORT THEM TO THE ADL IMMEDIATELY!
SHALOM4/25/2006 1:54:36 PM |
Waluigi All American 2384 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ANOTHER IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE ADL'S ABE FOXMAN" |
Is that anything like the message from our A.U.T.H.O.R.I.T.I.E.S.???4/25/2006 2:06:32 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That speech is 4 years old. You really are digging deep to smear jews, aren't you? Didn't you get pissy at me for allegedly trying to divert attention away from 9/11? Yet it is permissable for you to go off on your little tangents and dig up old speeches solely to serve your hatred of the jewish people and to attempt to arouse anti-semitic sentiment.
Quote : | "See how they use the "Holocaust" story to try to make themselves completely IMMUNE from any criticism?" |
How are they using that to combat criticism in this case?
Quote : | "Could it be because of the things they have done. Nah, that's too simple. It's due to this inexplicable "anti-Semitic hatred" that just pops up out of the blue all througout history." |
What have the jews done to you?
Quote : | "Yes, we need to censor the internet to get rid of all those "hateful" websites that are telling the truth about 9/11 and Zionism. Let's accuse them of "hate crimes" and imprison them for questioning the "Holocaust" story. That ought to shut them up." |
Where does it even say that? Thats classic misrepresentation, little buddy.
Keep running from legitimate questions, instead hoping that a flurry of cut and paste will make people forget that you can't answer a few simple questions...
Could you please address these questions? I'm not trying to redirect or distract here. I'm genuinely curious. You made statements regarding all of these questions in this very thread, I would just like you to explain them before moving on. I questioned these claims when they were originally made, but you ignored me. Why won't you answer them?
Why didn't they build a pipeline in 1998? Why did they blow up their own african embassies and then launch a missile attack on Afghanistan? They were set to build a natural gas pipeline with the Taliban then. Why mess that up for no reason?
You don't believe that Afghanistan was invaded for the sake of a pipeline? Then why are you defending that theory so stubbornly?
You just said that Afghanistan was invaded so that a pipeline could be built. Now you're saying that the zionists wanted to prevent the building of a pipeline - just like how Iraq was invaded to secure the oil supply even though the zionists don't care about the oil supply. How do you reconcile all of the conflicting information that you spout off on here?
By the way, how did the zionists cause the US Civil War and the Revolutionary War?
I would also like to see some proof that Pearl Harbor was caused by the evil edomite zionists.
You have provided absolutely no evidence at all that the Rothschilds are the zionists at the top running world events. They were a prominent family that supported the creation of a jewish state, that is all. Please provide some evidence other than "Here are some rich jews!"
So why should anyone believe your rantings anyway You have admitted that you hate jews. As such, you are far from an impartial source when you blame jews for every problem in the world.
Why is it spamming if I repeat unanswered questions, but it's ok for you to repost the same article in the same thread five times?4/25/2006 2:21:47 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "dig up old speeches solely to serve your hatred of the jewish people and to attempt to arouse anti-semitic sentiment." |
OMG! Are you accusing me of being a {gasp} "anti-Semite"? Aggghhh!
Quote : | "Keep running from legitimate questions, instead hoping that a flurry of cut and paste will make people forget that you can't answer a few simple questions..." |
haha
keep trolling Mr. Joshua. I don't care if you bttt the thread with that post over and over4/25/2006 2:34:40 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Why is it spamming if I repeat unanswered questions, but it's ok for you to repost the same article in the same thread five times? 4/25/2006 2:35:21 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That speech is 4 years old. You really are digging deep to smear jews, aren't you? Didn't you get pissy at me for allegedly trying to divert attention away from 9/11? Yet it is permissable for you to go off on your little tangents and dig up old speeches solely to serve your hatred of the jewish people and to attempt to arouse anti-semitic sentiment.
" |
hey salis....dont ever accuse anyone of trying to divert or change the subject again.4/25/2006 2:37:28 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hey salis....dont ever accuse anyone of trying to divert or change the subject again." |
How is talking about a speech by ADL director Abe Foxman "changing the subject", when the ADL was a subject of discussion prior to that post?4/25/2006 2:47:07 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
He saw an opportunity to slander jews and he jumped on it.
Nothing new.
I was really hoping for an answer to this one:
Quote : | "What have the jews done to you?" |
4/25/2006 2:50:14 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
How did I "slander" jews?4/25/2006 2:59:15 PM |
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4/25/2006 3:01:05 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How did I "slander" jews?" |
Geez, I don't know, the way that you paint them as evil whenever you mention them.4/25/2006 3:06:15 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Geez, I don't know, the way that you paint them as evil whenever you mention them." |
"Slander" is when you make false statements against someone...not when you merely express dislike for them.
Now, can you find any false statement I made to supposedly "slander the Jews"?4/25/2006 3:13:23 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
for starters read the title of this thread 4/25/2006 3:16:56 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "for starters read the title of this thread" |
4/25/2006 3:25:56 PM |
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China = Zionists 4/25/2006 3:27:22 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
How is it a false statement to say that 9/11 was orchestrated or carried out by Zionists when you have all this evidence of Mossad and Israeli involvement?
What about the 5 Mossad agents who were arrested after filming and celebrating the WTC attack? What about the approximately 200 Israeli spies who were detained around 9/11, gathering intelligence on government buildings, the Sears Tower, and nuclear power plants? And what about the all the evidence that there were Israeli spies "trailing" (ie, framing) the named "hijackers"?
The 9/11 attacks were another Zionist false flag operation. Carried out, of course, with the cooperation of high-level people in the U.S. Government. But we now know, based on confirmation from two of America's most renowned political scholars, that the U.S. Government (including the executive branch and Congress) is controlled by a Zionist/Israeli cabal or "lobby." That's what the evidence shows. There's nothing "slanderous" about it. 4/25/2006 3:35:53 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
you're the punchline of a joke nobody is telling 4/25/2006 3:40:30 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
#1 all your evidence is fucking bullshit #2 shut the fuck up #3 i hope you die a horrible and painful death you fucking piece of shit.
every day i see this thread here i thank god that 99.9% of americans recognize you and those you get your "facts" from are full of shit. 4/25/2006 3:41:16 PM |
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Quote : | "#1 all your evidence is fucking bullshit #2 shut the fuck up #3 i hope you die a horrible and painful death you fucking piece of shit.
every day i see this thread here i thank god that 99.9% of americans recognize you and those you get your "facts" from are full of shit." |
You really think that's going to hurt my feelings or deter me? Such hatred coming from my opponents only emboldens and fuels me. So thanks.
INTERESTING ARTICLE ON THE 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT; AUTHOR TRIES TO RIDICULE MOVEMENT, BUT ACKNOWLEDGES THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED AND SUGGESTS WE WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED; ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THE MOVEMENT IS GROWING TOO LARGE FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA TO IGNORE
http://newyorkmetro.com/news/features/16464/index.html
Quote : | "The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll
A new generation of conspiracy theorists is at work on a secret history of New York’s most terrible day.
March 27, 2006 issue of New York Magazine By Mark Jacobson
They keep telling us 9/11 changed everything. But even in this Photoshopped age of unreliable narrators, much remains the same. The assassination of President John Kennedy, the Crime of the Last Century, occurred in plain sight, in front of thousands—yet exactly what happened remains in dispute. The Warren Commission found that Lee Harvey Oswald, fellow traveler of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, shot Kennedy with a cheap Mannlicher-Carcano rifle from a sixth-floor window of the Texas School Book Depository. The commission found that Oswald, who two days later would be murdered by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, acted alone.
Yet, as with so many such events, there is the sanctioned history and the secret history—players hidden from view. In the Kennedy murder, the involvement of shadowy organizations like the Mafia and the CIA came into question. This way of thinking came to challenge the official narrative put forth by the Warren Commission. It is not exactly clear when the grassy knoll supplanted the sixth-floor window in the popular mind-set. But now, four decades after Dallas, it is difficult to find anyone who believes Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman.
But if Oswald didn’t kill the president, who did? So 11/22 remains an open case, an open wound.
Now here we are again, contemplating the seemingly unthinkable events of September 11. An official explanation has been offered up: The nation was attacked by the forces of radical Islam led by Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda jihadists. Again, this narrative has been accepted by many.
But not all." |
4/25/2006 4:01:43 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
HOLY SHIT MARK JACOBSON?
TOYOTA OF DURHAM KNOWS WHATS UP YO 4/25/2006 4:06:14 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How is talking about a speech by ADL director Abe Foxman "changing the subject", when the ADL was a subject of discussion prior to that post?" |
its only a topic because you brought it up. it has NOTHING to do with this subject of this thread. quit spamming because you cant answer question?
where is my conclusive, undeniable proof that jews planned 9/11??4/25/2006 4:10:03 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the U.S. Government (including the executive branch and Congress) is controlled by a Zionist/Israeli cabal or "lobby."" |
Please find out what "lobby" means and stop trying to apply it to the notion that a bunch of old jews, headed by the Rothschilds, are out to enslave us all under a global police state solely because Esau sold his birthright and they want it back.
Quote : | "INTERESTING ARTICLE ON THE 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT; AUTHOR TRIES TO RIDICULE MOVEMENT" |
Where does he ridicule anyone? Once again, you become hostile towards anyone who thinks differently than you. Yet you still have the audacity and the arrogance to call everyone who doesn't drink your Kool Aid "close-minded".
Keep running from legitimate questions for another 10 pages, instead hoping that a flurry of cut and paste will make people forget that you can't answer a few simple questions...
Could you please address these questions? I'm not trying to redirect or distract here. I'm genuinely curious. You made statements regarding all of these questions in this very thread, I would just like you to explain them before moving on. I questioned these claims when they were originally made, but you ignored me. Why won't you answer them?
Why didn't they build a pipeline in 1998? Why did they blow up their own african embassies and then launch a missile attack on Afghanistan? They were set to build a natural gas pipeline with the Taliban then. Why mess that up for no reason?
You don't believe that Afghanistan was invaded for the sake of a pipeline? Then why are you defending that theory so stubbornly?
You just said that Afghanistan was invaded so that a pipeline could be built. Now you're saying that the zionists wanted to prevent the building of a pipeline - just like how Iraq was invaded to secure the oil supply even though the zionists don't care about the oil supply. How do you reconcile all of the conflicting information that you spout off on here?
By the way, how did the zionists cause the US Civil War and the Revolutionary War?
I would also like to see some proof that Pearl Harbor was caused by the evil edomite zionists.
You have provided absolutely no evidence at all that the Rothschilds are the zionists at the top running world events. They were a prominent family that supported the creation of a jewish state, that is all. Please provide some evidence other than "Here are some rich jews!"
So why should anyone believe your rantings anyway You have admitted that you hate jews. As such, you are far from an impartial source when you blame jews for every problem in the world.
Why is it spamming if I repeat unanswered questions, but it's ok for you to repost the same article in the same thread five times?4/25/2006 4:20:19 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You really think that's going to hurt my feelings or deter me? Such hatred coming from my opponents only emboldens and fuels me. So thanks." |
no one gives a shit about your FEELINGS. we respond to you because views like yours are capable of killing more people than Al Qaeda or you "Zionist Conspiracy"4/25/2006 4:31:19 PM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
This thread makes me want to get some Hebrew National hot dogs...
I hope I'm not supporting the NWO
[Edited on April 25, 2006 at 4:43 PM. Reason : ] 4/25/2006 4:42:11 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
weapons of mass distraction 4/25/2006 4:49:11 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
and that makes it different from anything you have posted how? 4/25/2006 4:50:54 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
BLINDED BY THE LIGHT 4/25/2006 4:50:59 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
WRAPPED UP LIKE A DOUCHE SALISBURY IN THE NIGHT
*yes i know it's revved up like a deuce, but since sals is a douche i liked those lyrics better 4/25/2006 4:52:19 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
In the original Springsteen version it was "cut loose like a deuce"
Springsteen....Springstein?
Edomite? 4/25/2006 5:44:57 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
4/25/2006 5:49:31 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
"Baby we were born to run"
Springsteen reveals his opinion that edomite "jews" were born to run the world. 4/25/2006 5:56:42 PM |
tennwa33 All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
Hey Salisburyboy, can you go into a little more detail about this?
Quote : | "The 9/11 attacks were another Zionist false flag operation. Carried out, of course, with the cooperation of high-level people in the U.S. Government. But we now know, based on confirmation from two of America's most renowned political scholars, that the U.S. Government (including the executive branch and Congress) is controlled by a Zionist/Israeli cabal or "lobby." That's what the evidence shows. There's nothing "slanderous" about it." |
4/25/2006 10:05:05 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
CAN HE EVER! 4/25/2006 10:16:21 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
he has.
they arent the best political scholars in the nation (however the fuck you would measure that). their "research" is nothing new. its been floating around the hitler youth movement for years. its already been shown to be false and contradictory(sp?) 4/25/2006 10:24:40 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hey Salisburyboy, can you go into a little more detail about this?" |
ZIONIST POWER OVER U.S. GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA CONFIRMED BY RENOWNED AMERICAN SCHOLARS
http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060320-124726-1902r
(bypass compulsory registration here: http://www.bugmenot.com/)
Quote : | "Pro-Israel lobby in U.S. under attack
WASHINGTON, March 20 (UPI) -- Two of America's top scholars have published a searing attack on the role and power of Washington's pro-Israel lobby in a British journal, warning that its "decisive" role in fomenting the Iraq war is now being repeated with the threat of action against Iran. And they say that the Lobby is so strong that they doubt their article would be accepted in any U.S.-based publication.
Professor John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago, author of "The Tragedy of Great Power Politics" and Professor Stephen Walt of Harvard's Kenney School, and author of "Taming American Power: The Global Response to U.S. Primacy," are leading figures American in academic life.
They claim that the Israel lobby has distorted American policy and operates against American interests, that it has organized the funneling of more than $140 billion dollars to Israel and "has a stranglehold" on the U.S. Congress, and its ability to raise large campaign funds gives its vast influence over Republican and Democratic administrations, while its role in Washington think tanks on the Middle East dominates the policy debate.
And they say that the Lobby works ruthlessly to suppress questioning of its role, to blacken its critics and to crush serious debate about the wisdom of supporting Israel in U.S. public life.
"Silencing skeptics by organizing blacklists and boycotts -- or by suggesting that critics are anti-Semites -- violates the principle of open debate on which democracy depends," Walt and Mearsheimer write.
"The inability of Congress to conduct a genuine debate on these important issues paralyses the entire process of democratic deliberation. Israel's backers should be free to make their case and to challenge those who disagree with them, but efforts to stifle debate by intimidation must be roundly condemned," they add, in the 12,800-word article published in the latest issue of The London Review of Books.
The article focuses strongly on the role of the "neo-conservatives" within the Bush administration in driving the decision to launch the war on Iraq.
"The main driving force behind the war was a small band of neo-conservatives, many with ties to the Likud," Mearsheimer and Walt argue." Given the neo-conservatives' devotion to Israel, their obsession with Iraq, and their influence in the Bush administration, it isn't surprising that many Americans suspected that the war was designed to further Israeli interests."
"The neo-conservatives had been determined to topple Saddam even before Bush became president. They caused a stir early in 1998 by publishing two open letters to Clinton, calling for Saddam's removal from power. The signatories, many of whom had close ties to pro-Israel groups like JINSA (Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs) or WINEP (Washington Institute for Near Eastern Policy), and who included Elliot Abrams, John Bolton, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Bernard Lewis, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz, had little trouble persuading the Clinton administration to adopt the general goal of ousting Saddam. But they were unable to sell a war to achieve that objective. They were no more able to generate enthusiasm for invading Iraq in the early months of the Bush administration. They needed help to achieve their aim. That help arrived with 9/11. Specifically, the events of that day led Bush and Cheney to reverse course and become strong proponents of a preventive war," Walt and Mearsheimer write.
The article, which is already stirring furious debate in U.S. academic and intellectual circles, also explores the historical role of the Lobby.
"For the past several decades, and especially since the Six-Day War in 1967, the centerpiece of US Middle Eastern policy has been its relationship with Israel," the article says." |
The "Israeli Lobby" has a "stranglehold on Congress" and "vast influence over Republican and Democratic administrations"? Fanatical pro-Israel Jewish neo-conservatives were the "driving force" behind the Iraq War? They work "ruthlessly" to suppress criticism and debate of Zionist/Israeli influence, including smearing critics with charges of "anti-Semitism"? And they have power over the press as to prevent publication of this article (and other similar criticism)?
I guess those "anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists" who allege powerful Zionist influence on our government and media may be RIGHT after all!
Full paper, "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" from London Review of Books website: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
Link to paper in pdf format from Harvard's website: http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-0114/26/2006 8:06:55 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
no, no they're not. they're fucking idiots just like you. 4/26/2006 8:07:43 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no, no they're not. they're fucking idiots just like you." |
Steven Walt is the Academic Dean of Harvard's Kennedy School of Government (I heard he may no longer be dean, but Harvard's site still says he is the dean):
http://ksgfaculty.harvard.edu/Stephen_Walt
John Mearsheimer is a distinguished professor in the Department of Political Science at the University of Chicago, and a former Chairman of the Department .
http://political-science.uchicago.edu/faculty/mearsheimer.html
Harvard and the University of Chicago are two of the preeminent universities in the nation (and the entire world). Both of these men are quite prominent in the arena of American academia and scholarship in the area of political science (if not at the very pinnacle).
[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 8:30 AM. Reason : ```]4/26/2006 8:24:52 AM |
MalikDaMan All American 1445 Posts user info edit post |
So everything you say three times is true? 4/26/2006 9:36:27 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "their "research" is nothing new. its been floating around the hitler youth movement for years." |
blatant pathetic smear tactics
Quote : | "its already been shown to be false and contradictory(sp?)" |
No such thing has been shown. Can you even refer to one thing in their paper that is "false"? It's just been alleged by the likes of Alan Dershowitz that the information is "false." Dershowitz and the other critics have provided no real evidence disproving the arguments of Walt and Mearsheimer. Basically, all they've offered is desperate smear by association arguments, such as those claiming that just because Zionist-controlled false opposition groups like neo-Nazis agree with Walt and Mearsheimer or that they have said similar things, therefore Walt and Mearsheimer's paper must be "wrong."4/26/2006 9:53:35 AM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
hey you know what a lobby is right? 4/26/2006 10:14:22 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hey you know what a lobby is right?" |
So you think playing semantics is going to help your desperate cause? A "lobby" is nothing more than a group of people exerting influence over a government. Walt and Mearsheimer go the "safe" route and only call this group of Zionists influencing the government a "lobby." But you could also call it a "cabal" or "gang." These pro-Israel Zionists not only "lobby" the government, but are also infiltrated into the government. I think it is more accurate to refer to this collective Zionist influence as a "cabal", because a "lobby" is thought of as a group totally apart from the government. But call it whatever you want. The bottom line is that this group of Zionist, pro-Israel Jews exert an enormous influence over our government, having a "stranglehold" on Congress and the executive branch of government.
Quote : | "Main Entry: faction Part of Speech: noun 1 Definition: group Synonyms: band, bloc, bunch, cabal, camp, caucus, cell, circle, clan, clique, club, coalition, combination, combine, combo, concern, conclave, confederacy, conspiracy, contingent, coterie, crew, crowd, design, division, entente, gang, guild, insiders, intrigue, junta, knot, lobby, machine, minority, mob, network, offshoot, outfit, partnership, party, pressure group, ring, schism, sect, section, sector, set, side, splinter group, team, unit, wing
http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=lobby" |
[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 10:43 AM. Reason : ```]4/26/2006 10:34:28 AM |
brianj320 All American 9166 Posts user info edit post |
READ THE FREAKIN PAPER FOR EVIDENCE!!! HE EXPLAINS IN IT!!
http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/research/working_papers/dershowitzreply.pdf
Quote : | "The working paper by Academic Dean and Professor Stephen Walt and Professor John Mearsheimer presents a conspiratorial view of history in which the Israel Lobby has a “stranglehold” on American foreign policy, the American media, think tanks and academia. In his response, Professor Alan Dershowitz demonstrates that the paper contains three types of major errors: quotations are wrenched out of context, important facts are misstated or omitted; and embarrassingly weak logic is employed. One of the authors of this paper has acknowledged that “none of the evidence represents original documentation or is derived from independent interviews.” In light of the paper’s errors, and its admitted lack of originality, Dershowitz asks why these professors would have chosen to publish a paper that does not meet their usual scholarly standards, especially given the risk – that should have been obvious to “realists” - that recycling these charges under their imprimatur of prominent authors would be featured, as they have been, on extremist websites. Dershowitz questions the authors claims that people who support Israel do not want “an open debate on issues involving Israel.”" |
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JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
ahahaha, you really used synonyms as your proof
oh man
thats classic
thats some yahwe bin yahwe shit right there 4/26/2006 10:53:17 AM |