jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Penalty. (12 men on field) on us. Clock is out- last play coming up. 9/1/2007 9:24:17 PM |
bigdave Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
figures 9/1/2007 9:24:36 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
9/1/2007 9:24:54 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
penalties 9/1/2007 9:24:54 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
INT.
Game over.
gg Pack on going from Duke to NCSU during halftime. 9/1/2007 9:25:11 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
isnt this the same way we lost to WF last year? 9/1/2007 9:25:38 PM |
bigdave Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
same old story, different coach. 9/1/2007 9:25:54 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
O'Brien needs to learn how to count
[Edited on September 1, 2007 at 9:26 PM. Reason : ] 9/1/2007 9:25:59 PM |
ben94gt All American 5084 Posts user info edit post |
son of a fucking whore 9/1/2007 9:26:05 PM |
fjjackso All American 14538 Posts user info edit post |
oh well, gg state 9/1/2007 9:26:42 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
WTF is wrong with our damn team? How can we continue to lose these games against teams with half the talent?? Fuck you Daniel Evans - I hope you never see the field again in your life. 9/1/2007 9:26:57 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
it's really shitty that we lost
but at least we looked a hell of a lot better in the 2nd half. Need to keep that up. 9/1/2007 9:27:24 PM |
Yoshiemaster Suspended 9388 Posts user info edit post |
hey now, if we play all our games like we did in the 2nd half, we'd have a good enough team to compete this year. 9/1/2007 9:27:31 PM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
we could have done that last drive better. quick outs 9/1/2007 9:27:59 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
this one's on the coaching staff 9/1/2007 9:27:59 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
there is nothing good about a fucking moral victory 9/1/2007 9:28:14 PM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
Even though I saw none of the game, it sounds from what you guys were posting that Beck has his shit together.......that's the positive Ill take going into the BC game next week!
......................... 9/1/2007 9:28:17 PM |
occamsrezr All American 6985 Posts user info edit post |
what the fuck is up with the rush up the middle with short time on the clock? 9/1/2007 9:28:31 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
Beck is our guy....we lost because Daniel Evans didn't know where his own endzone was.
Next week at BC should be interesting if this 2nd half team shows up. If the first half team shows up, we get blown away by 40+ pts. 9/1/2007 9:30:35 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
If we'd started Beck, we might've won. 9/1/2007 9:31:26 PM |
FuhCtious All American 11955 Posts user info edit post |
based on what i saw in that game, the difference was evans. he clearly didn't have what it takes, and he made very poor decisions. yes, the other guys stepped it up in the second half, but evans made a bunch of crucial mistakes that really cost us the game.
the first interception and the safety were the difference. either one of them not happening would have changed things completely. 9/1/2007 9:31:49 PM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
wait a second, I stopped paying attention at half time, then come back to check the score, and see that we gave up 25 pts in the first half, gave them NOTHING in the second, and brought the game back to within 2, and everybody's whining??? 9/1/2007 9:31:51 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
we still lost, dumbass 9/1/2007 9:33:04 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
lol 9/1/2007 9:34:43 PM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
The no punt on 4th and 6 was also questionable. 9/1/2007 9:34:44 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
if we started beck we might've would've won 9/1/2007 9:34:58 PM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
I'm guessing this will be like Lowe's first season -- a few bad losses but a strong finish. 9/1/2007 9:36:54 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
All the other teams that were ahead of us (or tied with us) on the current losing streaks list lost their games as well, so we're still tied for third:
#1 Duke: 21 #2 Florida International: 13 #3 NCSU: 8 #3 Illinois: 8 #3 Colorado St.: 8 9/1/2007 9:37:20 PM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
not good that the ACC has 2 teams on that list 9/1/2007 9:38:34 PM |
WtchyWmn All American 1551 Posts user info edit post |
what was the final? 9/1/2007 9:38:51 PM |
nonlogic All American 1252 Posts user info edit post |
25-23, UCF 9/1/2007 9:40:37 PM |
dhcpme All American 1429 Posts user info edit post |
UCF = 25
NCSU = 23
Final 9/1/2007 9:40:43 PM |
Yoshiemaster Suspended 9388 Posts user info edit post |
23-25 9/1/2007 9:41:10 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "based on what i saw in that game, the difference was evans. he clearly didn't have what it takes, and he made very poor decisions. yes, the other guys stepped it up in the second half, but evans made a bunch of crucial mistakes that really cost us the game.
the first interception and the safety were the difference. either one of them not happening would have changed things completely." |
The coaching when Evans was in was atrocious.9/1/2007 9:42:14 PM |
Yoshiemaster Suspended 9388 Posts user info edit post |
i'm happy with our team. this next week will be crucial for team development though. more focus on Beck, reviewing tapes and solving matchup/defense problems.... next week's game should be fun to watch. 9/1/2007 9:42:36 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
We're going to get rolled by BC. 9/1/2007 9:43:20 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
The coaching quarterbacking when Evans was in was atrocious. 9/1/2007 9:46:18 PM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
Once a QB learns to read the field quickly and hit those check downs, he moves up a tier in skill. Teams are going to respect Beck's long ball even though its not very accurate, so he has to take advantage of that.
App state was money today by hitting those short passes over the middle -- let their skill players run after the catch. Blackman, Brown, Bowens, Baker can do the same.
[Edited on September 1, 2007 at 9:50 PM. Reason : V yeah, those bootlegs were terrible. Not playing to ANY strength of our team.] 9/1/2007 9:48:43 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not going to dispute that, but the playcalling was hurting a lot.
Bootleg after bootleg after bootleg, every single one getting blown up.
[Edited on September 1, 2007 at 9:49 PM. Reason : .] 9/1/2007 9:48:47 PM |
SchndlrsFist All American 5528 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "wait a second, I stopped paying attention at half time, then come back to check the score, and see that we gave up 25 pts in the first half, gave them NOTHING in the second, and brought the game back to within 2, and everybody's whining???" |
Um, the game was against UCF not USC. A little whining is in order, I do believe.9/1/2007 10:00:48 PM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
^ i don't have a problem with the whining persay. I just was on here checking the game during the first half, and everyone was wondering if we would even put up a TD...
it looks like we did a helluva lot better in the 2nd half, which surprised me. If anything, after that first half, it was a pretty upbeat ending. 9/1/2007 10:14:46 PM |
wolfpack1100 All American 4390 Posts user info edit post |
Look we sucked in the first half. Our offense was terrible and the defense got tired. In the second half we were a different team. If we play the rest of or games like we played the second half we will be fine. 9/1/2007 10:22:51 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
FIRE TOM!!! 9/1/2007 10:24:35 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
And what the hell kind of play call was that 6 yard pass on second down and 10 and the final drive? Why in the fuck would not all of your receivers be past the first down marker, knowing that we have no timeouts left to stop the clock. We'd have been much better off if Beck had thrown the ball 15 yards out of bounds. As it was we complete a 6 yard pass, the receiver tries but fails to get out of bounds and then we lose 10 seconds because we're scrambling up to the line of scrimmage trying to spike the ball. And it wasn't like this play was called with a minute 20 seconds left on the clock. No, there were 20 seconds left when we snapped the ball. Our play calling on that last drive was retarted.
Of course our play-calling on the last drive wouldn't have mattered at all if those fools had shown up to play in the first half, instead of waiting for the second half to give a shit. Man, we need to have a fucking intra-squad scrimmage before the game, and maybe our dumb-ass players will be fooled into thinking that the start of the game is actually the start of the second half. Here's to hoping... 9/1/2007 10:26:26 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Could it be that our coaching staff and team needed to get to know each other a little?? This was their first complete game together, against a pretty solid team. What it looked like to me was a combination of comfort/bad QB'ing. UCF KNEW daniel evans couldnt throw downfield, so they sat 8 in the box the whole first half. When beck came in and started launching....it opened EVERYTHING up 9/1/2007 10:27:04 PM |
tej434 Veteran 375 Posts user info edit post |
I was at the game, and no Evans definitly look great, he just wasn't pulling the trigger. I honestly don't put it all on Evans, we had -14 yards rushing in the first half and while watching I didn't see Evans miss too many wide open guys. He also had a lot of constant pressure in his face. It seemed like their def had our number as we were bootlegging into the blizt almost every play.
Having a rushing game will do a heck of a lot for a passing game.
Overall, Beck seemed to have a lot more pocket pressence than Evans but not the arm or accuracy. Daniel can be a great passer when he can get a rythm and pulls the trigger...unfortunately he didn't do either tonight. Our Oline def stepped it up in the second half, as did the defense. 9/1/2007 10:30:11 PM |
tej434 Veteran 375 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "UCF KNEW daniel evans couldnt throw downfield, so they sat 8 in the box the whole first half. When beck came in and started launching....it opened EVERYTHING up" |
Just pointing out that doesn't make any sense at all...our Oline looked horrible, bottom line. They couldn't block anything, that's what allowed UCF to play coverage, they didn't have to keep 8 in the box, our Oline was getting destroyed. Evans has a stronger and more accurate arm than Beck, but Beck was the one actually pulling the trigger so the nod goes to him.9/1/2007 10:34:09 PM |
Yoshiemaster Suspended 9388 Posts user info edit post |
^Beck definitely has the arm, but not accuracy on those long balls.
i don't recall his short throws well so i'm not going to comment on them. 9/1/2007 10:35:36 PM |
tej434 Veteran 375 Posts user info edit post |
Yea he did look good with the short ball and we seemed to find some roome to run. But he couldn't hit a reciever down the field to save his life. Even the 4th and 1 toss to a wide open Stone was way behind him. Stone had to completley stop and turn around. 9/1/2007 10:36:46 PM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
The o-line got better in the second half and Beck stood up and took hits but made the pass. The D. Evans era is over. As much as we all hate moral victories, we looked like a pretty decent team in the second half.
Seeing as how Beck gets the start now, it's pretty reasonable to expect us to play better than we did the first half from now on.
You also gotta believe that with first string practice, beck will be able to hit at least 1/3 long balls to open guys. That will be enough to open up the middle.
[Edited on September 1, 2007 at 10:41 PM. Reason : sf] 9/1/2007 10:39:48 PM |