he wouldn't be cut in baseball. he's got a lot of promise, though his BA has not been great. his hitting coaches all attribute that to the fact that he has not played baseball full time. now that he can focus on one sport, he's been able to focus on the finer points of hitting and adjusting to the pitching found at the Single A level. it may take a while for him to get his bearings, but if i had to pick a pro sport in which he would be cut, the NFL would be first.

5/24/2011 9:14:27 PM

NFL careers on average are much shorter than baseball careers, even if Russell never gets the callup to the bigs

The NFL draft is 7 rounds, the MLB draft is like 50

plus there are multiple levels of minor league play

I dunno if he'll ever be a great hitter though, I've heard he might be a pitcher but I'm not sure if he wants to pitch

he does have a fastball in the 90s though

5/24/2011 9:15:11 PM

the rockies would probably like for him to go play, get whatever money back from him, and keep him as a baseball prospect for a lot cheaper, since it seems like he's not doing so great anyways.

5/24/2011 9:20:54 PM

Thanks for the info.

5/24/2011 9:22:20 PM

if he was really set on football he should have taken the appropriate steps to ensure a place to play. for now though, he should take the money he's being paid and play out his contract. if it doesn't work out, he could always Chris Weinke it after a few years and use his last year of eligibility, and create a situation where he could be on campus for spring practice and really have the time to work well with a team. i feel that if he does it this fall, he's just throwing his last year away.

5/24/2011 9:23:18 PM

^^

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=2B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=519432

5/24/2011 9:26:23 PM

No he doesn't. you have 5 to play 4. He is done if he doesn't play this year.

That article today saying he could play as early as June also says he has no timeline to make the decision and he doesn't have much time off next month....meaning the Rockies expect his ass on the diamond.

[Edited on May 24, 2011 at 9:28 PM. Reason : .]

5/24/2011 9:27:12 PM

^how did Weinke pull his off? or did he just go straight to MLB draft after HS and then after it didn't work out he went to play college QB?

5/24/2011 9:32:04 PM

yes

drafted out of HS for baseball, played 6 years, went to FSU at 26

[Edited on May 24, 2011 at 9:36 PM. Reason : ~]

5/24/2011 9:36:16 PM

Yes. He played baseball before going to college.

5/24/2011 9:36:24 PM

well fuck me then

just seems like too risky a move to make for RW. the Rockies would certainly not like it, and suppose they parted ways, then in the future if he wanted to go back to baseball, teams might not even give him the time of day.

5/24/2011 9:41:15 PM

yeah Weinke was old as shit (relatively speaking) as a freshman

5/24/2011 9:44:42 PM

What do these 3 players have in common?

Adam Dunn
Kelly Shoppach
Russell Wilson

[Edited on May 24, 2011 at 9:50 PM. Reason : n]

5/24/2011 9:49:33 PM

I know Adam Dunn played football for Texas so I'm assuming Shoppach and Harris also played college football

[Edited on May 24, 2011 at 9:51 PM. Reason : Dunn was a big ass quarterback]

5/24/2011 9:50:41 PM

further research shows me that Willie Harris does not, indeed, have twice as many strikeouts than hits this season

5/24/2011 9:51:55 PM

Todd Helton too i believe

5/24/2011 9:52:27 PM

5/24/2011 9:54:11 PM

he looks like a severely immobile QB

5/24/2011 10:11:09 PM

he also looks like he could easily shed a cornerback blitz

5/24/2011 10:43:06 PM

he also looks like a young Bill Brasky

5/24/2011 11:15:10 PM

College Football Live had a story on RW being at Auburn. So who is right?

5/24/2011 11:17:28 PM

BILL BRASKY

5/25/2011 12:01:49 AM

[user]lion4Glennon[/user]

5/25/2011 12:02:52 AM

Quote :

"When RW doesn't play football and is still with the Rockies while we go 8-4 again will you quit TWW?"

Just as long as you quit when Wilson is on another team going 8-4 and we don't go 8-4.

5/25/2011 12:13:26 AM

^^ Glennon wouldn't get a lion, he'd get a giraffe. AMIRITE?

5/25/2011 12:20:30 AM

Quote :

"joshwgoodson Josh Goodson "I'm uninspired by that"...#Duke football coach David Cutcliffe on Russell Wilson possibly going to Auburn 29 minutes ago "

Quote :

"joshwgoodson Josh Goodson "Russell Wilson is an #NCSU football player and should leave it at that"- #Duke Football coach David Cutcliffe 30 minutes ago "

RW should have just entered the draft..taken his 6th or 7th round pick and worked his ass off

[Edited on May 25, 2011 at 8:51 AM. Reason : sdf]

5/25/2011 8:44:40 AM

Quote :

"@RyanTice Ryan Tice Rockies official on Russell Wilson: Football means he would have 2 return "significant portion" of $250k signing bonus. http://bit.ly/kAHbXv More Rockies official on Wilson: Says RW is still undecided and “Would we be disappointed if he chose to play football? Yes, we would.”"

5/25/2011 10:37:04 AM

Of course they'd be disappointed. Any employer wouldn't want one of their assets engaging in high risk off the field behavior. Point is, this is Russell's last chance to play football at a high level, probably ever. He can play baseball until he's 40. 250K is a lot when you're 22, but not worth giving up a chance that you may regret for the rest of your life.

5/25/2011 10:41:19 AM

From the link in the tweet, looks like he did go and Auburn is playing dumb.

[SEC fan]Maybe Auburn can compensate Wilson having to return a significant portion of his signing bonus[/SEC fan]

Quote :

"A fourth-round pick of the Colorado Rockies in the 2010 draft, who received a $250,000 signing bonus, Wilson would have to give some of that back if he left the Tourists before the end of this season to play college football. “It's a significant portion he would have to return,” said Marc Gustafson, the Rockies' senior director of player development. Gustafson also said it would be difficult for Wilson, who is struggling offensively with the Tourists, to return to baseball if he played football this fall. “It would be hard for him to come back to baseball because he would miss a lot of games and have had so much time away,” Gustafson said. Wilson is hitting .216 in 38 games with Asheville with 53 strikeouts in 116 at-bats. In 230 at-bats as a pro, Wilson has struck out 89 times. Wilson, who recently turned down an interview request because he said he wouldn't talk about football, informed the Rockies that he was visiting Auburn. "

5/25/2011 10:48:25 AM

i guess what I don't understand is how he thought this was all going to play out? Did he plan all along that he was going to give back the signing bonus? If football is so important to him, then why not just play one more year? He obviously has the goods he could have went to any minor league spring workout and tried out like a lot of guys do every year after not getting drafted and/or cut from a summer free-agent try out (maybe he would make a pro team). I'd rather have him than TJ Yates and a bunch of other numbskull NFL QB's

5/25/2011 10:50:00 AM

love russell wilson.
all time great QB at ncstate.
will be missed by everyone...

but what is transpiring with his wavering and waffling is further validation to me that TOB did the right thing. the boys know who the QB is, and have so much time to adjust and work on chemistry. such a huge benefit for relatively young team with a new WR corp.

5/25/2011 10:52:52 AM

^ +infinity.

5/25/2011 1:41:12 PM

5/25/2011 1:47:47 PM

Yeah, you are all right. No distractions now. It's just so hard...to say goodbye.

5/25/2011 1:54:50 PM

Quote :

"this is one of those times where it's obvious Ernie's gonna play devil's advocate no matter what"

5/25/2011 1:55:37 PM

Quote :

"love russell wilson. all time great QB at ncstate. will be missed by everyone... but what is transpiring with his wavering and waffling is further validation to me that TOB did the right thing. the boys know who the QB is, and have so much time to adjust and work on chemistry. such a huge benefit for relatively young team with a new WR corp."

5/25/2011 2:42:07 PM

Quote :

"love russell wilson. all time great QB at ncstate. will be missed by everyone... but what is transpiring with his wavering and waffling is further validation to me that TOB did the right thing. the boys know who the QB is, and have so much time to adjust and work on chemistry. such a huge benefit for relatively young team with a new WR corp."

5/25/2011 2:44:32 PM

Quote :

"Yeah, you are all right. No distractions now. It's just so hard...to say goodbye. "

I like to think of it as

5/25/2011 2:56:36 PM

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6584535


and

Quote :

"I'd rather have him than TJ Yates and a bunch of other numbskull NFL QB's"

wth is with the random unc reference? no 1 gives a shit about him.

[Edited on May 25, 2011 at 5:34 PM. Reason : didnt work]

[Edited on May 25, 2011 at 5:34 PM. Reason : end of the world]

[Edited on May 25, 2011 at 5:39 PM. Reason : unc reference]

5/25/2011 5:33:51 PM

The dumbest thing Wilson did was sign that baseball contract. The second dumbest thing he did was enter the draft in the first place. If he had any sense at all he would have played out his collegiate eligibility in both sports then entered both drafts and made his choice then.

5/25/2011 9:09:27 PM

Quote :

"wth is with the random unc reference?"

I think it's because TJ Yates got fucking drafted, and Wilson is obviously better than Yates.

also ^I think every Jr. is eligible for the MLB draft, they don't have to enter their name like the NFL/NBA. If they get drafted and sign, they can't play anymore, but if they don't get drafted/don't sign they can go back to school. Wilson got drafted higher than really anyone expected, so it was hard for him to turn down that money.

5/25/2011 9:26:51 PM

Yeah, you don't enter the MLB draft. He was drafted out of high school, too, he just didn't sign.

5/25/2011 9:30:02 PM

eh, let's just say he has not handled his dual sport responsibilities well

he's a great QB, but if he wanted to be an NC State QB, he did not meet the expectations of a full time QB in TOB's system. period.

5/26/2011 12:01:12 AM

Quote :

"also ^I think every Jr. is eligible for the MLB draft, they don't have to enter their name like the NFL/NBA. If they get drafted and sign, they can't play anymore, but if they don't get drafted/don't sign they can go back to school. Wilson got drafted higher than really anyone expected, so it was hard for him to turn down that money."

ah ok, I knew they could come back to school if they didn't sign, but did not know you don't have declare yourself, but still, surely he had some idea that signing it then would put a hamper on his prospects of continuing to be a two sport athlete.

5/26/2011 9:03:17 AM

^2

I wonder what Bob Kennel has to say about this? LOL.


[Edited on May 26, 2011 at 9:27 AM. Reason : referencing dual sport athletes]

5/26/2011 9:25:43 AM

^5, thanks justin, i didn't realize that was so difficult to put together

5/26/2011 9:30:59 AM

I'd rather have Wilson in a two-step drop shotgun run around crazy-ass cowboy hail mary fling it up offense.

Don't run many of those in the NFL, so I'll take TJ Yates as my (scout team) QB.

5/26/2011 10:26:05 AM

right. i know everyone has to hate yates, but the dude is listed at 6'4" and can throw the deep ball, so he has a decent bit more nfl potential than wilson.

5/26/2011 10:28:44 AM

Quote :

"UW football: Ex-N.C. State quarterback schedules Madison visit Former North Carolina State quarterback Russell Wilson is scheduled to visit the University of Wisconsin next week, a UW source said. ...Wilson has reportedly visited Auburn. With the scheduled visit to UW, it would appear the Tigers and Badgers are the leading candidates to land the prolific passer... The Tourists have a day off on Wednesday, making it the only day next week Wilson could visit UW. The team has a day game on Tuesday, so Wilson could fly to Madison on Tuesday night. ...The UW source said Wilson hopes to make a decision on where he'll play before the end of June... Wilson, from Richmond, Va., has a tie to UW. According to several sources, he has a connection to a relative of UW chancellor Biddy Martin."

http://host.madison.com/sports/college/football/article_04ad2bd0-8d56-11e0-8919-001cc4c002e0.html

6/3/2011 10:35:04 AM

Quote :

"According to several sources, he has a connection to a relative of UW chancellor Biddy Martin."

Wow, he's practically a badger already.

6/3/2011 10:40:00 AM