I'm just glad we have our own personal fortune teller here who can forsee the results of all these conference tournaments over a month away

2/7/2012 9:51:28 AM

Declaring the top three mid-majors to get at-large bids certainly requires more clairvoyance than expecting them to continue raping their way through their shitty conferences.

2/7/2012 9:54:50 AM

Channel your inner Fran Fraschilla all you want, but you and I both know very well that there are plenty of upsets in conference tournaments every year. The best teams don't always win, thus creating the whole "Bubble Watch" phenomenom as teams like State and VT root for the favorites from the conferences so their own bids don't get stolen out from underneath them. This has been going on since long before either of us have been posting here, so I can't fathom why you're still barking up this tree.

2/7/2012 10:01:48 AM

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"It's more likely that the NCAA takes just three teams than taking five."

you think UVA is gonna lose out or something?

UNC, Duke, FSU and Virginia are already in

I say either us or Miami gets our 5th berth

2/7/2012 10:03:56 AM

I will eat a treetwista shit sandwich if two of your three teams don't get auto-bids.

And stop writing pseudo-Simmons hackery. I stop reading that shit after like five words.

2/7/2012 10:07:42 AM

Quote :

"The best teams don't always win, thus creating the whole "Bubble Watch" phenomenom as teams like State and VT root for the favorites from the conferences so their own bids don't get stolen out from underneath them."

OH IS THAT HOW IT WORKS THANKS SLAVE

2/7/2012 10:09:00 AM

Virginia is not already in. They can play their way out. They are 6-3 in the conference with only one big win (Michigan) and two bad losses (Virginia Tech and TCU).

Their remaining schedule is similar to ours with 3 difficult games (UNC twice and FSU once more) and the rest are easy. They lose those 3 and fuck up once or twice more, and they're looking to be heavy on the bubble.

2/7/2012 10:11:46 AM

derp

[Edited on February 7, 2012 at 10:23 AM. Reason : .]

2/7/2012 10:14:05 AM

Ernie doesn't like when his constituents string a series of coherent thoughts together, because it lessens his ability to wholly crush them with his dismissive retorts.

2/7/2012 10:15:54 AM

^^^they'll be 19-4 after they beat Wake at home tomorrow, they'd have to really fuck up to play their way out

we all know how down the ACC is this year that we sometimes forget how down other conferences are as well

[Edited on February 7, 2012 at 10:17 AM. Reason : .]

2/7/2012 10:16:38 AM

^ I think if they only "fuck up" one of the games they should win, and they finish at 9-7...they can easily be out.

I agree with you that they're in right now...and in at 10-6. I'm just saying that it's not that far-fetched that they don't make it. Other than their record (padded by a shitty OOC), their resume is not that impressive.

2/7/2012 10:21:47 AM

Quote :

"Drunk and sleepy and my laptop battery burned out"

At 9:30 in the morning on a Tuesday? Nice.

2/7/2012 10:33:55 AM

Interesting bracketology article here with NC State of course the first team out for now.

http://beyondthearc.nbcsports.com/2012/02/07/a-handy-dandy-formula-for-every-bracketologist/

http://beyondthearc.nbcsports.com/2012/02/07/a-handy-dandy-formula-for-every-bracketologist/

2/7/2012 11:46:37 AM

Just in case you missed it the previous two times...

http://beyondthearc.nbcsports.com/2012/02/07/a-handy-dandy-formula-for-every-bracketologist/

2/7/2012 11:55:18 AM

Quote :

"with NC State of course the first team out for now."

Quote :

"Assuming the EBS leader wins every conference's automatic bid, right now the In/Out at-large line would be drawn under Northwestern."

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"1. Purdue (KP 36, RPI 50) 42. Texas (KP 20, RPI 66) 43. Seton Hall (KP 53, RPI 35) 44. Middle Tennessee (KP 41, RPI 48) 45. Murray State (KP 54, RPI 36) 46. Mississippi State (KP 59, RPI 33) 47. Minnesota (KP 47, RPI 52) 48. Saint Joseph's (KP 65, RPI 44) 49. Arkansas (KP 70, RPI 41) 50. Xavier (KP 58, RPI 53) 51. Miami FL (KP 58, RPI 51) 52. South Dakota State (KP 55, RPI 58) 53. Northwestern (KP 69, RPI 46) 54. La Salle (KP 45, RPI 71) 55. Iona (KP 56, RPI 64) 56. Arizona (KP 42, RPI 79) 57. Belmont (KP 32, RPI 89) 58. NC State (KP 61, RPI 60) 59. Akron (KP 67, RPI 56) 60. Colorado State (KP 106, RPI 18)"

2/7/2012 12:29:00 PM

Sorry Mr. Sneeze I was trying to post two seperate links, one with the breakdown of the average of all bracketlogy websites.

It won't link so you have to go to the matrix link after clicking on the aggregated list in the article. Sorry my internet posting skillz aren't anywhere near yours my friend

2/7/2012 12:43:31 PM

2/7/2012 12:50:21 PM

that GTech and UVA game really hurt now.

we'd be in sole possession of first.

2/9/2012 12:16:54 AM

LOL, nice logic. You think the Miami loss might be hurting Duke?

2/9/2012 12:17:42 AM

#12 seed right now in Lunardi's Bracketology

2/11/2012 6:58:06 AM

We are in trouble, just not much time left for us to pull this off. We need to win 3 of these 6 games, ugh

2/11/2012 8:10:49 AM

We might need to win 4 out of the next 6 unless we win a couple of ACC tournament games.

2/11/2012 11:02:46 AM

Am I the only one who is really scared of the @ Miami game on the 29th. That has the makings of a game which could truly knock us out of the bubble.

2/11/2012 11:32:46 AM

Miami plays us at home. We've already played them at their place, which we won. I think we will win that game and sweep Miami, because we have the added benefit of home court advantage. If we sweep Miami and have the same record as them, I think the fact that we swept them will make the NCAA put us in over them if it comes down to that.

2/11/2012 11:45:47 AM

We have a home court advantage?

2/11/2012 12:30:20 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU&feature=related

2/11/2012 12:43:13 PM

So if Miami beats FSU and UNC losses to UVA, we are screwed right?

2/11/2012 1:50:04 PM

loses, and how would we be screwed?

2/11/2012 2:00:40 PM

any time UNC loses, we all win

2/11/2012 2:06:43 PM

I think he is inferring that if UNC keeps losing every game it makes our two 30 point losses to them look REALLY bad.

Uva is in over us already so no worries.

Miami beating Fsu is ok as long as we beat Miami. But if we are going to lose to Miami and beat Fsu I'd rather Fsu win.

Miami is playing really well since our game, they deserve the tourney more than we do honestly. They'll get credit for not having Johnson early if they keep winning

2/11/2012 2:20:49 PM

so you're assuming we'll lose by 30 at home?

2/11/2012 2:25:08 PM

30 is an exaggeration but I don't have a lot of faith in us covering the ~6 point spread.

2/11/2012 2:28:32 PM

I personally see today's game between UNC and UVA as a win-win. It's always nice when UNC loses, but if they win, it gives us a little more cushion between us and UVA. They own the tie-breaker over us, and we only play them once. I personally would like to finish in the Top 4 and have a bye in the ACC tournament. If we were to somehow go on a run to the ACC championship game, it would make our chances better to win it if we only had to play 2 games to get there, rather than 3. See Sid's first year, where we didn't have the legs (as well as talent) to stay with UNC to the end, but kept the game close (it was a 4 point game with 31 seconds left).

2/11/2012 2:30:48 PM

If we are the 4-5 seed the important thing is to win the 4-5 game obviously, but I think the team that plays the #12 seed gets one more win to add to their resume and gets jitters out before their big game.

Definitely doesn't help you the next two rounds though

2/11/2012 2:33:56 PM

ya, I'm with you on that one. 5 seed gets an easy first game and has their game legs under them against the four seed. thats two tourney wins and looks pretty good.

2/11/2012 2:38:29 PM

Lorenzo Brown just needs to sack up if we have any chance of beating any good team. He is the only wild card.

2/11/2012 2:38:45 PM

lol at anyone who would rather finish 5th in the regular season than 4th for any reason including ACC tournament seedings

you'd rather possibly play a Georgia Tech team that already beat us in Raleigh this year than have a first round bye? you think in a 3-4 day tournament its more important to get 'warmed up' in a thursday game than potentially have fresher legs on sunday?


[Edited on February 11, 2012 at 3:07 PM. Reason : jitters? easy first game?]

2/11/2012 3:04:28 PM

Did you read my post?

You get an extra win and you don't come out flat in the first game.

It's not a terrible tradeoff

2/11/2012 3:10:58 PM

the only good thing is the extra win...which is not a foregone conclusion since the current 12-seed already beat us in our own building this year

and i don't think getting 4 days off instead of 5 is going to give us some kind of inherent advantage in our friday game should we advance...if we come out flat 5 months into the season, we've got serious problems

might as well not want us to be ranked so we won't let it go to our heads!

2/11/2012 3:15:38 PM

haha, I dont want us ranked, then we're hungry, and when we hungry we eat

2/11/2012 3:25:56 PM

^except in football, then we shut the bed

2/11/2012 3:48:04 PM

There's a lot of evidence that suggests the bye week is bad for nfl teams.

I haven't seen a study for basketball but I wouldn't be surprised if the 5 seed has a good record vs the 4 seed in that situation

2/11/2012 3:56:33 PM

^ While you may have a good point, a top four ACC finish seals it for us.

2/11/2012 4:34:01 PM

not sure if top four is realistic, but at least UVA and Miami lost last nite.

We are projected as #11 seed with UVA as #5 in our bracket... revenge in NCAAt?:
http://runninreport.com/unlv-basketball/statseed-update/statsheet-projects-unlv-as-ncaa-tournament-four-seed-02-12-2012

2/12/2012 10:57:10 AM

hell, even if we miss the tournament this year, its been exciting actually getting to speculate, unlike speculating whether or not we were even gonna make the nit.

2/12/2012 1:19:26 PM

and if we end up in the NIT, we have a shot to win it!

2/12/2012 1:22:49 PM

There's the optimism every negative state fan (and there are a shit ton) needs to adopt!

2/12/2012 1:42:08 PM

This year we've basically achieved our expectations which was to be a bubble team.

Unfortunately , weve had a lot of good chances to turn the corner into being a good team but just couldn't get it done so far.

Gotta pray there is no offseason nc state shit where guys transfer or go pro because everything is falling into place for next year.

I think we go 0-3 vs the gauntlet of rape and only one of the games is relatively close.

Then 2-1 vs Clemson, Miami, Vt. Sets us up for 1 acct win and then its up to us to pull off a miracle in round 2 for a shot at the ncaa.

We just look like we are crawling to the finish. We're still struggling defensively, we can't control our turnovers, and lately we can't even rebound. I think our lack of depth is catching up with us. We needed this week off badly, but I'm not sure its going to be enough. The FSU game is the one we should be focusing on in practice preparation

2/12/2012 3:27:55 PM

If we can get some good perimeter defense vs Duke I think we have a legitimate shot at beating them, and having already played at Carolina, the "wow" factor of playing at Cameron shouldn't be so overwhelming like it seemed when we played UNC the first time.

2/12/2012 3:36:32 PM

Yes, lets not focus on beating duke.

2/12/2012 3:36:38 PM