BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
why is Krallum's picture in here?
[Edited on March 10, 2012 at 4:23 PM. Reason : lol page topper] 3/10/2012 4:23:15 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
3/10/2012 4:27:26 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
If I didn't already hate digger enough 3/10/2012 4:27:32 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
3/10/2012 4:27:41 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
I thought the charge on Howell was a much worse call 3/10/2012 4:28:05 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
someone make a gif of Howell's foul that was the mirror of that 3/10/2012 4:28:23 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
^ and leslie's, and brown's
[Edited on March 10, 2012 at 4:30 PM. Reason : ] 3/10/2012 4:29:04 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Painter lost us the game." |
Really? How about Wood or CJW??
I'm actually astonished that we were able to stay in this game with both of these guys playing like pure shit.
Its scary to think how good we could be if everyone was clicking on all cylinders...but I don't even like to mention it because CJW mailed it in a couple weeks ago and Scott Wood disappears unless we're playing the Little Sisters of the Poor.
Hopefully Leslie/Brown/Howell can carry us to at least the 2nd round and maybe we'll luck up and get a good game out of Wood.3/10/2012 4:29:51 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
It's more fun to hate on a bench player 3/10/2012 4:31:13 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Its scary to think how good we could be if everyone was clicking on all cylinders" |
How often does that happen for even the best teams? Marshall sucked today, Barnes had about three good minutes, did Bullock even play offense?3/10/2012 4:32:39 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
From ESPN's bubble watch when ESPN is saying we got hosed we got fucking hosed: After NC State's close loss to rival North Carolina Saturday, the remaining ACC bubble teams have officially bowed out of the conference postseason. So where do they stand? Miami is in trouble after Friday's loss to Florida State, but not totally out of the picture, depending on how much weight the committee gives to that marquee win at Duke. NC State, meanwhile, has to feel more confident about its bid. If the committee saw Saturday's loss (preceded by a win over Virginia), they saw a team play one of the nation's best close for all 40 minutes -- the last eight of which came without its best player, C.J. Leslie, who fouled out on a massive mistake by the NCSU coaching staff -- and one that received the worst end of a universally bad officiating performance by the ACC referees. (When Pack fans complain that Duke and UNC get all the calls, Kendall Marshall's apparent game-winning charge is what they mean.) In any case, the committee was no doubt in front of the TV, and even without the win, NC State's effort seems likely to be rewarded.
North Carolina State [22-12 (9-7), RPI: 47, SOS: 30] Mark Gottfried's team entered the day as one of Joe Lunardi's last four teams in the tournament, which is a pretty good spot to be when your worst-case scenario is a loss to putative No. 1 seed North Carolina. An uncompetitive blowout loss might have changed this status for the worse, but what NC State did -- playing UNC close to the final buzzer, and getting the wrong end of a couple key calls (the refs were bad for both teams, but there's little question NC State felt a lion's share of the pain) -- certainly can't hurt their chances, can it? The Pack is far from a lock, of course (there's that pesky 2-9 record against the top 50), but they're in much better shape than when they arrived in Atlanta. That much is for sure. 3/10/2012 4:36:45 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Every time that gif plays I get more and more pissed at how obvious of a charge call that should have been. 3/10/2012 4:37:14 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How often does that happen for even the best teams? Marshall sucked today, Barnes had about three good minutes, did Bullock even play offense?" |
Almost happens every time UNC plays us. But I see lots of games where the the whole team has solid games.
And I'm not even saying we need them to be crushing it. But Wood SHOULD hit at least half of his WIDE OPEN threes. CJW shouldn't be committing dumb fouls, missing open jumpers, and turning the ball over for THREE STRAIGHT WEEKS.3/10/2012 4:37:16 PM |
dbhawley All American 3339 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like ole Roy isnt the only one with a BB gun
3/10/2012 4:47:16 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
3/10/2012 5:19:10 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
seriously. the duke/unc bias is un fucking real 3/10/2012 5:25:45 PM |
macoo2 ?? ? ?? 540 Posts user info edit post |
Unfortunately I had to listen via radio at work...I knew it must have been getting silly when Gary Hahn finally broke down and said something to the effect of "There have really been a lot of bad calls against State here...and frankly I'm getting sick of it"
GG Pack - Sticking in there despite shitty calls and less than stellar shooting. Zo, Leslie and Howell (for his rebounding effort) carried this team.
FUCK and now that I am actually able to stare at that gif fifty times...KM literally jumps shoulder first into Johnson on that play. GOD DAMN. That's all.
[Edited on March 10, 2012 at 6:05 PM. Reason : fuck you kendall marshall] 3/10/2012 6:01:15 PM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
Really impressed that we hung around given the bad calls. To be fair, the ref didn't turn the ball over on the last 2 possessions. Should have gotten the charge call. But could have won the game despite the bad calls. 3/10/2012 6:08:44 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
The problem is you shouldn't have to win the game in spite of bad calls. Can swofford go ahead and die already? 3/10/2012 6:12:27 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
First time we've put ourselves in the position to win in years, but still enough mistakes for the referee bias to have mattered. 3/10/2012 6:13:22 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
^ this. two turnovers in the last minute in a close game will kill you every time. 3/10/2012 6:15:12 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I'm over the anger and want to give props to the team for not giving up. Several times during the game I fully expected them to pack it in. I thought for sure once Leslie fouled out they would fold. I'm proud of how much they hustled and the heart they showed. We are not deep enough nor have we learned how to win close games against superior teams. With some depth and the experience we've gained in just year one of a new coach, next year looks very promising.
ibwaittillnextyear 3/10/2012 6:15:14 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on March 10, 2012 at 6:19 PM. Reason : a]
3/10/2012 6:15:38 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
FREE THROWS LOST THE GAME 3/10/2012 6:16:01 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
I'm coming down from the rage too, but my chest still hurts. The pain on Gottfried and Brown's faces in the post presser nearly killed me though. 3/10/2012 6:16:55 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
you know, on the last play, I can't see the refs calling a foul on that. he didn't have possession, s you can't really say he was in the act of shooting or anything 3/10/2012 6:20:15 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
^He didn't have possession, but he did essentially take blows to the face in the scrum 3/10/2012 6:21:49 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
wrong on both counts
and even if you are right they he wasnt shooting, he still gets free throws w/ the foul 3/10/2012 6:22:11 PM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
DUH YOU CANT BE FOULED WITHOUT THE BALL GUYS 3/10/2012 6:23:47 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
3/10/2012 6:26:10 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
25 straight years of losing the tournament 3/10/2012 6:27:21 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
sure, you can be fouled without the ball, bu there was contact both ways there, as guys were going for the ball. I don't like it, but I don't see how you can call a foul there. they're going for the ball. UNC has as much a right to go for the ball as we do. 3/10/2012 6:29:20 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ (^.-)
[Edited on March 10, 2012 at 6:30 PM. Reason : r] 3/10/2012 6:30:24 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
So, can any of you all explain what the hell happend when we came out of our last timeout and proceeded to throw the ball out of bounds? AJ or ZO fuck up? 3/10/2012 6:30:51 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
we just fucked it up. bad pass, probably to a guy who wasn't expecting it. micro-ncstateshit 3/10/2012 6:31:35 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you know, on the last play, I can't see the refs calling a foul on that. he didn't have possession, s you can't really say he was in the act of shooting or anything" |
zeller didn't have possession on that rebound foul by wood so...3/10/2012 6:32:00 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
The last play was a foul on unc no question 3/10/2012 6:32:04 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ Zo started to cut just as AJ threw the ball. Zo still got his hand on it; lack of focus on both, basically.
[Edited on March 10, 2012 at 6:32 PM. Reason : ^] 3/10/2012 6:32:25 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So, can any of you all explain what the hell happend when we came out of our last timeout and proceeded to throw the ball out of bounds? AJ or ZO fuck up?" |
Zo was about to cut to the basket, AJ thought he was not going to do that.3/10/2012 6:32:36 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I can't complain about the call at the end but I think for most people that was just the culmination of all the bad calls up to that point. Watching the gifs of the Marshall and Leslie plays beside each other shows exactly why people are pissed. If you call that on Leslie then Marshall's is even more a charge because he lowered the shoulder and pushed as opposed to Leslie just running him over. Defense by both players was pretty much exactly the same on both plays. I don't mind the charge call on Leslie there its a 50/50 call but it's 100% a charge on Marshall if that is the call. 3/10/2012 6:35:51 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
The game was called completely different in the last minute to the rest of the game. That's the point. Suddenly, charges that were called all game are no calls. Loose ball fouls that are called all game are not called. 3/10/2012 6:39:24 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
My jimmies are still significantly rustled. 3/10/2012 6:40:58 PM |
macoo2 ?? ? ?? 540 Posts user info edit post |
Damn I'm about to go drink this one away while watching the Canes lose another one in overtime. 3/10/2012 6:43:15 PM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
post game press conference anywhere online? 3/10/2012 6:44:33 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
^wral 3/10/2012 6:45:14 PM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My jimmies are still significantly rustled." |
3/10/2012 6:54:01 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's unfortunate because the officials out here have great reputations, that's why their doing this game, but everybody has a bad day, unfortunately someone has to pay for it" |
3/10/2012 6:59:52 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
bahahaha. Perennial bad day recipients. 3/10/2012 7:01:08 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Kendall Marshall said in the press conference that in the last drive of games, ticky-tacky fouls are not given that often, so it was worth taking that risk. 3/10/2012 7:03:25 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
Well you do need to attack the basket and have that killer instinct, especially with both teams in foul trouble. Would have been nice if we did the same thing instead of throwing it away on finesse passing. 3/10/2012 7:07:23 PM |