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5/8/2010 9:02:38 PM

I thought Atsur was quite fundamentally-sound. he made up for lack of quickness and go-to scoring ability by using his head and doing the little things

5/8/2010 9:03:47 PM

Brown and Leslie will make the biggest impacts by grabbing rebounds and getting second chance points. That's the are of our game that could use the biggest improvement -- getting high-probability points while simultaneously stopping the other team from getting points

5/8/2010 9:14:59 PM

how is Brown defensively? it's hard to tell from highlights except for a block or two

i would assume he's capable based on his athleticism

5/8/2010 9:28:31 PM

atsur was the only person capable of running lowe's offense the way he wanted it, and it was spectacular.

i remember the announcers and play by play guys going nuts over lowe's bag of tricks.

people are going to look retarded drooling over our offense next year and nothing will have changed except for having someone capable of running what we have been trying to run since he left

5/8/2010 10:53:48 PM

even when atsur was a freshman, i thought he was just as vital to the team as hodge. he was a smart, fundamentally sound player and leader. i'd love another atsur.

5/8/2010 10:57:48 PM

Yeah, with Atsur running point, we were pretty unstoppable against man-to-man. Atsur could step back and shoot, so that made it all work even though he couldn't drive too often. If all you can do is pass out of the pick and roll (Javi), then teams will just cheat off of you.

You have to be at least a double threat (which Harrow and Brown will be) and, ideally, a triple threat. Give Harrow or Brown a year in the system and they should add that third dimension.

5/8/2010 10:58:23 PM

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"atsur was the only person capable of running lowe's offense the way he wanted it, and it was spectacular. i remember the announcers and play by play guys going nuts over lowe's bag of tricks. people are going to look retarded drooling over our offense next year and nothing will have changed except for having someone capable of running what we have been trying to run since he left"

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" hy·per·bo·le /ha?'p?rb?li/ Show Spelled[hahy-pur-buh-lee] Show IPA –nounRhetoric. 1. obvious and intentional exaggeration. 2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.” "

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5/8/2010 10:59:53 PM

so i didn't mean that Atsur wasn't good, i loveeeed Atsur. It's just Brown is under control like he was, but is quicker, faster and has more "moves" (plus hops/athleticism). hot dayyum

5/8/2010 11:50:18 PM

Can I get recent college comparisons to these guys?

harrow-ish smith?
brown-willie warren?
leslie-???

[Edited on May 9, 2010 at 12:01 AM. Reason : even if its what they will be by sr year or what they will be right away.]

5/9/2010 12:01:11 AM

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"leslie-???"

extreme upside potential: Kevin Garnett

[Edited on May 9, 2010 at 12:06 AM. Reason : not recent college or college at all, but someone you're familiar with]

and to stick with the theme, Harrow's upside is Isaiah with more hops, and Brown's upside is Allen Iverson...fuck maybe D-Wade

[Edited on May 9, 2010 at 12:09 AM. Reason : again...absolute best case scenarios here, not what we will probably see]

5/9/2010 12:06:24 AM

I've heard some Isiah thomas comparisons for harrow. especially with his lack of size and range. does that sound accurate?


what will we see next year?

[Edited on May 9, 2010 at 12:13 AM. Reason : i'm talking washingtons isiah. are you talking old one or young one?]

5/9/2010 12:12:01 AM

i'm talking young all of them...and the main comparison with harrow is the sick handles and great vision and passing

Isaiah Thomas? one of the best point guards in college and the NBA in the last 30 years?

i'm giving my opinion of who these players remind me of, if they live up to every single inch of hype and then some

hahaha i think the comparisons you've heard are also to Zeke

are you too young to remember the Isaiah Thomas who led Indiana to a championship (one of Knight's 3) and led the Bad Boy Pistons 2 two NBA titles?

[Edited on May 9, 2010 at 12:18 AM. Reason : .]

5/9/2010 12:15:02 AM

way too young. I remember the one that lead the washington huskies to the sweet 16 in 010

[Edited on May 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM. Reason : and the one that ran the knicks into the ground then went suicidal]

5/9/2010 12:23:16 AM

here you go



btw I had this VHS tape back in the day...NBA Superstars...off the fucking chain

5/9/2010 12:28:34 AM

FYI, Bob Knight is the shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axETIyjYvCc

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"Now, the foul was not called right away there, chuck, because the official felt that Alford should be knocked completely to the floor before the foul was called. He thought that he should be able to support the guy hanging on his back for at least 11 seconds and if he could do so after 11 seconds, then the foul would be called. "

Can't say this nowadays

[Edited on May 9, 2010 at 12:46 AM. Reason : .]

5/9/2010 12:41:14 AM

lol awesome...and much better resolution than my crappy video...i guarantee you somebody ripped it from a vhs

5/9/2010 12:43:23 AM

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"how is Brown defensively?"

he's a ball hawk

5/9/2010 4:03:24 AM

Via Twitter an hour ago from Harrow:

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" 1HARROW2 I love my mom. If everything goes like it should. Ima take care of her so good in two years "

5/9/2010 1:58:43 PM

I'm thinking 3.

5/9/2010 2:00:14 PM

So he's no Julius Hodge I guess.

5/9/2010 2:06:22 PM

You'll take what you can get.

5/9/2010 2:06:26 PM

he's not good enough or big enough to go pro in 2 years

5/9/2010 2:13:57 PM

I honestly don't see the big deal with finishing college...

5/9/2010 2:14:47 PM

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"You'll take what you can get."

If he's good enough to go pro after 2 I'll be happy for him, because it will mean he's been damn good for 2 years, probably better than most people expect him to be.

5/9/2010 2:19:01 PM

i just saw that on twitter too. two years is a long time from now, but i frankly don't see it happening at this point

i like this though

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"@tbarnesphuresh6 wuteva is in store for me will happen. Who knows. I have my haters and my supporters. Just depends how hard i work"

[Edited on May 9, 2010 at 2:50 PM. Reason : .]

5/9/2010 2:50:11 PM

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"he's not good enough "

im going to wait until i see him play before i say he isnt good enough to get to the league in 2 years
he is really really good.

5/9/2010 6:46:12 PM

Yeah, well see. Chris Paul took 2 years and he was small as shit coming in.

5/9/2010 7:11:12 PM

5/9/2010 9:19:21 PM

seriously, wtf?

5/9/2010 10:00:18 PM

^^That's a pretty gay way to show your excitement over this recruiting class.

5/9/2010 10:03:00 PM

its the song.

and that show is hilarious.

5/9/2010 10:15:05 PM

maybe if you smoke more weed than Tommy Chong, or are 4 years old.

5/9/2010 10:21:40 PM

I made it through 4 seconds of that video.

5/9/2010 10:22:05 PM

I hate you all. *runs away crying*

5/9/2010 10:36:52 PM

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"he's not good enough or big enough to go pro in 2 years"

none of us know about good enough yet, but if he gains 20 lbs he'll only be an inch shorter than dj augustin who was a lottery pic after 2 years

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"I honestly don't see the big deal with finishing college..."

you go to college to learn skills to help aquire a high paying job, i have no problem with him leaving as a consensus first round pick. these are his money making years, college will always be here for him when he's done

i, too, like spongebob, but that song is pretty gay

5/9/2010 10:44:38 PM

That and you develop as a person. Get beyond the 'high school mindset' as it were.


Hopefully....

5/9/2010 10:53:40 PM

i'm still not ready for the nba

5/10/2010 12:36:28 AM

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"maybe if you smoke more weed than Tommy Chong, or are 4 years old."

Spongebob is a deceivingly brilliant show OK

5/10/2010 12:45:10 AM

Yahoo's front page story for NCAA Men Basketball is on recruiting
http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1082472

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"Q. Which school surprised you the most -- good or bad -- with its class this recruiting cycle? A. North Carolina State is the school that stands out to me. Coach Sidney Lowe is on the hot seat, but he still brought in a top-five class in the country. On top of that, he lands forward C.J. Leslie of Raleigh (N.C.) Word of God Christian Academy, who previously had decommitted from N.C. State. It is always a surprise when a prospect ends up at a school from which he had decommitted. "

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 8:06 AM. Reason : ]

5/10/2010 8:03:06 AM

^ is that like a diamond-encrusted, platinum balance band?

5/10/2010 9:26:31 AM

lol

5/10/2010 10:00:56 AM

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation

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"Spiders, Pack have momentum on their side May, 10, 2010 1:31 PM ET By Andy Katz While Kentucky coach John Calipari was anticipating for the past month that he might lose his fence-sitters in the draft, he also knew he could still withstand the blow by recruiting at an elite level. North Carolina State and Richmond are two programs that couldn't afford a setback. On the surface, there is no reason to believe NC State's Tracy Smith or Richmond's Kevin Anderson would stay in the draft. Neither had much buzz about them, but this is an era where just having someone mention you might be a first-round pick, or even a second-rounder, can entice a player to say goodbye to school. NC State is a program that should be on the rise. With the return of Smith, the team's leading scorer (16.5) and rebounder (7.3) last season, the Wolfpack may finally turn the corner under Sidney Lowe after four subpar years. The Pack haven't won more than six ACC games under Lowe and won five last season. But NC State won six of its last nine games overall and the recruiting has finally reached a national level. "We've definitely got momentum," Lowe said. "We finished strong and with quality players coming back and the young talent coming in we're going in the right direction.'' The Wolfpack signed up one of the top perimeters in the fall with guards Ryan Harrow and Lorenzo Brown. Then in late April, they snagged the highly coveted hometown forward C.J. Leslie of Raleigh. If Smith had departed early, the momentum would have been stunted. "That would have been a tremendous blow to our team,'' Lowe said. "I wasn't worried, but someone got in his ear and told him that it won't hurt to throw your name in. It was all of a sudden. He did tell me that he would come back." Lowe signed Leslie amid rumors that he was going to be fired (not true) and the athletic director who hired him was going to be out (which turned out to be correct when Lee Fowler resigned last week, effective June 30). "We got C.J. during a tough time of change," Lowe said. "Lee was good to me. A good man. It was a tough deal." Now the Wolfpack have the veteran presence in Smith and the high-level talent coming in with Harrow, Brown and Leslie. "That's what we've been waiting for," Lowe said. "When you look at the top programs that's what they do, year in and year out. This is the group that we've been able to recruit when they were young. We've got guys coming back with some five-star, high-quality players to mix it in." Programs trying to move upward can't afford to lose talent early to the draft if there isn't a backfill immediately behind them. Richmond made the NCAAs for the first time under Chris Mooney this past season. The Spiders won nine games in the A-10 in each of the previous two seasons and then last season won 13 and 26 overall before losing to Saint Mary's in the first round of the NCAA tournament. The backcourt of A-10 player of the year Anderson and David Gonzalvez wasn't going to be reunited with Gonzalvez a senior. But had the Spiders also lost Anderson, keeping up with Temple, Xavier and Dayton would have been a chore. Like Smith, Anderson just wanted to see if he could get a bite. With the short window of opportunity, he did not and returned. Gonzalvez ate up a lot of minutes last season and Darien Brothers, who played sparingly, Kevin Smith and Greg Robbins -- the latter two more wings than traditional guards -- will share minutes in place of Gonzalvez. Take Anderson out of the equation and there goes Richmond's marquee player, its go-to guy and a veteran presence to ease in these players. "That would have been difficult to overcome," Mooney said. "We've finished in the top five three straight years in the A-10 and we're on line to finish high again. That would have been a setback. We're building the program to where we want it to be.''"

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 1:56 PM. Reason : k]

5/10/2010 1:56:26 PM

Our reward for getting sick commits is an impossible to win game in the ACC/Big 10 challenge

http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/05/10/heavy_hitting_big_ten-acc_challenge_matchups

oh well, I guess that lessens the damage when we'd normally drop a game to Iowa or Northwestern

5/10/2010 4:13:33 PM

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"Our reward for getting sick commits is an impossible to win game in the ACC/Big 10 challenge "

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" Impossible is nothing "

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 4:25 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2010 4:21:13 PM

that's a tough matchup, we probably have more offensive firepower than they do but they are obviously much better defensively...either way it'll help our RPI significantly.

5/10/2010 4:27:30 PM

shit, i'm just happy we actually get to play in the challenge this year

last year i felt so left out...like there are 11 people for a pickup basketball game, and you are the one who has to sit out

5/10/2010 4:38:46 PM

Throw the young bucks into the fire early will get them ready for ACC play. This is a good thing.

5/10/2010 4:41:11 PM

A football game might break out in that one...and Javi is likely to go welterweight on somebody.

5/10/2010 4:43:00 PM

those are some tasty looking match-ups...

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 4:44 PM. Reason : ]

5/10/2010 4:44:00 PM