I've never used the substitution pattern criticism on Lowe before to be honest... but it's mind blowing that someone is actually defending the Gonzalez for Harrow move tonight.

I do my fair share of criticizing Harrow because I expect a lot from him but he was our best player in the second half offensively. Figure out a matchup that works for him, change the defense up, do whatever you need to do... but keep Ryan Harrow in the game at the end!

1/11/2011 10:52:08 PM

Exactly, make a fucking adjustment.

1/11/2011 10:53:37 PM

The basketball program is in good shape we are getting better and adding talent. Our success the next 4 years will breed even more future success.

1/11/2011 10:53:46 PM

adder never knows what the fuck he's talking about

1/11/2011 10:54:20 PM

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"it's mind blowing that someone is actually defending the Gonzalez for Harrow move tonight. "

sid could decide to send 4 people out there and some people on here would defend it and say that it is innovative and genius and when it failed would simply blame it on the players

1/11/2011 10:54:26 PM

I take back every good thing I've said about Javi

1/11/2011 10:54:35 PM

Harrow also wasn't being as effective when he was pulled. He wasn't able to drive and score (BC had adjusted to that and that was Harrows one trick) I would have left him in but I can see why giving BC a different look was attempted.

1/11/2011 10:54:52 PM

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"Figure out a matchup that works for him"

dude's 5'10". there's only one matchup on the floor that works for him.

but i'm done w/ lowe. this is the type of game that would've been an automatic loss the last four years, and one that we needed to win if we were a different team this year. we came out not ready to play in the least.

whatever.

Quote :

"sid could decide to send 4 people out there and some people on here would defend it and say that it is innovative and genius and when it failed would simply blame it on the players"

not a single fucking person has done anything like that. shut the fuck up.

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 10:55 PM. Reason : .]

1/11/2011 10:55:18 PM

This game should not count against Lowe because it was in Boston and that's just not fair.

or if you don't like that...

The basketball program is in good shape we are getting better and adding talent. Our success the next 4 years will breed even more future success.

The football program the jury is still out on, he'll need a killer class in 2012 to keep us from falling off a cliff soon.


Two road games against borderline tournament teams and a home game against an elite and even arguably #1 team.

Let's put these games in perspective fellas.

Have big boy thoughts.

1/11/2011 10:55:30 PM

simonn nooooooooooooooooooo

1/11/2011 10:55:56 PM

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"Harrow also wasn't being as effective when he was pulled."

What the fuck are you talking about dude, he scored 10 of our last 12 points. How is that not being "effective". There is no defense for that boneheaded substitution.

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 10:56 PM. Reason : e]

1/11/2011 10:56:04 PM

You all do realize we were underdogs in this one right?

1/11/2011 10:56:23 PM

Our guys are too talented to look this bad

Bye Sid

1/11/2011 10:56:28 PM

We don't win the close games because we're a stupid team. 5 years and running.

1/11/2011 10:56:29 PM

The basketball program is in good shape we are getting better and adding talent. Our success the next 4 years will breed even more future success.

1/11/2011 10:56:49 PM

fuck basketball

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 10:57 PM. Reason : .]

1/11/2011 10:57:09 PM

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"You all do realize we were underdogs in this one right?"

And we will be for most of the rest of the season

1/11/2011 10:57:34 PM

Quote :

"You all do realize we were underdogs in this one right?"

yeah, underdogs to fucking boston college. a team w/ a first year head coach and 3000 people in the stands. how does that help?

Quote :

"simonn nooooooooooooooooooo"

trust me ernie... this hurts me a lot more than it hurts you

1/11/2011 10:57:44 PM

1/11/2011 10:58:16 PM

I'm surprised Lowe didn't pull Tracy Smith and put in Vandenburg. He might as well have.

1/11/2011 10:58:20 PM

The basketball program is in good shape we are getting better and adding talent. Our success the next 4 years will breed even more future success.

1/11/2011 10:59:36 PM

I would like to see Harrow get a lot more minutes, and if he doesn't against FSU that's another notch in my fire Sid belt

However

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"You have posted that twice and it is absolutely wrong. Jackson was killing us, Brown was on Jackson, Brown was getting burnt over and over.... so who do we pull? Harrow. "

I can think of Harrow getting burnt at least twice by Jackson, once on the play where he beat three dudes

1/11/2011 11:00:37 PM

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"yeah, underdogs to fucking boston college. a team w/ a first year head coach and 3000 people in the stands. how does that help?"

Fucking exactly. About time some of you see the light.

I'd love to see the stars/recruiting rankings of our team vs. BC.

1/11/2011 11:00:55 PM

You guys are fucking idiots. BC had adjusted to what Harrow was doing. Was pulling him out the right decision (in hindsight obviously not) but given that you have a senior guard who you would expect to make solid decisions and be a better defender what would you do? BC had adjusted to Harrow's driving so Lowe tried to throw something different at them. Pretty simple.

1/11/2011 11:01:13 PM

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"I can think of Harrow getting burnt at least twice by Jackson, once on the play where he beat three dudes"

the play immediately before pulling harrow, he BADLY lost his man, who hit a wide open 3. this man was not jackson. i realize i'm not arguing w/ you, but i don't want to quote that idiot.

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"Fucking exactly. About time some of you see the light."

you can shut the fuck up, you're not doing god's work for nc state basketball.

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:02 PM. Reason : .]

1/11/2011 11:02:03 PM

1/11/2011 11:02:06 PM

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"TreeTwista10 TreeTwista10/20/2010 92636 Posts user info edit post we're arguably playing our best ball in Sidney's tenure 1/8/2011 10:49:43 PM"

well that was short lived lol

1/11/2011 11:02:07 PM

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"I'd love to see the stars/recruiting rankings of our team vs. BC."

lol who gives a fuck about that

BC was playing three seniors and Reggie Jackson

1/11/2011 11:02:12 PM

Javi played like absolute shit tonight.

he doesn't play that bad every night.

1/11/2011 11:02:13 PM

I'm sure leaving Harrow in the game would've caused the other 4 NCSU players on the court to step up and prevent the three consecutive 3-pointers

I don't agree with the substitution either, but acting like thats what cost us the game makes you all look like your usual retarded selves

1/11/2011 11:02:37 PM

The basketball program is in good shape we are getting better and adding talent. Our success the next 4 years will breed even more future success.

1/11/2011 11:02:38 PM

^ who the fuck is this guy?

1/11/2011 11:03:04 PM

Coaching wasn't bad except the terrible substitution.

We got plenty of easy shots, just didn't fall.

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:03 PM. Reason : still credible]

1/11/2011 11:03:30 PM

More Javi observations:

At least twice he fucked the pick and roll on offense in the first half

And at least twice he switched on a screen and ended up guarding Trapacne

Seriously though did you see that zit on Trapani's shoulder

1/11/2011 11:03:49 PM

^^that's sid's fault.

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:03 PM. Reason : k]

1/11/2011 11:03:49 PM

^^^^Troll

Our guard defense in general was poor but Javi did fuck up on screens a lot.

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:05 PM. Reason : asdfdsf]

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:05 PM. Reason : asdfasdf]

1/11/2011 11:03:54 PM

attn: Ernie

thanks. i needed that. i can now let lowe go properly.

here's to you, sidney.

1/11/2011 11:03:56 PM

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"I'm sure leaving Harrow in the game would've caused the other 4 NCSU players on the court to step up and prevent the three consecutive 3-pointers I don't agree with the substitution either, but acting like thats what cost us the game makes you all look like your usual retarded selves "

one of them was javi's man.. just sayin

1/11/2011 11:04:14 PM

and one of them was someone else's.

1/11/2011 11:04:35 PM

Quote :

"Seriously though did you see that zit on Trapani's shoulder"

1/11/2011 11:04:53 PM

Quote :

"I'm sure leaving Harrow in the game would've caused the other 4 NCSU players on the court to step up and prevent the three consecutive 3-pointers I don't agree with the substitution either, but acting like thats what cost us the game makes you all look like your usual retarded selves"

Just one of the many reasons we lost, and our coach is in over his head. There was NO DOUBT in my mind we would come out flat and unprepared.

1/11/2011 11:05:10 PM

one play doesnt make the game

i wish we would've won, but its a team effort in a win or a loss...and yes, its on the coach too

but you cant put this loss on one particular play or one particular substitution

1/11/2011 11:05:54 PM

You know, if we somehow beat Fla St on the road next game, we will still be in a good.....


hahahahaha we ain't beating Fla St.

1/11/2011 11:06:23 PM

Let's be real

Harrow should have seen more time and we came out flat

We looked good coming out of timeouts, played good defense in the middle of the game and took away their strengths, and once our big guys stopped missing one-footers our offense was working great

Not a whole lot to bitch about from Sid other than the final score

Again, though, it's all black and white

1/11/2011 11:06:24 PM

Seriously, Javi shouldn't get more than 10 minutes max.

I'd rather brown play the point when Harrow is on the bench, and go big with wood, leslie, smith, and painter.

1/11/2011 11:06:25 PM

Quote :

"You all do realize we were underdogs in this one right?"

God forbid we EVER happen to exceed expectations.. good coaches NEVER do that.

1/11/2011 11:06:26 PM

the whole substitution thing is out of control. subs aren't the reason we lose. we lose b/c we don't come out ready to fucking play.

Quote :

"Let's be real Harrow should have seen more time and we came out flat We looked good coming out of timeouts, played good defense in the middle of the game and took away their strengths, and once our big guys stopped missing one-footers our offense was working great Not a whole lot to bitch about from Sid other than the final score"

these are moral victories for year one though. it's time to win some fucking games. i fucking hate losing to the following teams in basketball: virginia tech, miami, florida state, georgia tech, virginia and fucking especially boston fucking college.

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:08 PM. Reason : ugh.]

1/11/2011 11:06:51 PM

You guys are so full of big boy thoughts.

Sober up and talk to your boyfriend in the morning you fucking dick sucking, cum guzzling faggots.


We almost won a game on the road but because we lost Sid should be fired?

First time around the block Sally?

1/11/2011 11:07:22 PM

at least its either we turn it around and make the tourney or we get a new coach.. so its a win/win situation.

1/11/2011 11:07:43 PM

CJW also played the fewest minutes of the year after his best game of the year

I guess that's also suspect

1/11/2011 11:08:26 PM