Prof 'sickened' by UNC academic scandal

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/11090438/

History Professor Jay Smith: “We had all this news about a rogue tutor,” Smith explained. “There was a rogue assistant coach, a rogue agent, now, a rogue faculty member and a rogue administrative assistant. That's a lot of rogues."

I love it!

5/10/2012 7:08:11 PM

The herpes of sports scandals.

5/10/2012 7:11:57 PM

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"Ken Medlin @kenmedlin Ex-UNC football player Donte Paige-Moss arrested for dwi, reckless driving and speeding in Orange Co."

Never let it end.

5/10/2012 8:28:31 PM

Whenever i have a shitty day at work, I can always come to this thread and immediately cheer up.

5/10/2012 8:47:10 PM

^ same here, always brightens my day

5/10/2012 9:53:00 PM

New info coming out, 58% of students in the courses were athletes when you include in the non revenue numbers.

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"More than half of the students enrolled in the classes in question were athletes, according to Nancy Davis, associate vice chancellor for university relations. 246 of them were football players (36 percent of enrollments); 23 were basketball players (3 percent); and 131 (19 percent) were students who competed in Olympic sports."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/11090438/

5/10/2012 10:46:09 PM

someone should find one of the athletes who transferred out of unc that was in one of those classes and see what was up. haha

5/10/2012 11:21:58 PM

lol @ this being a legitimate field of study

5/10/2012 11:26:42 PM

so... 6 out of ten students in these fake classes were athletes, and athletes make up less than 1% of the student body. mmmmhmmmmmmmmmm

5/10/2012 11:32:23 PM

probably about 30% more were the athlete's friends who knew the deal.

5/10/2012 11:37:34 PM

It just gets more and more crooked everytime

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/05/11/2057064/unc-chapel-hill-might-take-action.html

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"Last summer, UNC-Chapel Hill professor Julius Nyang’oro received $12,000 to teach AFAM 280 – Blacks in North Carolina. The 19 students enrolled in the course were to learn about the state’s legacy of slavery and racism, and how blacks fought to overcome it."

$12K for a single summer class.

[Edited on May 11, 2012 at 12:42 AM. Reason : summer class that is]

5/11/2012 12:41:29 AM

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"Nyang’oro received $120,000 in summer school pay during the four-year period that was under review. University officials say the other eight summer school courses he taught were in a classroom setting and are not in question. They were all introductory courses offered by the African studies department. He was paid $8,400 for being a summer school administrator for three sessions, university records said. The pay was in addition to his annual salary, which reached $171,000 last year before he stepped down as chairman. That knocked his pay down to $159,000."

5/11/2012 12:48:41 AM

Nice job @ncstate_shit

Forgot which one of you it is but just reviewed last nights twitter feed. Made my morning.

5/11/2012 6:40:41 AM

There is one question that UNC needs to answer that will crucify them. All the 'Rogues', 'Outrage', 'No preferential treatment for athletes', etc be damned.

-How, in his first class as a college student and probably before stepping on campus, did Marvin Austin get enrolled in a 400 Swahili class that he did not have the pre-requisites for, and was later found to be one of these no-professor/no-work classes.

Once that answer is revealed, we need to understand the motivation for whomever signed him up for the class. Athletic dept pressure? Cash? Both?

I don't see how they can squirm out of this, but I wouldn't put it past them

5/11/2012 8:46:54 AM

The feeling that I'm getting that's coming from the top down is that they're already "done" with the investigations and punishments.

People could uncover something alarming like 75% of all the athletes in all the sports programs at UNC could potentially be deemed academically ineligible because they took these enroll and get an automatic A courses and I still feel it would be "handled internally", be an "isolated incident", and still pass the smell test with the BoG and BoT.

Forget about athletics. At this point I'm wondering how some of their colleges over there even get to retain accreditation.

[Edited on May 11, 2012 at 8:58 AM. Reason : -]

5/11/2012 8:57:35 AM

^ They may be done with it but I wonder what the good ole NCAA thinks about all of this. I am just waiting for them to pay another visit to Chapel Hell.

Prediction: UNC will soon be complaining of racism and will probably release figures on the racial makeup of the class. Then they will try to argue the only reason that so many athletes were in the class is because they were black.

[Edited on May 11, 2012 at 9:20 AM. Reason : prediction]

5/11/2012 9:17:19 AM

I wanna know if Beaker was signed up for this class.

[Edited on May 11, 2012 at 10:57 AM. Reason : Four yew grammer nazis]

5/11/2012 10:34:58 AM

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"I wanna know if Beeker was signed up for this class."

He has talked about taking Swahili at UNC before. Although he might have been in one of the classes that actually had class.

5/11/2012 10:41:01 AM

*beaker

5/11/2012 10:41:43 AM

It's pronounced the same. You know who I'm talking about.

5/11/2012 10:53:53 AM

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"BREAKING NEWS: The Orange County District Attorney has asked the State Bureau of Investigation to look into whether Professor Julius Nyang'oro, of the UNC Department of African and Afro-American Studies, was paid for classes he did not teach."

#popcorn

5/14/2012 12:22:54 PM

5/14/2012 12:26:59 PM

^^ awwwwwwwwwwww yeah.

5/14/2012 12:28:16 PM

where's the source link, Elwood?

5/14/2012 12:34:22 PM

front page of wral

5/14/2012 12:40:04 PM

5/14/2012 12:40:33 PM

it was BREAKING NEWS

link here now. http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/11099856/

5/14/2012 1:33:29 PM

[Edited on May 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM. Reason : .]

5/14/2012 1:35:09 PM

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"People could uncover something alarming like 75% of all the athletes in all the sports programs at UNC could potentially be deemed academically ineligible because they took these enroll and get an automatic A courses and I still feel it would be "handled internally", be an "isolated incident", and still pass the smell test with the BoG and BoT. Forget about athletics. At this point I'm wondering how some of their colleges over there even get to retain accreditation."

"Rising tide lifts all boats."

Guaranteed A classes exist everywhere. I remember at least when I was at State the "History of North Carolina" class had a reputation of giving out 100% A's.

5/14/2012 1:40:35 PM

I never took a class that had guaranteed A's. I did take a geology class that the teacher went over each question and answer on the test during the class before the test, so if you weren't a total dumbass and actually went to the class before testday, it was an easy A. But you had to attend that class, you had to take notes, and you had to memorize the notes.

5/14/2012 1:44:28 PM

Easy A classes are one thing. No class at all and students still get the credits is another.

5/14/2012 1:47:03 PM

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"I did take a geology class that the teacher went over each question and answer on the test during the class before the test"

Haha. I've heard the same thing for geology but they went to other schools, it was given the nickname "Rocks for Jocks".

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"Easy A classes are one thing. No class at all and students still get the credits is another."

Had an Asian English teacher at State that didn't show up for a single class for 3 weeks. Quite the joke as a professor but I didn't care for English so it's not like I complained.

The point of all this is accreditation isn't getting pulled for such bullshit. Is it a joke? Yeah, it is. But respectable people don't go around starting fires for the hell of it.

[Edited on May 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM. Reason : /]

5/14/2012 1:48:34 PM

in ma 302 we would go into class, get a lecture about matlab and then take a quiz that was identical to a study guide that was online. people would hand it in before he was done passing them all out. the homeworks were to change a few lines in a matlab code that he provided. it was as easy of an A as i can imagine.

but you still had to go to the class at least take the quiz, and the professor was still there every time, and you still had to actually turn in the matlab codes.

[Edited on May 14, 2012 at 1:55 PM. Reason : not saying these don't exist at ncsu, just saying a known easy a is different from this.]

5/14/2012 1:53:07 PM

^I think I had Scroggs for that. Good ole Scroggs.

5/14/2012 2:00:21 PM

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"I remember at least when I was at State the "History of North Carolina" class had a reputation of giving out 100% A's."

if it's the same one i took, it was an easy A because he basically gave you the answers to the tests in the lectures, but you still had to go to class, take notes, study notes, and regurgitate notes on the test.

as said above, easy A != 'free' A

5/14/2012 2:00:45 PM

yeah, I took the History of NC class my last semester. It's easy but definitely not a "show up, get an A automatically" class

5/14/2012 2:04:21 PM

Yeah, only morons (ie carolina fans) think that "everywhere has easy classes" is a valid argument. Nobody with any sense has an issue with the classes being easy, they just can be fake and fraudulent. It all goes back to fair play and competition. If you know you don't even have to show or that your grade will get modified, you have more time, energy, sanity, than your opponents.

5/14/2012 2:22:31 PM

I took the History of NC class and got an A but I remember studying a good amount for those tests. We also had to read Blood Done Sign My Name.

5/14/2012 2:29:06 PM

^ yup that was the class i took. i loved that class, haha

5/14/2012 2:31:38 PM

I completely forgot about ma 302. Such a joke.

5/14/2012 2:36:44 PM

SID RETROACTIVELY WON AN ACCT

[Edited on May 14, 2012 at 4:36 PM. Reason : hang a banner with an *]

5/14/2012 4:35:44 PM

5/14/2012 5:03:08 PM

Nothing's going to come of this

5/14/2012 5:47:37 PM

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"^ yup that was the class i took. i loved that class, haha"

hell yeah, me too
watching jeopardy one night, i was able to answer the final clue (State of Franklin) b/c of this class

5/14/2012 6:11:05 PM

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"Yeah, only morons (ie carolina fans) think that "everywhere has easy classes" is a valid argument. Nobody with any sense has an issue with the classes being easy, they just can be fake and fraudulent. It all goes back to fair play and competition. If you know you don't even have to show or that your grade will get modified, you have more time, energy, sanity, than your opponents."

yeah, every school has easy classes set up for athletes, most schools don't call themselves a "public ivy"

also most schools don't follow this ridiculous three step program

1. come up with honor code, just like all other schools
2. call it "the carolina way" and act as if it is sacred and unique
3. regularly violate the fuck out of it and obstruct anyone who asks for transparency

5/14/2012 7:06:06 PM

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"Nothing's going to come of this "

5/14/2012 7:11:11 PM

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"Yeah, only morons (ie carolina fans) think that "everywhere has easy classes" is a valid argument. Nobody with any sense has an issue with the classes being easy, they just can be fake and fraudulent."

From what I've seen on IC, most of the posters are completely unaware that the classes are fake.

5/14/2012 7:13:05 PM

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""On Friday, Chancellor Thorp and I instructed the UNC-Chapel Hill Department of Public Safety to contact the SBI to report possible criminal activity stemming from concerns about a payment made to Professor Nyang'oro for a 2011 summer school course," Ross said in a statement Monday. "We understand that the local district attorney also contacted the SBI on Friday. Reporting to the SBI was the right thing to do given the circumstances."

It's good that UNC contacted the SBI before the DA did. That shows that they care.

I thought just a few days ago they didnt think it necessary to take further action???

5/14/2012 8:01:52 PM

^ Yea, they said that...then the media picked up on it so they had to back track and act like they actually give a shit to cover their own asses

5/14/2012 8:06:55 PM

5/14/2012 8:25:50 PM