lol and there you go

Tree was trying to not be a dick but now you just made it easy on him


OUr best most dedicated fan has thrown in the towel and wants to tank the rest of the season

[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 12:25 AM. Reason : 218 pages of fail]

1/12/2011 12:24:48 AM

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"N. Carolina St. 66 @ Boston College 75 (Final)"

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"CLOSE LOSS"

[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 12:56 AM. Reason : n. carolina st? wtf espn]

1/12/2011 12:56:23 AM

?

1/12/2011 1:06:23 AM

I still think the people that think Sidney Lowe is a good coach are actually retarded

or delusional

wonder what they will say when he gets fired (either a few months from now or 12-14 months from now)

1/12/2011 1:21:18 AM

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"I still think the people that think Sidney Lowe is a good coach are actually retarded or delusional"

that about sums it up.

how the hell anyone can watch one of his clusterfuck teams and see any semblance of hope is beyond me.

new cast of characters, same horrendous mistakes, same scoring droughts, same horrible fundamentals exhibited, same "wtf" lineup decisions.

when he doesn't make the tournament, again, we'll finally be rid of Sidney Lowe and his comedy of errors.

1/12/2011 5:26:10 AM

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"wonder what they will say when he gets fired (either a few months from now or 12-14 months from now) "

They will think that Debbie Yow should be fired for getting rid of him.

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"how the hell anyone can watch one of his clusterfuck teams and see any semblance of hope is beyond me. new cast of characters, same horrendous mistakes, same scoring droughts, same horrible fundamentals exhibited, same "wtf" lineup decisions. when he doesn't make the tournament, again, we'll finally be rid of Sidney Lowe and his comedy of errors. "

This....Lowe has got to go. I think the thing that pisses me off more than anything is simply our lack of effort, especially on defense and attacking the boards. The guys look like they could care less about defense, I'm not sure if there is a team more lazy on defense than us. Maybe Lowe will realize this isn't the NBA and defense is a requirement in college basketball.

1/12/2011 7:00:38 AM

what have I been telling you fucking carpetbaggers for years? oh yeah




LOWE SUCKS

1/12/2011 8:19:48 AM

Well that was disappointing. Its frustrating because we finally have a very talented team that is balanced with good guards and big men, a couple shooters, and decent depth. In my opinion our only con is experience, but after seeing what underclassmen have been doing in the NCAA for the past 10+ years, I think its definitely something we should be able to overcome. And you see glimpses or games (Wake) where you can see what kind of team we can be...but we definitely don't seem to be able to pull that off consistently right now.

I've never been that high on Lowe's coaching abilities and my only hope for the program for him at the helm would be that he would continue to improve into a good coach. Games like the Wake game give me hope (although they're garbage), but games like last night reaffirm my doubts. Not playing CJW more and taking Harrow out were head-scratchers. Would we have won the game had those things been done?? Probably not...but it sure as hell didn't help.

That was definitely a winnable game. We had a three-point lead and huge momentum with 6 minutes left and went completely cold after that. Frustrating.

1/12/2011 8:24:52 AM

most unrealistic fan base ever.


Every single loss


MELTDOWN

1/12/2011 8:38:05 AM

It's not just one loss. You see something in this team and Coach Lowe and that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But you of all people, being one of Sendek's biggest detractors, really can't see why people are upset? We are seeing almost all of the same fatal flaws that his past teams have had in this team. Yes, we are inexperienced. I get that. But we have a top class and in this era of college basketball well coached teams have overcome experience and won games like this.

And for those of you who were all gung-ho about the possibility of having Brown and Harrow together for four years instead of getting 'Zo in here immediately to get experience -- well there you go. We would be an exponentially better team if Lorenzo Brown was at State last year and went through the ACC once already.

1/12/2011 8:46:54 AM

^^ Oh cmon... who's really not being realistic? You are just in denial. Or perhaps you've just become numb to all the losses?

past 5 years

ACC Standings:
+-----+
|all ....|
|other.|
|teams|
| ...... |
+-----+
|NCSU|
+-----+

[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 8:52 AM. Reason : .]

1/12/2011 8:47:40 AM

^^ We would be better this year if Lorenzo was here last year of course.

On the flip side we'll be better their senior year this way.


We lost to a solid team on the road.

MELLLLLTDOWN

1/12/2011 8:51:50 AM

face, what year do you think we'll be competing for a National Championship? Because you do know that's the goal right?

[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 8:54 AM. Reason : right]

1/12/2011 8:54:35 AM

It's hard to pinpoint the exact year but if you are asking me do I think Sid can compete for national titles then the answer is yes.

He's proven he can bring in big name recruits and he was in the running for uber-recruits John Wall, Derrick Favors, and DeMarcus Cousins.

He's also proven he can beat the best teams in the nation (Duke and UNC) with far inferior rosters.

So, I'm not sure what you're going for here but yes I think Sid gives us a chance to win it all one day.

1/12/2011 9:04:40 AM

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"He's proven he can bring in big name recruits and he was in the running for uber-recruits John Wall, Derrick Favors, and DeMarcus Cousins."

Being in the top 5-7 doesn't necessarily mean "in the running." I don't remember feeling like we had a decent shot at any of those guys.

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"He's also proven he can beat the best teams in the nation (Duke and UNC) with far inferior rosters. "

You mean like Les Robinson??

1/12/2011 9:16:41 AM

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"He's also proven he can beat the best teams in the nation (Duke and UNC) with far inferior rosters."

Huh? He's 3-12 against them. That's pretty close to the same winning % as Herb had. Since his first year he hasn't beaten UNC and has beaten Duke once.

Looking at this team and roster and saying we can compete for national titles within 2-3 years is absurd...

[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 9:24 AM. Reason : it's not like we have elite recruits following up this class either]

1/12/2011 9:23:46 AM

I wish we could get Coach K or Calipari to come in and coach our team for like two weeks. Like a college basketball boot camp with Sidney on the side taking notes. We would probably be a 1 or 2 loss team at this point if we were coached by one of those guys

1/12/2011 9:32:49 AM

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"if you are asking me do I think Sid can compete for national titles then the answer is yes."

Am I getting punk'd here or something? The man can't even dredge us from the ACC cellar.

For us to even win a single ACC game on the road the stars have to align twice in the same night, hell has got to freeze over, Scott Wood has to hit 80% of his 3's, and the rest of team has to be in a state of Nirvana. Edit: OH yeah, and the other team has to play like COMPLETE ass.

I mean seriously! HOLY SHIT! You are talking about Sid can coach us to a National Title? EL OH MOTHERFUCKING EL.

[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 10:00 AM. Reason : ]]

1/12/2011 9:49:45 AM

Hey has anyone else noticed that Lorenzo is ripped as hell?

1/12/2011 9:51:30 AM

if y'all haven't figured out that rallydurham's alias is a schtick by now, just leave sports talk.

stop arguing with him, he's not serious at all. it's just run of the mill trolling.



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^^ that and a well coached team will win us some games.

[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 9:58 AM. Reason : .]

1/12/2011 9:57:07 AM

Jesus we were widely considered the leader for cousins until the very end and favors narrowed it down to GT and NC state before he selected.

How much closer does it need to get before I'm allowed to say we were in the running for someone

1/12/2011 10:50:48 AM

recruiting moral victories

definitely a good reason to keep your coach around

1/12/2011 11:47:07 AM

actually, a lot of succses in college basketball is dependent on good recruiting, so even though you're trying to be sarcastic, rgood ecruiting can be a good reason to keep your coach around. of course, there are other factors too.

oh yeah, i forgot to mention, it's our 2nd ACC game. quit being a douche and let the season play out a little more.

1/12/2011 12:00:47 PM

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"But we have a top class and in this era of college basketball well coached teams have overcome experience and won games like this."

The teams that do this have solid rosters behind them. We're still a star PG and a lot of experience from having that. I think they said on ESPN last night that eight of our scholly players are underclassmen. That's fuckin young.

Lowe has finally gotten some top tier talent in here (more than Sendek did for us, and I was always ok with him - minus his shitty shitty offensive scheme). He's got more top tier talent coming in over the next couple of years. Our roster is very near having all the pieces.

When the alternative is sacking Lowe, losing the recruits, begging anyone who will take the job to come be the next coach (with hearty helpings of getting laughed at by prospects), and going back to square one.... I believe we should stick with Lowe.

1/12/2011 12:02:46 PM

I'm pretty sure most of the naysayers would start bitching about our new coach soon after he took the reigns. Or they'd be repeating the same excuses the Lowe-defenders* are offering now.

*(and that's a loose term, but by "lowe-defender" I'm basically referring to those who think its idiotic to talk about firing a coach 2 games into ACC play)

1/12/2011 12:07:44 PM

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"WIDELY CONSIDERED LEADER"

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"WOLFPACK HOOPS"

[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 12:38 PM. Reason : only guy on BCs roster that would start on this team is reggie jackson...think about that]

1/12/2011 12:35:09 PM

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"Lowe has finally gotten some top tier talent in here (more than Sendek did for us, and I was always ok with him - minus his shitty shitty offensive scheme). "

That isn't entirely accurate. This class is about equivalent in rankings to the Hodge class. People forget that Levi Watkins would have been a VERY, VERY good college player except for that awful ACL injury that he never completely got over. The Costner class was also very highly recruited, but not like this one.

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"He's got more top tier talent coming in over the next couple of years."

Not really. Tyler Harris is a system guy, not an impact player. Tyler Lewis is a decent PG recruit but nothing amazing. Uchebo is barely a Top 75 guy, but has a nice ceiling.

None of these guys are can't miss studs and none of them will likely be impact players as freshmen.

1/12/2011 1:05:32 PM

lowe will be on hot seat after this season no matter what

1/12/2011 1:12:05 PM

I just heard on the radio that we have taken TWO CHARGES all year.

2.

lol

great defensive fundamentals

1/12/2011 1:13:34 PM

Haha that's amazing

1/12/2011 1:16:46 PM

we've never been a team to take charges under Lowe.. when Javi (i think it was him) took one yesterday I about shit my pants

1/12/2011 1:20:02 PM

i'm a big lowe defender and javi apologist, but last night was bad and i'm not jumping to conclusions. Actually it was going great but Javi consistently had defensive lapses. The shot clock violation was just inexcusable though, his head was NOT in the game.

I think we should relax a little, let the season play out, see how we're doing towards the end of the year, but if it keeps up, DEFINITELY on the hot seat.

1/12/2011 1:28:08 PM

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"lowe will be on hot seat after this season no matter what"

lowe will likely be fired after this season if yesterday's game is an indication of how this team is going to perform.

1/12/2011 1:29:28 PM

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" let the season play out"

1/12/2011 1:32:07 PM

noone is going to fire him before the season, we all can recognize the quality of basketball that is being played currently

let it play out, and then a decision will be made

but feel free to keep having an apoplexy after every loss. we get it.

1/12/2011 2:31:36 PM

RECRUITING MORAL VICTORIES

THE STAGE IS SET

FOR 4 ACC WINS



[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 2:35 PM. Reason : .]

1/12/2011 2:32:24 PM

im glad you are having so much fun

1/12/2011 2:42:42 PM

we should just hire hodge

1/12/2011 2:48:18 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tie0tz7jGDI&feature=related

1/12/2011 2:48:26 PM

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"Not really. Tyler Harris is a system guy, not an impact player. Tyler Lewis is a decent PG recruit but nothing amazing. Uchebo is barely a Top 75 guy, but has a nice ceiling."

Uchebo is currently ranked 8 at his position

Lewis is ranked 12 at PG.... Just like Harrow, and look how much better he is than what we have right now.

Harris is 25 at PF, which is not as high but you can't hit gold with everyone. Howell and Painter were 16 and 20 at their positions, and they can produce when they aren't being forced to play the 5 spot.

We've got more people coming in, and we're playing mostly good basketball. No one can come into this program and win us a national championship in half a decade. we've got too much turn around that needs to be made. Baby steps, I believe we'll get there with Lowe.

1/12/2011 2:50:48 PM

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"we're playing mostly good basketball"

you must be forgetting that defense is a part of basketball

1/12/2011 3:01:46 PM

maybe he was talking about the first 35 minutes of the game

1/12/2011 3:02:56 PM

^What about the shitty first half??

I could nitpick on a lot of things, but I'm pretty disappointed in how we seem to come out flat for EVERY game. We end up digging ourselves out of holes even against shitty teams.

1/12/2011 3:04:45 PM

we were up 3 points with like 4:30 to go

to me, thats an acceptable first 35 minutes

1/12/2011 3:12:19 PM

You are only looking at the scoreboard. not scoring doesn't necessarily mean they were playing like shit. They got a lot of good looks in the first half, even early on, and just didn't finish the shots. It was a focus issue, not an effort issue.

We could have won a game against a team everyone expects to be number 2 in the ACC on the road, had (admittedly) Lowe not tried to save Harrow by resting him in the last couple of minutes. Mistakes get made, I can bet Javi doesn't finish the next game, Lowe will leave him in and/or change up the sub rotations to account for him. Our defense broke down some, but BC had some of the best offensive movement I've seen us play against this year. We know Leslie has a habit of leaving his guys to run out on the perimeter for open shots, it's something he has to learn. Also, we missed some rebounds, and some just went over us, but overall we played pretty decent. That Reggie guy is the sickness, though. I don't know if there is a guy who can hang with him one on one, but I digress...

1/12/2011 3:14:04 PM

We were down 26-28 at the half.

I'm pretty sure there are a few posters on here that really are borderline retarded. Seriously.

1/12/2011 3:15:18 PM

sidney lowe - not credible

1/12/2011 3:17:30 PM

who in the fuck expects Boston College to be 2nd in the ACC?

the excuses get dumber by the minute

1/12/2011 3:21:39 PM

Boston College is 1st in the ACC

1/12/2011 3:29:45 PM

NC State is doomed at 1-1, but Boston College couldn't possibly finish high in a down ACC at 3-0

1/12/2011 3:35:43 PM