Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Not that I know of, though a number of developers have consolidated large pieces of property with the intent of developing/rebuilding.
Unfortunately, it's a lot harder to borrow money for such projects now so many are on hold. 8/8/2010 8:11:43 PM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
I think the city feels like it fixed the "street" and "traffic flow" situation with this renovation. The lions share of the revitalization will have to come from private enterprise, and banks that are willing to fund projects, restaurants, retail, etc. 8/8/2010 9:50:24 PM |
Misha All American 881 Posts user info edit post |
The new Noodle and Dumpling shop is awesome, I went for lunch today.
Food is reasonably priced, delicious, and the service was great.
A+ will go again! 8/8/2010 10:40:46 PM |
pawprint All American 5203 Posts user info edit post |
My fiance was in the outer lane, attempting to go straight through the big round about near the belltower when this guy comes flying straight through from the center lane and almost hit us broadside. It was stressful. 8/8/2010 11:51:27 PM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ That is true. The street looks a lot nicer, but won't be truly revitalized until they get some new businesses in there that will draw people on Friday and Saturday night. Whatever new businesses that would want to go there though have to get through all the ordinances that the Hillsborough neighborhoods has in place.
I hope that along with that Stanhope project, North Hall can get some major renovations done to make it a more attractive option. Putting more student housing over there would help out as well. 8/9/2010 12:43:53 AM |
SkiSalomon All American 4264 Posts user info edit post |
I agree that the street looks really nice and I commend the city for it but the eyesores that are nearly every building across from the university really detracts from their hard work. I hope that the private sector can truly complete the revitalization in the near future. 8/9/2010 12:48:32 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " The City of Raleigh shared the following information regarding Hillsborough Street parking. I know we are all very excited about the completion of the project and our new "front door" to campus.
Parking Enforcement: Pay stations (parking meters) and space numbers have been installed and tested, but are covered with bags and go into service when the regulatory 2-hour metered parking signs are installed - anticipated by August 13.
Two hour metered parking will be in effect on Hillsborough Street from Maiden Lane to Brooks Avenue. The City hopes to create turnover of parking spaces to benefit Hillsborough Street businesses. The parking rate at the new pay stations is $1/hr up to a maximum of two hours. The meters accept both coin and credit card (Visa / Mastercard) transactions. Repeat metering is not permitted and citations will be issued for exceeding the 2-hr time limit - $20 fine.
City-employed Field Agents are equipped with handheld ticket-writers that communicate with the new pay stations so they immediately know when a space has expired and how much time was purchased. Photos are taken of every vehicle issued a citation for identification purposes.
Parking in residential neighborhoods north of Hillsborough Street
Please remind students that most of the residential areas north of Hillsborough Street are under a Residential Permit program 24/7 which requires that no vehicle may park on the street for longer than two (2) hours without a valid residential permit. Signs are posted to this effect on every residential street that is under the program; continuously patrolled and enforced.
Note: A better low-cost commuter alternative is a Varsity Commuter Permit, $99 for the academic year, two bus routes - one new express route (Varsity Rt. 5a) with service to the core campus (D. H. Hill Library area) every eleven minutes.
Accessible Parking
Under a revised ordinance approved by City Council in February, 2010, while people with mobility issues (those possessing an accessible parking placard from the Department of Motor Vehicles) are still permitted to park for an unlimited amount of time at City parking meters, they must now pay for on-street parking. Users can press a button on the pay stations that allows them to bypass the time-limit restriction and pay for as much time as they need.
City of Raleigh verbiage: A $100 fine will be issued to any vehicle parked under handicapped time without a valid handicapped placard displayed in the vehicle. " |
8/10/2010 11:29:01 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
lol at calling them "field agents" 8/10/2010 11:35:14 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
I'm coming down for the Western game ... excited to see the new street and roundabouts. Wish someone would do some touch-up work on the barber shop next to Bell Tower Mart. A new coat of paint would go a long way there.
Can we get some new pics up here for the out-of-towners? 8/10/2010 1:23:47 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I've heard that the whole building is going to be retouched with a wrecking ball. 8/10/2010 2:12:03 PM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
Can we get some new pics up here for the out-of-towners? 8/10/2010 5:21:42 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
I'm going to be on-campus Thursday. I'll try to remember to bring my camera 8/10/2010 6:15:30 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Thank God. They could keep the wrecking ball going all the way to the North dorms for all I care. 8/10/2010 8:27:51 PM |
modlin All American 2642 Posts user info edit post |
I was out there this weekend. They aren't really pics of the roundabout area, but they're close, and I got 'em now.
Not the roundabout
8/10/2010 8:31:27 PM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
Knocking down that barber shop is a good start. A lot of buildings up and down Hillsborough need to be redone and they need pretty badly to get some more attractive businesses in there. I heard they're redoing the North Dorms soon also. Hopefully with the Stanhope Project thing going up and new North Dorms, there can be more students up and down the street. 8/10/2010 11:56:31 PM |
tl All American 8430 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Wow, that 2nd picture is amazing. I barely recognize it. 8/11/2010 10:39:21 AM |
magdalena All American 7827 Posts user info edit post |
I love the roundabouts at least in theory, but I'll be hella glad when people learn how to drive through them.
That being said, I did have a hard time when my mental map was turned around and I was approaching that ^^^ roundabout (2nd photo). I had thought I was coming from another direction and got a free trip around the roundabout to orient myself.
fun times.
[Edited on August 14, 2010 at 12:32 AM. Reason : carats] 8/14/2010 12:32:02 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Drove the roundabout for the first time last week. Idiot chick in front of me came to a full stop even though no one was in the circle when we were approaching it Had to lay the horn smack down on her ass. 8/15/2010 8:17:41 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
I'd rather someone be extra cautious while approaching an unfamiliar traffic pattern than to blindly haul ass through it without understanding the dynamics. 8/15/2010 9:11:03 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Not if your ass is sitting there like you're waiting for a light to turn green like she was. 8/15/2010 9:25:54 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/08/16/630886/many-are-pleased-some-arent-so.html
Quote : | "The end of construction on Hillsborough Street is eliciting mixed reactions from merchants, motorists and pedestrians.
The revamped road features several changes, most notably the single lane running in each direction. Also added are two new roundabouts near N.C. State University, wider sidewalks, center medians and new parking spaces. Further east, a third roundabout replaces the Y-shaped junction with Morgan Street.
John Moyer, owner of Shakedown Street, a music pub that fronts the thoroughfare, said he is pleased by the additions. The Knightdale resident has faced unusual challenges since opening his pub in January, namely finding parking for bands to unload their equipment before concerts.
Moyer said he hopes decreased traffic backups on the road will make it easier for bands to park temporarily and unpack their instruments.
"The roundabouts are a great design," Moyer said. "Once people get used to them, traffic will flow so much better. It is visually a 100 percent improvement."
Other businesses, like Hillsborough Street Textbooks, still face challenges even if traffic moves at a faster pace down the street. Store manager Christine Murray, a Raleigh resident, said stocking her shop with large book shipments may prove problematic in the future because of the road's new one-lane status.
"Just making the road smaller is silly to me," she said. "Eighteen-wheelers make our deliveries, and they don't have room to park."
The new brick medians offer a refuge for NCSU students crossing the street as they will no longer be forced to brave four lanes of traffic. Patrick Easters, an engineering sophomore, said he feels safer with the new crosswalks in place.
"I can access the local businesses by campus without getting hit," he said. "I feel like I can experience more of Raleigh now."
Joslyn Brenton, a graduate student in sociology, said she no longer gets trapped in traffic while riding her motorized scooter. In particular, she is happy that traffic backups no longer occur near Hillsborough Street and Oberlin Road, thanks to the new roundabout.
"In the grand scheme of things, the construction was a temporary inconvenience," Brenton said. "I'm totally psyched about the new arrangements here."
Others are skeptical the road's changes will bring positive results. Mark Pool, a Raleigh resident and avid bicyclist, said he rides on Hillsborough five or six days a week to pick up organic products from Global Village Organic Coffee, across from campus.
With Hillsborough still without designated bicycle lanes until fall, he said, he worries he will get in another accident like the three he has suffered elsewhere. Pool broke his right femur in a collision near Cameron Village, and he also shattered both wrists after going over the hood of a vehicle in the same area.
"It is still dangerous to bike Hillsborough Street, so at times I ride the sidewalk," Pool said while straddling his 26-year-old Diamond Back bike. "Those are sidewalks, not side rides."
Kate Owens, a Smithfield resident who commutes to Creative Tees & Imaging on the street, said her drive seems easier with construction finished.
"Now it is wider, bigger and easier to get around," she said.
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[Edited on August 16, 2010 at 7:59 AM. Reason : ol]8/16/2010 7:58:52 AM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " "It is still dangerous to bike Hillsborough Street, so at times I ride the sidewalk," Pool said while straddling his 26-year-old Diamond Back bike. "Those are sidewalks, not side rides."" |
I see what he did there.
I know that State has bought some property on Hillsborough Street so that in the coming months/years they can demolish some of the older buildings and put up newer ones to attract better and nicer businesses. The only thing the street needs know is for the businesses to update their store fronts and for more businesses to open. If those don't happen then all this street renovation is a huge waste of money.8/16/2010 11:46:28 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
I can't help but think that biker probably doesn't follow traffic laws if he's managed to be in that many serious accidents. 8/16/2010 12:31:06 PM |
SkiSalomon All American 4264 Posts user info edit post |
^ and also evidenced by his admission to riding on sidewalks. 8/16/2010 1:24:54 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I was in Raleigh today and decided to give the Hillsborough roundabout a try. Heading south from Oberlin, I entered the outer lane as a dude in an Expedition entered the inner lane, also from Oberlin. My target was to head west on Hillsborough, so just a quarter of the circle, in and out. But Expedition Man decided to just cut straight the fuck across my lane, from the inner lane straight onto Hillsborough. Traffic down Hillsborough was awful, but I hope that's just because of the start of the semester. Sidewalks were nice, storefronts still shitty. 8/16/2010 8:33:15 PM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
^Thats what happens pretty much everytime. Someone cuts from the inside to the outside and almost hits the person on the outside. 8/16/2010 8:45:27 PM |
modlin All American 2642 Posts user info edit post |
It's move-in time too, right? so it's gonna be haywire for a bit.
http://media2.newsobserver.com/smedia/2010/08/14/10/HILLSBOROUGHstreet0816.source.prod_affiliate.156.pdf 8/16/2010 9:37:43 PM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
at first i was a bit annoyed by people who stop rather than yield, but i have found myself stopping unless the coast is completely clear.
i have found that while the people in the circle IN THEORY have right of way because they are in the circle and already adhering to the pattern of the lines, the reality is that you need to yield because they might as well be driving through with both hands out the sunroof screaming in terror, because it's like the lines aren't even there. best to just wait. 8/17/2010 3:24:32 PM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
Almost got sideswiped again today. I don't understand. There's a picture telling you that you have to go left on the inside lane (heading west). I think we need a giant flashing sign and people offering to hold your hand as you drive through. Or maybe valet roundabout navigation. 8/17/2010 4:28:28 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
i think it's time for another guerrilla art piece that has a giant sign that says STAY IN YOUR LANE and it shoots your car with a paintgun if you don't 8/17/2010 6:35:40 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I had a good laugh at the severed front bumper sitting in the middle of the Morgan St traffic circle earlier this evening. 8/17/2010 10:41:15 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Or maybe valet roundabout navigation." |
hahaha8/17/2010 11:10:56 PM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
heard from two different people that the morgan street roundabout was done incorrectly (concrete fail) and has to be redone.
for what it's worth, it was done by a different contractor than the one who did the rest of the street (ham omelet)
[Edited on August 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM. Reason : -] 8/18/2010 4:52:32 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like the Electric Co building is getting a Pink Berry knockoff called "Fresh Berry".
Not to be confused with the "LaBerry" I found in Savannah last month or the "YoFrutt" I found in Chapel Hill over the weekend. 8/23/2010 10:43:28 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
my god, enough with the cutesy stuff... please, create more eateries that aren't pizza or sit down fast-food 8/24/2010 8:54:35 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
somebody needs to open a rooftop patio, pronto!
Porters has been talking about it for quite a while, but that plan seems to have stalled 8/24/2010 9:08:21 AM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
I had thought the one at Porter's was going forward--the gf talked to someone who waits tables there earlier in the summer and that person had told her it was in progress. Did they start then stop?
Disappointing if so. I was looking forward to being able to enjoy some NC pints while looking over Hillsborough Street from a lofty perch. 8/24/2010 9:35:23 AM |
DPK All American 2390 Posts user info edit post |
We need some alumni with a vision and deep pockets to make some cool stuff happen. 8/24/2010 12:18:06 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
IIRC ^5 considered doing one on glenwood south with a beer garden, right where that ale house is supposedly going 8/24/2010 1:06:09 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Mitch's
although we definitely need more than just one place
[Edited on August 24, 2010 at 1:11 PM. Reason : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^] 8/24/2010 1:10:31 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My target was to head west on Hillsborough, so just a quarter of the circle, in and out. But Expedition Man decided to just cut straight the fuck across my lane" |
I made the Expedition's mistake by accidently being in the inner lane when I only needed to make a 1/4 turn. I did not want to be "THAT" asshole so instead of swerving off onto Hillsbourgh street, I *GASP ZOMG took an extra ride on the loop such that I was on the outside by the time my circle complete. What is so fucking hard for people to understand that it takes 10 whole seconds (at most) to just go around again. Instead from my experience people would rather being asshats that cut someone off or stop trying to reverse back to get out of the circle.
[Edited on August 24, 2010 at 2:07 PM. Reason : a]8/24/2010 2:06:44 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Saw this this afternoon:
The black car hit a white mustang in the side. I assume someone missed the yield sign.
And for fucks sake, move your car. 8/24/2010 3:42:43 PM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
nice trikey man 8/24/2010 4:12:30 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
This saturday some dame was on the inner lane when she wanted to go west on hillsborough and she nearly hit me while i was on the outside lane. I honked but she didn't even notice. She then nearly side swiped someone else by almost turning left on kilgore and then coming back onto hillsborough street so she can make it to dan allen. 8/25/2010 9:44:14 AM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I made the Expedition's mistake by accidently being in the inner lane when I only needed to make a 1/4 turn. I did not want to be "THAT" asshole so instead of swerving off onto Hillsbourgh street, I *GASP ZOMG took an extra ride on the loop such that I was on the outside by the time my circle complete. What is so fucking hard for people to understand that it takes 10 whole seconds (at most) to just go around again. Instead from my experience people would rather being asshats that cut someone off or stop trying to reverse back to get out of the circle. " |
Yeah, it is that small moment of panic where a smart driver will just relax and take the extra time to go back around, and a moron/female driver will go berserk and risk an accident to make the turn RIGHT NOW!!!!!8/25/2010 10:56:12 AM |
Misha All American 881 Posts user info edit post |
Frazier’s Wine Bar Now Open (Reopen) on Hillsborough Street 8/25/2010 11:05:21 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We need some alumni with a vision and deep pockets to make some cool stuff happen. " |
I have a vision, I just don't have deep pockets 8/25/2010 1:23:26 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I have deep pockets, but there is no money in them. 8/25/2010 1:42:48 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Coming soon: http://www.freshberry.net/ 8/27/2010 2:07:09 PM |
ncsujen07 All American 1469 Posts user info edit post |
http://hillsboroughstreet.org/event/
Anyone know what the beer garden will consist of and if it's worth $20? 9/18/2010 2:46:59 PM |