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"Evans has a stronger and more accurate arm than Beck, but Beck was the one actually pulling the trigger so the nod goes to him."

you have got to be kidding

9/1/2007 10:42:40 PM

Give our team time I believe we will only get better. Have some faith everyone. Its a little early to start jumping off the bandwagon

9/1/2007 10:42:59 PM

^^it's really a pointless argument, because Evans consistently turned down opportunities to display strength and accuracy by not throwing the damn ball

[Edited on September 1, 2007 at 10:45 PM. Reason : and no, Evans doesn't have the stronger arm]

9/1/2007 10:44:15 PM

Beck made plays when it counted, Evans didn't. End of story. I will bet you $100 right now that Evans doesn't see another start and will be damn lucky to get any mop-up duties if/when needed.

[Edited on September 1, 2007 at 10:47 PM. Reason : ]

9/1/2007 10:46:48 PM

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"^^it's really a pointless argument, because Evans consistently turned down opportunities to display strength and accuracy by not throwing the damn ball"

i wasn't talking so much about accuracy . . . more the strength

it seems to me like that concussion last year really got to evans. before then he was taking more throws with pressure and after then he looks like a dear in the headlights when anyone is near him.

9/1/2007 10:50:53 PM

The good thing about beck is that he is so fucking fat, they won't even think about bootlegging him

[Edited on September 1, 2007 at 10:52 PM. Reason : and he might be able to throw a block]

9/1/2007 10:51:49 PM

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"^^it's really a pointless argument, because Evans consistently turned down opportunities to display strength and accuracy by not throwing the damn ball "

I agree...seemed like Evans was playing too afraid to make a mistake.

9/1/2007 10:55:37 PM

Evans is a fucking loser. He only knows how to make timing plays and he sucks at that even.

9/1/2007 10:59:16 PM

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"But he couldn't hit a reciever down the field to save his life."

As others have said, at least Beck TOOK shots down the field. There's a reason the running game opened up in the second half -- the UCF safeties had to honor the deep ball. With Evans, they were playing 6-8 yards from the LOS.

Beck is far from perfect, but DAMN it's good to see a QB stand up strong in the pocket and find the open man while under pressure. Sharp contrast to the Evans "duck and roll" technique (not to mention the Stone tuck-and-run philosophy).

And your either blind or retarded if you think Evan's arm is stronger than Beck's. Nothing against Evans, but Beck has one of the stronger arms I've seen on the college level.

9/1/2007 11:02:48 PM

on a side note, someone fire that damn mic guy. We got rid of mean gene and now we have this annoying fart.

9/1/2007 11:09:35 PM

evans and the punter need to leave

9/1/2007 11:19:57 PM

yeah that new guy with the loudspeakers is just as bad

One thing I liked was TOB made the entire team stay on the field and listen to the band play the Alma Mater after the game ended. I've got a lot of respect for him for even acknowledging what we do, which is more than I can say for the chest

I also liked how we actually made adjustments that worked between halves instead of running the same old bullshit that never worked in the first place like most of last year. I still have some hope for this season after seeing how TOB and his staff changed things up leading to a 20 pt half.

But that was some nc state shit right there.

9/1/2007 11:25:30 PM

Our O-line and D-line is what lost us this game in the 1st half. No protection for Evans and blocking for a running game. Also, they ran ALL over us in the 1st half. Our O-line and D-line coaches better get this shit fixed asap. Overall, despite the loss, we showed what we are capable of. It was fun seeing CF alive and excited.

Biggest Positive: NC State fans

9/1/2007 11:26:45 PM

gg Beck

Im glad we have a quarterback now.... no question about his mental toughness in the pocket tonight...

he just has a cannon and overthrows the recievers (Evans always underthrew)

9/1/2007 11:38:07 PM

I was actually pretty damn impressed with the game.

The adjustments made at halftime were quite simply stunning.

0 points allowed in the second half, the defense showed up BIG TIME after halftime, bunkered down and showed how a 1A defense should operate.

Beck at quarterback absolutely changed the look of our offense. We can run respectably and still have the deep threat with a good head on the QB. Yea we lost, but lets be honest, this is going to be a 7-5 season at BEST. I'm all about watching us build this year and see the changes of TOB start to really take hold with the players.

9/1/2007 11:40:09 PM

It was nice to see at least *most* of the student section understand being quiet on offense. The hand sign was a nice touch, too. Most of the people who were still being loud on offense caught on when they saw the hand wolf signs later in the game.

9/1/2007 11:40:34 PM

be careful w/ the whole 'now we have a qb' talk. people said that last year w/ evans, too.

with that said, i beck looked alright.

9/1/2007 11:42:23 PM

The difference is that Beck was a high recruit out of high school. He is a better player than Evans is.

9/1/2007 11:43:37 PM

I don't see us switching back to Evans or to Burke. Like it or not, we have Beck now.

9/1/2007 11:44:35 PM

Also did you notive how many stupid penalties we had? Not many. And no meathead facemask/unsportsmanlike calls. A couple of holding, a couple of false starts and a couple of substitution infractions.

I'm fine with the offense penalities, it's a new, young line and they are learning the ropes. Just a joy not to see 100+ penalty yards, for the first time in years it seems.

9/1/2007 11:45:37 PM

wasn't really quite when they should have been. Band needs to figure out that just because we're in the huddle doesn't mean everyone should be noisy and then quite when we get up to the line.

9/1/2007 11:46:06 PM

^the difference is that Beck was hitting receivers over the middle tonite where as the only throws evans was completing last year were the ones where his receivers were just out jumping the DB's and taking it away from them.

9/1/2007 11:46:20 PM

how full did the upper deck student section get?

9/1/2007 11:49:21 PM

pretty damn full, i was up there and it was as packed as i've ever seen for a first game

9/1/2007 11:51:09 PM

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"Also did you notive how many stupid penalties we had?"

there was that one PF on the o-lineman (i think it was #66 Yomi Ojo)

[Edited on September 1, 2007 at 11:56 PM. Reason : ^just asking since it looked really empty from down below at the start of the game.]

9/1/2007 11:55:54 PM

^hmm must have missed that one

yea, i was pretty damn impressed by the turnout considering its labor day weekend and it was a non-conference game

9/2/2007 12:02:45 AM

Overall the fans cheered smart tonight.

The TD to start the game for UCF sucked out all of our emotion, but we were extra loud on all 3rd downs, and when inspired the the 2nd half, we never let up.

Only point of improvement is to be a little bit more quiet while we are on offense. I know the comeback attempt was crazy, but we were WAYYYY too loud while we were in the huddles.

The band and the cheer leaders kept getting the students all loud too often while we were in the huddles. I'm not hating on the band, b/c you guys are awesome. Just saying...

Also, we had 10 penalties for 67 yards... i will be expecting a TOB coached team to fix this.

[Edited on September 2, 2007 at 12:08 AM. Reason : ]

9/2/2007 12:07:09 AM

i liked the way the band went out on the field tonight. That was fun.

Overall, the student section cheered smarter tonight.

The new mic man sucks as much as the old. As i've said before, its not the guy, its the position. Please, if anyone with any power reads this, GET RID OF THE MIC MAN!!! HES USELESS, WE NEVER DO ANY OF HIS CHEERS!!!

9/2/2007 12:16:28 AM

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"^the difference is that Beck was hitting receivers over the middle tonite where as the only throws evans was completing last year were the ones where his receivers were just out jumping the DB's and taking it away from them."

beck also overthrew or inaccurately threw at least 5 passes to wide open receiver 15+ yards down the field

but i'd rather us air out the ball than dump it 2 yards

9/2/2007 12:25:42 AM

the band can be sort of retarded at times

we had an important goal line stand near the end of the first half and they started trying to make a human pyramid right in the middle of it, then they started letting another guy crowd surf on some guys

poor cheerleader that got dropped...her partner should have done more to break her fall

9/2/2007 12:26:52 AM

Wow, losing to UCF. Not even gonna comment on this one.

9/2/2007 1:49:09 AM

Good. Don't.

9/2/2007 2:14:24 AM

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"Beck is far from perfect, but DAMN it's good to see a QB stand up strong in the pocket and find the open man while under pressure. Sharp contrast to the Evans "duck and roll" technique (not to mention the Stone tuck-and-run philosophy)."

The problem with Evans in this game in particular is that the coaches kept bootlegging him, so standing tall in the pocket wasn't even an option.

(Not that I really think he would have, but it'd have been nice if he ever got to stay in the pocket)

Meanwhile, it's really nice that we were able to pull a moral victory our of this, but our DBs got burned every single time down the field and the inaccuracy of their QB was our only saving grace. If we have any chance against Boston College, it's going to have to be a shootout.

Also, Bowens is awesome.

[Edited on September 2, 2007 at 4:03 AM. Reason : .]

9/2/2007 4:02:40 AM

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""Also did you notive how many stupid penalties we had?" there was that one PF on the o-lineman (i think it was #66 Yomi Ojo)"

He did get a personal foul... and as soon as the ref announced it his replacement came running in and Ojo ran off the field to a smattering of clapping (from opposite the student section) for TOB for taking him out. I almost expected to see him running bleachers during halftime!

9/2/2007 7:26:12 AM

YOu know, i dont remember much after 3 or 4 pm yesterday... christ, at least i didnt miss anything too bad.

9/2/2007 8:12:35 AM

Everyone is talking so great about the fans, and while overall we did cheer smart, as an alum that has to pay $texas to get to the games now, I was pissed to see that at 6:30 our student sections were still not full. I was in the north endzone and the entire student area in front of me was almost empty, not to mention the upper deck.

If I can drink for 4.5 hours and make it there on time, so can you guys.

9/2/2007 8:45:18 AM

it's the first game of the year AND labor day weekend, get over it

9/2/2007 9:12:43 AM

I still love it...

2nd half was a great game. The team must a had the sun in their eyes.

9/2/2007 9:15:54 AM

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"it's the first game of the year AND labor day weekend, get over it"

fixed that... it's the first game of the year and first game of a new coach.

the stadium mostly filled up, it just took a while, that's what I am getting at.

9/2/2007 9:54:54 AM

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"and he might be able to throw a block"

Yes, that pissed me off too. Evans had a chance for a block and didn't even try. I know he's a small guy, but he could've at least gone for the feet.

9/2/2007 9:55:17 AM

^why? When you have to have your qb to make a block in the play....you've called the wrong play.

Coaching lost this game. Its that simple.

And like another poster said, the long ball HELPED this team. It loosens coverage and opens up underneath. The fact that we had someone willing to air one out...several times.. was refreshing.

9/2/2007 9:59:07 AM

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"as an alum that has to pay $texas to get to the games now, I was pissed to see that at 6:30 our student sections were still not full"

You can go in any entrance without having to do a bunch of shit, students have to get hands/tickets stamped (with a section) and have 2 small entrances were the line is around 45 minutes or more to get in.

9/2/2007 10:03:57 AM

the students filed into sections 7 and 8 and only filled in the other sections when they closed 7 and 8

there's nothing wrong with the other sections and there's no excuse for them to not even have one person in them midway through the 1st quarter

all around GA is a bad idea for student tickets

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"^why? When you have to have your qb to make a block in the play....you've called the wrong play."

A good QB makes that block

Philip Rivers makes that block

Tony Romo makes that block

Brett Favre makes that block

[Edited on September 2, 2007 at 10:14 AM. Reason : asdf]

9/2/2007 10:12:04 AM

Very true about our DB's getting roasted in the second half (THANK GOD UCF'S QUARTERBACK SUCKED ASS). Ryan will eat us alive next week if the coverage doesn't tighten up. Having said that, I don't think BC will be able to run the ball as easy as UCF did, so hopefully we can drop our safeties deep. If not, look the fuck out.

And Jimmy Sutton showed why he's now number three on the depth chart. The guy has talent, he just rarely uses it.

9/2/2007 10:19:58 AM

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"You can go in any entrance without having to do a bunch of shit, students have to get hands/tickets stamped (with a section) and have 2 small entrances were the line is around 45 minutes or more to get in."

sure if you get to the gate right at kickoff the line might be a little longer, but i doubt 45 minutes. on the few occasions i have encountered a line, it has never taken me more than about 15 minutes to get in, normally you can just walk right in. it's very simple . . . don't wait until the last minute.

9/2/2007 10:36:04 AM

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""Also did you notive how many stupid penalties we had?" there was that one PF on the o-lineman (i think it was #66 Yomi Ojo)"

That PF wasn't so bad in my opinion. He was blocking the guy pretty hard and it looked to me he might not have heard the whistle or something. I saw it happened and said to my buddies "He better be careful with...ahhh hell, he got a flag for that". It wasn't a terrible just blatantly shoving a guy well after a play or whatever type of PF. It was questionable in my opinion.

9/2/2007 10:45:11 AM

The DB that kept getting toasted was #14 Neal. That guy was behind the ball every fucking time. He is god awful. And Sutton on the other side sucks too.

9/2/2007 10:48:47 AM

^um, having been to almost every home game for the last 8 years, the line is stupid as fuck now.

Two gates for 1/2 the attendees, with much tighter security than in years past, + hand stamps + scanners. We got to the gates 10 minutes before kickoff and it took 20-30 minutes to get through the gates.

Then another 10 minutes to get a seat, having to go from section to section being told they were full and to try the next one. Hand stamps were worthless.

But its free, so I really dont give a damn

9/2/2007 10:49:00 AM

well, if you don't get there until 10 minutes before kickoff, you don't get the right to bitch about having to wait in line.

[Edited on September 2, 2007 at 10:57 AM. Reason : ]

9/2/2007 10:56:41 AM

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"When you have to have your qb to make a block in the play....you've called the wrong play."

Bullshit.

If the QB has a chance to block, he'd better do it instead of hanging his running back out to dry. That's not good teamwork.

9/2/2007 11:15:45 AM