At this point, it doesn't matter much what stupid things McCain says. That doesn't change the fact that Obama is a marxist hack who would raise taxes on the job-creating members of society.

He would put anti-capitalist nutjobs on the supreme court.

His weak-kneed Dukakis/Carter genes would leave our country open even more to terrorist attacks.

Obama is so wrong for the country, McCain would have to be caught in bed with a farm animal before he'd lose my vote.

9/18/2008 11:02:25 AM

you're weird

9/18/2008 11:07:46 AM

define marxism earthdogg.

9/18/2008 11:12:55 AM

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" He would put anti-capitalist nutjobs on the supreme court. "

I dunno, but I'm for keeping the liberal/conservative balance pretty even in the supreme court, if McCain gets it we'll see a far right shift which I don't think will be good for the country in the long term.

9/18/2008 11:20:11 AM

well the fact obama voted against roberts is scary.

I think earth is talking about wealth redistribution nuts

9/18/2008 12:19:59 PM

edit : wrong thread ?

[Edited on September 18, 2008 at 12:31 PM. Reason : fail]

9/18/2008 12:30:57 PM

^^I would vote against John Roberts too, along with Scalia and Alito.

9/18/2008 12:32:43 PM

This thread should be locked. Let's only have ONE official thread, pleased.

[Edited on September 18, 2008 at 12:35 PM. Reason : ``]

9/18/2008 12:34:46 PM

boofuckinghoo socks``

9/18/2008 12:42:49 PM

^^in that case wouldn't the first official thread be the official thread? otherwise whats the point of saying official in the title & making it first?

9/18/2008 1:52:41 PM

why is that nuts? on roberts? Even most dems would deem him to be a fine pick. Shit, I even think joe approves of him.

9/18/2008 2:01:01 PM

Roberts was pretty well qualified and I would have probably voted for him. Alito notsomuch.

9/18/2008 2:01:59 PM

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"define marxism earthdogg."

You know..socialism, labor theory of value, class struggle, dictatorship of the proletariat until a classless society is created, dogs living with cats....that kind of thing.

I wish someone would ask his opinions on marxism, socialism and capitalism. It would be fun watching the smoke come out of his ears as he struggles to deny his true essence.

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"if McCain gets it we'll see a far right shift"

I doubt that. Some of the most angriest people at the end of a McCain first term might be conservatives. I think he'd put center-right judges on the court.

9/18/2008 10:32:22 PM

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"if McCain gets it we'll see a far right shift"

if by far right shift you mean like roe vs wade being overturned

9/18/2008 10:41:14 PM

if obama gets elected he'll chop down the 2nd amendment and the US will have the crime rate of Chicago

9/18/2008 10:43:15 PM

what does chop down mean? i bet my friend back home will still be able to have guns...

9/18/2008 10:45:24 PM

Republican Whip Jon Kyl is on CSPAN spouting why it's the Demograt's fault ... "When I made proposals for better oversight in 2004, the democrats opposed it." ....

2004? You had a Republican president and Republican majorities in both houses. Who you want to blame? ....

9/18/2008 10:47:33 PM

^^it means when the govt bans guns they wont have to worry about the people revolting when they start pulling their socialist hijinks

[Edited on September 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2008 10:47:49 PM

thats pretty cynical and unrealistic imo

9/18/2008 10:48:43 PM

You think Obama is going to come anywhere close to being able to ban guns?

^exactly

[Edited on September 18, 2008 at 10:49 PM. Reason : ]

9/18/2008 10:49:01 PM

you know what else is cynical and unrealistic? thinking the govt gives a fuck about monitoring your emails and phone calls

9/18/2008 10:51:07 PM

ummmm ok? i dont see where you are going with this

9/18/2008 10:51:57 PM

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"thinking the govt gives a fuck about monitoring your emails and phone calls"

Oops

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_surveillance_program

9/18/2008 10:55:15 PM

haha this guy thinks the govt cares about him

you're a nobody, they dont even acknowledge your existence, quit acting so paranoid and self important

9/18/2008 10:55:58 PM

seriously...even the smart dems dont care about that

9/18/2008 10:57:01 PM

what are smart dems

9/18/2008 10:58:57 PM

why is the sky blue?

9/18/2008 11:00:12 PM

its not

what the fuck do you mean "even smart dems dont care about that"

dont care about what? dont care about the patriot act?

[Edited on September 18, 2008 at 11:03 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2008 11:02:15 PM

dems dont care about the patriot act? huh?

9/18/2008 11:04:20 PM

what dont they care about? you're the one who said even smart dems don't care about "that"

whats "that"?

9/18/2008 11:04:49 PM

It has nothing to do with me being no one important.

The fact that the government can spy on all of my phone calls without a warrant , suspend my constitutional rights on a moment's notice, imprison me offshore, and torture me endlessly scares me.

That doesn't bother you at all?

9/18/2008 11:06:16 PM

no cause i'm not an egomaniac like you and i'm not paranoid that i'm going to get kidnappened one night and taken to gitmo because i mentioned some weed on a phone call like you apparently are getting all noid about

plus i realized they could do all that shit already, just not legally, but when have laws ever stopped the govt before...you're pretty naive if you think people havent already been tortured and locked up outside the country, etc

[Edited on September 18, 2008 at 11:08 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2008 11:07:11 PM

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"plus i realized they could do all that shit already, just not legally, but when have laws ever stopped the govt before "

Laws constantly stop the government. It's what keeps the government in check. If it wasn't for our legal system, we'd probably still have alberto gonzalez as AG.

9/18/2008 11:09:22 PM

didnt obama change his stance on this a couple of months ago, to the correct stance? i'm pretty sure he did iirc

9/18/2008 11:09:48 PM

But, I mean, the fact that they could do that. They could. If they wanted to. You don't think that's an erosion of the rights granted to you as a citizen? Don't you think that if you're okay with that, they can start restricting more, and more, and more.. until you go "Fuck, why didn't I speak up 10 years ago?"

9/18/2008 11:10:02 PM

the fact is they could do it all along if they wanted to

you're acting like the govt cant do something if its not legal

no offense but i think you're paraoid from weed...and dont act like you're not an egomaniac...your screenname is God...you obviously think you're the shit

[Edited on September 18, 2008 at 11:11 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2008 11:11:27 PM

^^restricting your rights by weeding out al queada threats? pretty sure most americans are for that iirc

[Edited on September 18, 2008 at 11:13 PM. Reason : pretty sure you mean weeding out al queada threats and that most americans favor that]

[Edited on September 18, 2008 at 11:14 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2008 11:12:10 PM

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"The fact that the government can spy on all of my phone calls "

They tap international phone calls. And probably calls made by very specific people (terrorists) they are tracking. They don't have the legal grounds, the desire, nor the manpower to tap some college kid's conversation with his buddy across the street.

I have a feeling you haven't looked into what exactly the related bill says, and you should because there is no reason for you to believe you would be personally affected by it, and that its this blatant violation of the consitution that you say it is.

9/19/2008 12:56:53 AM

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_NC_92168.pdf

These guys numbers proved pretty accurate during the primaries in North Carolina.

This poll that was just conducted has Obama & McCain each at 46%

Also Kay Hagan is at 46% vs Dole's 41%

Economy & Jobs far and away was ranked as North Carolinians' top concern, with the war in Iraq as a distant 2nd place concern.

9/21/2008 11:18:04 AM

I'm surprised fags and abortions weren't at the top

9/21/2008 11:26:35 AM

then you would be extremely interested.

amirite?

9/21/2008 11:31:50 AM

yes, in case i impregnate my gay lover

9/21/2008 11:37:04 AM

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"This poll that was just conducted has Obama & McCain each at 46%"

sometimes I dare to have hope! IIRC, polls only call landline phones. Considering NC's high college population, there's a sizable chunk of cell only voters. Maybe, just maybe, the youth turnout won't be abysmally low this year! I want to be optimistic but I can't quite. Every election they talk about how the youngns are excited, and every election the 18-25 turnout is like 5%.

9/21/2008 12:26:59 PM

^ABC lists us as a battleground state, maybe it is okay to hope?

9/21/2008 12:38:05 PM

CNN had NC as battleground, then switched us to "Leaning Republican" after the Palin poll bounce

but the bounce seems to be sagging and there's still time!!!

9/21/2008 12:41:18 PM

^yeah that abc map I saw on the 20th, and that polling data was released yesterday, so it all seems to be post-palin bounce drop.

nc is tied b/c nc residents care about the economy. obama launched his economics tour in Raleigh a while back and comes back often enough that i think there is a chance.

9/21/2008 12:56:15 PM

i'm becoming more and more disappointed with mccain

there is zero chance that i will vote obama, of course. it's a matter of voting McCain, Barr/writing in Ron Paul, or sitting at home.

i still have considerable faith that McCain hasn't really changed in terms of policy, and he's saying and doing whatever is expeditious in terms of getting elected President, but that itself is very discouraging and a mark of change for the worse.

9/21/2008 12:59:26 PM

McCain spent the last 20 years calling for de-regulation on Wall Street, and now he's all about regulation

one of the many changes from McCain 00 to McCain 08

9/21/2008 1:16:08 PM

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"He would put anti-capitalist nutjobs on the supreme court."

Beats the shit out of appointing them to run the Treasury Dept...

9/21/2008 1:23:06 PM

the front page, top part of CNN right now says:
"Barack Obama rally in Charlotte, North Carolina
Watch Now: Live on CNN.com »"

its also listed under their political section as the first one on the list of top stories
"LIVE: Obama campaigns in North Carolina"

9/21/2008 1:30:16 PM