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oh snap!!!
Quote : | "Witness in Cooper case: Police tried to 'coerce him' Brad Cooper
Posted: Today at 11:59 a.m. Updated: 2 minutes ago
Raleigh, N.C. — A man who was supposed to play tennis with Brad Cooper the day his wife disappeared says in a new court filing that police tried to "coerce" him into saying he helped establish an alibi for Cooper, now at the center of a custody battle for his two young daughters.
In an interview with police four weeks ago, Michael Hiller states in an affidavit, investigators used "good cop-bad cop" tactics to force him to admit he made calls on Nancy Cooper's cell phone on July 12.
He also says police told him the Town of Cary was calling her homicide isolated "so people like you would be more comfortable."
"The police told me they had to investigate Brad because he was the husband," Hiller states in the document. "They also told me that if they were to arrest someone else without thoroughly investigating Brad, the lawyer for that arrested person would accuse them of doing poor police work."
Cary police had no comment on Hiller's affidavit, a town spokeswoman said.
In a phone interview with WRAL News Thursday morning, Hiller said he backs his statements but said he does believe Cary police are doing a good job with the case.
"We are just looking for justice for Nancy and the girls and for Brad, wherever the cards may fall," he said.
A man walking his dog found Nancy Cooper's body on July 14 in an undeveloped subdivision three miles from the Coopers' Lochmere home. An autopsy found she had been strangled.
Her parents, Garry and Donna Rentz, filed for custody of the couple's children two days later, claiming Brad Cooper is mentally unstable and poses a threat to the children.
Cooper was scheduled Thursday to give a deposition to the Rentzes' attorneys, who will be able to ask him anything that relates to his fitness as a parent, including whether he played a role in his wife's death.
Police have not named a suspect in the case, although there has been widespread speculation that he was involved. His attorneys have repeatedly denied that Cooper killed his wife.
Cooper must answer the questions or be held in contempt of court. He does have an option, however to invoke his Fifth Amendment right on any question that might incriminate him.
The Rentzes and Nancy Cooper's sister, Krista Lister, who has also filed for custody, will be deposed by Brad Cooper's attorneys next week. The temporary custody hearing is scheduled for the week of Oct. 13." |
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3658943/10/2/2008 4:57:28 PM |
chickenhead
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police used "good cop-bad cop" tactics??!! no way! 10/2/2008 5:09:02 PM |
Edwards New Recruit 44 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Witness says she saw Nancy Cooper jogging Posted: 4 minutes ago 10/15/08
Raleigh, N.C. — Just before a judge was scheduled to hear a motion on whether evidence collected in the Nancy Cooper murder case should be turned over to the slain Cary mother's husband, attorneys for Brad Cooper filed court documents Wednesday from a woman who says she saw Nancy Cooper on the morning she disappeared.
In an affidavit dated Oct. 9, Rosemary Zednick says she was walking her dog at about 7:10 a.m. on July 12 when she saw Nancy Cooper running along a bicycle path on Lochmere Drive toward Kildaire Farm Road.
Zednick says she made eye contact with Nancy Cooper and spoke with her.
"I said, 'Hi,' she turned her head and said 'Hi' back to me," Zednick said. "We were almost close enough to touch."
Brad Cooper, 35, is in the middle of a custody battle with his wife's family over the couple's two young daughters. Garry and Donna Rentz, Nancy Cooper's parents, allege he is an unfit parent and that he had been emotionally abusive to and financially controlling of his wife in the months before she was killed.
A friend reported Nancy Cooper missing after she failed to show up for a planned meeting, and a man walking his dog found her body two days later in an undeveloped subdivision three miles from the Coopers' Cary home.
Although police are not calling him a suspect or person of interest in the case, Brad Cooper has denied being involved in his wife's death. He said he last saw her on the morning of July 12 before she left for a jog.
His attorneys subpoenaed Cary police for all evidence relating to the murder case, including notes, personal property, physical evidence, computers and videos.
But Wake County Assistant District Attorney Howard Cummings said releasing that information could jeopardize the murder investigation.
Cummings called the request "a fishing expedition" in an attempt to prepare Brad Cooper's defense "to a potential criminal charge."" |
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3744188/10/15/2008 2:30:37 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
sounds like they shared a moment 10/15/2008 2:34:39 PM |
NCSUGirl83 All American 10343 Posts user info edit post |
why did it take almost 3 months for it to come out that someone saw her running? 10/15/2008 2:38:16 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Ohh yeah i did see that chick doh! 10/15/2008 2:40:19 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " NOT.
THE.
HUSBAND.
" |
10/15/2008 2:45:05 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
bitch
is
lying
no way it takes 3 months for her to come out with that if she actually saw her 10/15/2008 3:01:09 PM |
Gzusfrk All American 2988 Posts user info edit post |
She said she reported it to the CPD on three different occasions beginning the day after Nancy was reported missing. She has the business card of the detective she spoke with, and she left a telephone "statement." Read the affidavit, there's a lot more information than the article addresses. 10/15/2008 3:22:52 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
here is the link to the affidavit
http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2008/10/15/3744323/20081015142722449.pdf 10/15/2008 3:30:38 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "bitch
is
lying
no way it takes 3 months for her to come out with that if she actually saw her" |
READ
THE
AFFADAVIT
CARY
PD
PWNT10/15/2008 6:48:36 PM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
cooper indicted 10/27/2008 5:26:01 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
wow that was quick. you had that before wral 10/27/2008 5:27:35 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
its on there now 10/27/2008 5:29:31 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
i saw that 10/27/2008 5:30:45 PM |
thumper All American 21574 Posts user info edit post |
aww shit
Quote : | " Brad Cooper indicted in wife’s death
Raleigh, N.C. — The husband of a Cary mother of two who was discovered dead in an undeveloped subdivision in July was indicted Monday on first-degree murder in his wife's death.
A grand jury returned the indictment against Bradley Graham Cooper, 34, of 104 Wallsburg Court, in the July 12 disappearance and slaying of Nancy Cooper, 34.
A man walking his dog on July 14 found Nancy Cooper’s body on the bank of a storm pond near a cul-de-sac near Holly Springs Road and Fielding Drive — less than three miles from the Coopers’ home in the Lochmere subdivision of Cary.
Cary police have said nothing about how Nancy Cooper died, though a state medical examiner's autopsy suggested she had been strangled. Cary police Chief Pat Bazemore is expected to hold a news conference at 8 p.m. (Watch it live on WRAL-TV, WRAL.com or the WRAL NewsChannel.)
Brad Cooper, who admitted to police that he and his wife were having marital difficulties after he had an extramarital affair, came under public scrutiny in the days and weeks following her disappearance and death.
Last week, a judge awarded temporary custody of the couple’s two young daughters to Nancy Cooper’s parents and identical twin sister, who alleged Brad Cooper was mentally unstable and emotionally abusive to his wife and children in the months prior to her death.
Brad Cooper told police Nancy Cooper went jogging around 7 a.m. on July 12 and never returned. A friend reported her missing later that afternoon after she failed to show up for a planned meeting. " |
10/27/2008 5:50:26 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Still innocent until proven guilty
/devil's advocate 10/27/2008 5:51:40 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
i just thought about this today. 10/27/2008 5:54:02 PM |
thumper All American 21574 Posts user info edit post |
oh, most definitely. all those duke lacrosse players were indicted, and look at how that turned out 10/27/2008 5:54:10 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Well that ends one debate and starts another... Five bucks says he get the death penalty. 10/27/2008 5:55:37 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
guilty until proven innocent 10/27/2008 5:56:15 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
^ pretty much. GO AMERICA. 10/27/2008 6:04:20 PM |
GrimReap3r All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
im just very skeptical since it took this long to get a fuckin' indictment.... 10/27/2008 6:22:02 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
just arrested 10/27/2008 6:23:32 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
^^ eve carson suspect just indicted today too. and no one is skeptical of that 10/27/2008 6:31:14 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
He was indicted on Federal charges. They (the state, Orange Co.) want him to have the death penalty. 10/27/2008 6:32:16 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
that was just for the federal charges on the eve carson thing
[Edited on October 27, 2008 at 6:32 PM. Reason : yeah, what ^ said] 10/27/2008 6:32:30 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
doesn't matter. its still an indictment that took a long time
durrrrrr 10/27/2008 6:33:17 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
little different when they were already charged by the state 10/27/2008 6:33:47 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Only becasue the Bureaucratic wheels of the Law and Justice can roll slow at times, just becasue it can. 10/27/2008 6:34:23 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder what type of evidence they have? I mean if they had good stuff you think he would have been indicted a month or two ago... 10/27/2008 6:34:51 PM |
GrimReap3r All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
that and the CPD still has training wheels on
[Edited on October 27, 2008 at 6:35 PM. Reason : ^my initial point]
[Edited on October 27, 2008 at 6:36 PM. Reason : im good speller] 10/27/2008 6:35:10 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
ohhh i see. we only like when things happen fast, mike nifong style. 10/27/2008 6:35:24 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
you got it 10/27/2008 6:35:47 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Basically they have the mentality, 'we can't let him get away with this, so we must create him a criminal record at the very least to make life miserable for him'. 10/27/2008 6:36:13 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder when was the last time CPD dealt with a murder investigation? 10/27/2008 6:36:44 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
When that lady side-swiped bout 50-11 geese and tried to get away with it. 10/27/2008 6:37:35 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
all i am trying to illustrate is just because he got indicted doesn't mean he's guilty. but just because it took awhile doesn't mean he isn't guilty.
i don't even think a few months is that out of the ordinary for an indictment. and especially in potential spousal murder cases? i mean think about how much harder it is to collect evidence. what---you go looking for his finger prints in the house? OH WAIT, he lived there. his hair, prints, etc are probably everywhere. not exactly easy peasy lemon squeezy. plus there are other hurdles as well, i'm sure. i'm not saying that CPD didn't fuck up, i'm just saying it IS POSSIBLE that they didn't. 10/27/2008 6:57:18 PM |
JMONEY All American 3580 Posts user info edit post |
FREE BRAD COOPER 10/27/2008 7:00:58 PM |
thumper All American 21574 Posts user info edit post |
FROOPER!
just kidding, that joker is guilty as sin. burn him at the stake. 10/27/2008 7:05:15 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Indictments don't mean shit. if it took them this long to indict him, they don't have shit.
and honestly, the affidavit of the woman who said she told the police THREE TIMES that she saw her running the day she went missing is pretty damning for CPD - they ignored testimony to go on a witch hunt because they don't have any other leads.
That is the definition of complete ineptitude. 10/27/2008 7:12:15 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
holllla just found a DOJ study on average length of indictment in spousal murder cases. 4 months.
granted it was the US DOJ AND it was published in 1995 (so evidence from the 80s) and it dealt with "large urban counties" --- and the 75 largest counties in the US. which i don't think Wake is (or maybe it is who really knows i didn't look that shit up).
but besides all the things that aren't relevant, it just shows things CAN take awhile.
but i'm just saying. this is not an episode of law and order people. we cannot have a murder, charge, indictment, conviction, sentence, appeal, RESULT all in 45 minutes.
i spent a large part of saturday listening to the story of a man who was wrongfully convicted and in prison for 18.5 years. i'd rather things go SLOW and be correct. not that going slow means they're anymore correct. but it is a little more reassuring i guess...maybe? well whatev...when you have a jury trial you're probably better off going with the the cuter lawyer over the qualified lawyer anyway. 10/27/2008 7:13:19 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
guilty
as
shit 10/27/2008 8:16:56 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
innocent till proven guilty. 10/27/2008 9:37:33 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder how they'll pick jurors. hopefully they won't get anyone from this thread, its so polarized as it is. if any indication of the area at large then picking a jury will be hard.
personally, i still don't think it was him and i don't think this indictment means a thing. i think they just went ahead and did it because they were getting pressured due to the most recent hearing with his daughters/in-laws. someone probably told the CPD to shit or get off the pot. 10/27/2008 10:23:06 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
that's what I'm thinking. 10/27/2008 11:38:17 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
maybe the parents had something to do with it
maybe they didnt like their daughter and secretly wanted the grandchildren for themselves
they did try to get custody only 2 days after she was killed
lol chitchat 10/27/2008 11:57:49 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
its possible. 10/28/2008 12:04:02 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
set em up 10/28/2008 12:04:32 AM |