Minor for Pence

Do it do it do it do it do it

7/28/2011 7:39:57 AM

Don Sutton had a great line the other night.


Sure I'd trade Teheran. *5 second pause*. For a 29 year old Ted Williams.

7/28/2011 7:47:01 AM

sitting 2 rows up from the marlins dugout Friday. And box seats sat and sun

7/28/2011 8:19:56 AM

Ah, 4th inning second and third with no outs. Another Lowe point in the season

7/28/2011 9:15:49 PM

Hunter Pence seems like a dick. Mainly because he's a white guy who looks like he's exerting energy when he runs. Eric Byrnes style.

7/28/2011 9:18:44 PM

Another game, another piss poor offensive showing. Please go ahead and ship Heyward back to AAA once either Chipper or Schaefer is back. Dude is either injured and hiding it or needs a mental break from the bigs to figure out what the hell he is doing wrong.

Put Hinske in right, McLouth in center, Prado in left, or if Chipper is still out and JS is back, then Hinske, Schaefer, McLouth across the OF. Supposedly the Braves are trying to get Quentin from the ChiSox for Minor. Good deal IMO if the Braves can convince Kenny Williams that the Sox have zero chance in hell of winning this season.

7/28/2011 11:35:35 PM

Hunter "Spaz" Pence

7/28/2011 11:39:02 PM

Quote :

" Please go ahead and ship Heyward back to AAA"

That's the rumor. I don't see it happening unless we get Pence, and Jon Heyman says the Braves are the only team left in the running.

Heyward : Freeman :: Francoeur : McCann ???

[Edited on July 29, 2011 at 6:39 AM. Reason : Braves sent $1 to Milwaukee for Nieves]

7/29/2011 6:38:01 AM

Olney on Braves

Quote :

"Observation from an NL official about the Braves' interest in Hunter Pence: "They don't value on-base percentage as much as other teams do.""

Lol. I have a RF for you in KC with the same philosophy.

7/29/2011 8:49:24 AM

Sounds like someone else I know

7/29/2011 9:15:00 AM

Just because a front office doesn't value OBP doesn't make them full-on retards like Dusty Baker

Baker is one end of the spectrum, Beane is the other

Neither have done shit

7/29/2011 9:26:52 AM

Whats the logic in holding all four pitching prospects while watching Philly go out and get Pence?

7/29/2011 1:40:49 PM

It's not about holding onto all four, it's about not giving up two of them, which is apparently what Pence would cost. Braves have plenty to build around, no point in mortgaging the future only to lose to the Phillies, who are old as shit. I realize this is difficult to understand for a guy whose team has been run by clowns for the past decade.

Pence is a great player, but he's never going to be an MVP, no point in trading away like he is. Plus he's going to make a shit ton through arbitration and probably wants a long-term deal. Possible ownership change probably makes that a dicey proposition.

[Edited on July 29, 2011 at 1:47 PM. Reason : Braves have no hitters in the farm, gotta use those pitchers wisely]

7/29/2011 1:46:55 PM

Braves have arguably 2 of the top pitching spects in Vizcaino & Teheran. If they're gonna move them, they should be able to net far better than Pence

7/29/2011 1:49:47 PM

Quote :

"Sure I'd trade Teheran. *5 second pause*. For a 29 year old Ted Williams."

7/29/2011 1:58:55 PM

I feel like Minor is the only guy who's really available

MLBN says Phillies are offering their #1 hitting and pitching prospects and Brown

Yowzers

[Edited on July 29, 2011 at 2:06 PM. Reason : ]

7/29/2011 2:00:28 PM

Pence is good but not worth that much. That's crazy but I guess Philly knows theyre old and need to go for it...

7/29/2011 3:29:53 PM

Whoever gets Pence is a sucker. He's a 6 hitter at best on a good team.

7/29/2011 3:34:56 PM

Daniel Murphy has a higher fangraphs WAR this year...

7/29/2011 3:39:21 PM

I can't really blame them for going balls out this year. Two years from now they aren't going to have anyone productive left from this team.

If I were a GM I'd never be able to pull the trigger on something like that. I'd always want at least a shot in the near future, even if it means not raising my chances for this year. I'd probably be a shitty GM, though.

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Diory DFA'd, McLouth DL'd (wtf), Cantstandya batting leadoff tonight

Worst outfield ever

[Edited on July 29, 2011 at 4:42 PM. Reason : ]

7/29/2011 4:37:51 PM

Uggla with a HR to extend his hit streak to 20 games.

7/29/2011 9:44:30 PM

haha, who woulda ever guessed Dan Uggla would have a 20 game hit streak this season...

btw, the lineup tonight was just damned dreadful.

7/29/2011 11:08:19 PM

It is almost worth it to sign uggla in my fantasy league, but his 20 game streak is 1-5 nights.

7/30/2011 12:03:32 AM

he's like the 8th best 2B over the last month, and hitting .333, 4 HR, 9 R, 10 RBI over the last 14. If somebody doesn't have him your league is a joke. although you might have meant that as a joke..

and i can't really understand not having Pence right now. Jurrjens/Hanson are proven, Beachy/Medlen seem like they're at least solid, we don't really need 4 more starters even if Hudson and Lowe are traded/cut/retire or whatever. The Phillies getting better while we sit here with our thumbs up our ass really feels shitty, but maybe they'll pull something out soon

[Edited on July 30, 2011 at 12:28 AM. Reason : 8th]

7/30/2011 12:23:15 AM

I have Chase utley...

7/30/2011 1:39:43 AM

The phillies are set up for collapse in the next 2-3 years. We aren't series contenders with pence this year at all but looking ahead we are great. The phils can over pay and have him and still exit early.

7/30/2011 1:41:16 AM

Confucius say:

Quote :

"thumbs up our ass really feels shitty"

7/30/2011 1:42:37 AM

¡Su nombre es

Señor Uggla!

7/30/2011 7:55:09 PM

Just got back from the field not long ago. Jack mckeon let me buy him a drink

7/30/2011 11:54:27 PM

Wanna hear a good joke?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/braves-marlins-discussing-omar-infante.html

7/31/2011 9:01:41 AM

Ken Rosenthal says Bourn deal is done

Four minor leaguers (yikes)

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Quote :

"The Astros will receive center fielder Jordan Schafer, southpaw Double-A starter Brett Oberholtzer, righty Double-A starter Paul Clemens, and righty Triple-A reliever Juan Abreu"

Houston's sending cash, too. Looks like a pretty damn good deal.

[Edited on July 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM. Reason : ]

7/31/2011 9:49:14 AM

awesome trade

7/31/2011 10:20:28 AM

lol at dave winfield


"the braves didnt help themselves, they didnt get pence or beltran. they shouldve at least gone after bourn"

7/31/2011 10:42:00 AM

I could also sworn he said "Fred Kimbrel"

7/31/2011 11:33:21 AM

Not a huge Bourn guy, but not a bad trade. Certainly an upgrade over Mclouth...

[Edited on July 31, 2011 at 12:05 PM. Reason : x]

7/31/2011 12:04:54 PM

I was really turning a corner on Jordan Schafer, but it'll be nice to add a true lead off hitter and someone that can actually run. I'll take it.

7/31/2011 12:14:13 PM

Big Mark Bowman says:

Quote :

"Wren said he could have had Beltran or Pence if he had made a serious push for them. Says Bourn is the better fit. "

I believe that

[Edited on July 31, 2011 at 12:17 PM. Reason : ^ Schafer sucked, and will continue to suck where ever he goes]

7/31/2011 12:16:30 PM

That's kinda bullshit. Wheeler is a better prospect than Minor. Short of including Minor plus another arm (Delgado?) or including Teheran or Vizcaino they couldn't have beaten that return.

[Edited on July 31, 2011 at 12:27 PM. Reason : x]

7/31/2011 12:27:11 PM

I think the point is that Wren never even made a move for Beltran. He's a rental and had a pretty steep price (and can't play CF anymore). Obviously that isn't a good fit for a team that's looking for a long-term solution in center and at the top of the lineup. Beltran isn't a good fit, that's all he was saying.

[Edited on July 31, 2011 at 1:05 PM. Reason : Braves could have put together a better package than the Giants if they wanted him]

7/31/2011 1:04:46 PM

Glavine just said, "Shit, it's been a strange game."

7/31/2011 3:29:39 PM

Did he call Constanzas out at 3rd correctly?

7/31/2011 3:35:53 PM

Quote :

"Wheeler is a better prospect than Minor. "

I would not say that. Wheeler is currently #35 in BA midseason rankings, which is good, but not overly great. However, he hasn't gotten past high A ball, so his projection while good isn't certain by any means.

minor on the other hand, isn't fully developed, but is "here". being ML ready trumps having to rely on projections.

7/31/2011 8:11:43 PM

^^yea. And he knew he was out

7/31/2011 8:51:05 PM

Glad the Braves added something to our horrid lineup. Got to give Wren credit for getting Bourn without giving up any of the top 4 guys. Schafer is never going to be anything more than a .650 OPS guy and will be out of baseball in three years or less. The rest of the guys we gave up are 50% or less to even make it to the bigs. Abreu may have a better chance to make it as he throws 100, but has no command.

Bourn at least gives the Braves a dimension that they have not had in years in a legit base stealer. Plus it puts Prado hitting 2nd which he is perfect for and gets Heyward's sorry ass out of that spot in the lineup. Heyward should probably just be put in the 8 hole.

New lineup IMO (assuming everyone is healthy):

1. Bourn CF
2. Prado LF
3. Chipper 3B
4. McCann C
5. Uggla 2B
6. Freeman 1B
7. Gonzalez SS
8. Heyward RF (or Hinkse or McLouth)

[Edited on August 1, 2011 at 8:09 AM. Reason : fg]

8/1/2011 8:07:37 AM

Heyward hasn't batted 2nd in weeks, but i get your point.

8/1/2011 8:13:18 AM

^ Who has been hitting 2nd? Prado I assume with Schafer or Cantstandya hitting leadoff? I don't get to watch the games anymore, just highlights on ESPN.com so I just assumed he was still in the 2 hole with all of the injuries. Either way he sucks dick and I am glad the Braves got another OF option. Please get healthy McCann and Chipper.

8/1/2011 8:43:03 AM

Heyward hit second during the Reds series

He won't be back there for a while

8/1/2011 8:45:57 AM

did he? I thought that was the series they experimented the McClouth/Prado 1 and 2.

8/1/2011 9:05:13 AM

Quote :

"@ajcbraves David O'Brien Stay tuned but I think #Braves roster move for Bourn might be Proctor."

8/1/2011 4:30:12 PM

Quote :

"@ajcbraves David O'Brien #Braves still haven't announced roster move or lineup. Check what I said about Proctor. Now could simply be Constanza or Varvaro"

8/1/2011 5:29:20 PM