DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Just for a split-second, let's ignore the most important part of this story. Now doesn't this narrative I just changed now fit my argument?" |
You'd rather throw in some made up shit to make the story sound better, wouldn't you?3/23/2012 2:07:15 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But I guess Trayvon must have been on PCP or something, right?" |
Have you ever had Skittles? They're like pure sugar.]3/23/2012 2:08:01 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
I'm eating some right now...wearing a hoodie 3/23/2012 2:08:29 PM |
Marlo Veteran 275 Posts user info edit post |
He was trying to give Zimmerman diabetes! 3/23/2012 2:08:36 PM |
LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But I guess it's just all their fault for not trying hard enough... or something... or whatever excuse you want to come up with.
Also, in before 'White guilt.' " |
You have got to be fucking kidding me. So because blacks and latinos commit more crimes and are less often successful it's okay to cheer when OJ goes free? What the fuck kind of bullshit fuzzy logic is that. You're either a troll with extreme tenacity or an major tardmo...either way you lose.3/23/2012 2:09:52 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you think Zimmerman thought he was going to die from a fight with Treyvon?
serious question
like oh shit I started this fight and didn't know this kid can fight back so let me shoot him to stop it?" |
How do we know what Zimmerman was feeling? Is it that hard to put yourself in his shoes and imagine that he felt his life was possibly in danger?
I know you like to say kid / child a lot, throw around his weight and age - but do you really think Zimmerman knew these details? Is it that hard to imagine Zimmerman knew none of these - just that he was getting his ass kicked by someone?3/23/2012 2:12:13 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/heatzone/2012/03/23/lebron-steps-out-heat-poses-in-hoodies-to-support-trayvon-martin/heat-hoodies-3/
props 3/23/2012 2:12:22 PM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
LOL @ the idea of trying to run down Lebron 3/23/2012 2:14:26 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder what TWW would have looked like after the murder of Emmett Till? 3/23/2012 2:18:39 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I would pull my weapon if I thought my life was in danger. And I would deserve to be arrested and charged with a crime. The question in this case is whether it should be manslaughter or murder. " |
Are you going to reply to this, DoubleDown?
Also to anyone who thinks this wasn't racially motivated:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jL72w4xiTVU#t=139s3/23/2012 2:20:09 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Are you going to reply to this, DoubleDown?" |
Sorry, I didn't see your reply. I too would defend my life without any hesitation if I truly felt it was in danger. If there is a law saying I am able to do that legally, I would not expect to be prosecuted.3/23/2012 2:24:06 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You have got to be fucking kidding me. So because blacks and latinos commit more crimes and are less often successful it's okay to cheer when OJ goes free? What the fuck kind of bullshit fuzzy logic is that. You're either a troll with extreme tenacity or an major tardmo...either way you lose." |
I wasn't saying it was right, I was trying to explain where the frustration comes from and why they might have cheered when, finally, in a highly publicized case, one of "their own" gets off on charges of murder.
To put it in an analogy you may understand, why do you cheer when UNC gets screwed over and loses a game because of a bad call by an official?3/23/2012 2:24:10 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
This is wdprice3 and DoubleDown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTDhgR3p12w 3/23/2012 2:26:45 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
This is the rest of you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLvGnro4Cgw 3/23/2012 2:28:06 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I too would defend my life without any hesitation if I truly felt it was in danger. If there is a law saying I am able to do that legally, I would not expect to be prosecuted." |
Regardless of what the law says, do you think provoking a fight and ending it by killing the defender should be punishable?3/23/2012 2:29:53 PM |
Marlo Veteran 275 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I know you like to say kid / child a lot, throw around his weight and age - but do you really think Zimmerman knew these details? Is it that hard to imagine Zimmerman knew none of these - just that he was getting his ass kicked by someone?" |
By Zimmerman's own admission, he describes Trayvon as a teenager in the 911 call. And I'm sure he knew he had a sizeable advantage on him. So, yes, Zimmerman knew those details.
Now move on to your next stupid argument.3/23/2012 2:31:45 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Regardless of what the law says, do you think provoking a fight and ending it by killing the defender should be punishable?" |
If that is what truly happened, then there should be a punishment involved. But we do not know that is what happened - those details have yet to come out.
^ don't forget to light your torch before you start your hunt, Stanfield
[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 2:35 PM. Reason : .]3/23/2012 2:33:15 PM |
Marlo Veteran 275 Posts user info edit post |
^ you keep pushing that argument, and it's not based in reality. Zimmerman describes Trayvon as a teenager. That is in direct conflict to your theory that he had "no idea" of Trayvon's age/weight.
The cops have enough to make an arrest. Zimmerman, at this point, should have to defend his actions in front of a jury
[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 2:36 PM. Reason : ] 3/23/2012 2:34:47 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But we do not know that is what happened - those details have yet to come out." |
Yeah we kind of do. He followed a person who was doing nothing wrong and the person started to run away. He continued following, and at some point exited his vehicle to pursue this person. He was obviously the aggressor.
Unless, of course, Martin decided to stop running, turn around, open Zimmerman's door, and pull him out of the car.3/23/2012 2:36:14 PM |
Marlo Veteran 275 Posts user info edit post |
I love the perversion of "self defense" here.
Trayvon shouldn't have ran! He shouldn't have fought back! He should have let Zimmerman beat the shit out of him. Zimmerman, on the other hand, somehow has the right to use lethal force to keep Trayvon subdued. Yeah, that makes sense. 3/23/2012 2:38:05 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
these guys troll like cholos
if you fight one, 3 more jump in 3/23/2012 3:05:17 PM |
LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wasn't saying it was right, I was trying to explain where the frustration comes from and why they might have cheered when, finally, in a highly publicized case, one of "their own" gets off on charges of murder." |
You're either for justice or you're not. Where were all these people then? Don't forget how Crystal Mangum was, and probably still is, supported despite trying to ruin three lives and then finally ending a fourth. Not to mention your good buddy...wait, you're Mike Nifong aren't you! I bet you are and you're still mad a those white kids who did not rape Crystal Mangum so you take it out on all us white folks.
Quote : | " To put it in an analogy you may understand, why do you cheer when UNC gets screwed over and loses a game because of a bad call by an official? " |
I don't. In fact I would rather win a game without any questionable calls or non-calls as the case may be. I never cheer for a win that is based only on one call (has this ever actually happened?)3/23/2012 3:09:39 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
If I were a black man living in Florida, and I knew that a killer of a black kid was on the loose with a gun, I'd feel threatened.
I'd have to "stand my ground", stalk Zimmerman and shoot him in the face. 3/23/2012 3:12:13 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
violence begets violence 3/23/2012 3:14:30 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
If you're caught wearing a hoodie after dark you should be executed.
It's the only way to protect our freedom.
[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM. Reason : ...] 3/23/2012 3:17:56 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "violence begets violence" |
Translation: "I'm out of arguments so I'm posting an adage that sounds nice, but doesn't answer any questions"3/23/2012 3:19:35 PM |
LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |
To me it doesn't matter that Trayvon was black and it doesn't matter that Zimmerman is latino (or hispanic I guess is technically correct). What I find scary is that people are ready to convict this guy while only knowing what the media have fed to them. You're going to base a person's life only on what you read on the internet or watched on TV...but to add to it people want (or need) it to be about race just so they can feel all butthurt and justified in making such a big deal out of it. Then act like they're all liberal and want to help blacks by convicting this guy.
I'm really starting to wonder if a bunch of you went to State because you didn't get into UNC because you're acting like a bunch of liberal, self-loathing, ass-cocks. 3/23/2012 3:20:08 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
finally, someone with a mature, well thought out opinion
that's what this conversation really needed 3/23/2012 3:25:53 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Translation: "I'm out of arguments so I'm posting an adage that sounds nice, but doesn't answer any questions"" |
What do you keep going on about? No one here is out of arguments - just because we aren't responding to your drivel as much as other's, don't take it personally3/23/2012 3:27:28 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
When I respond to you, and you avoid my response, I can only assume you have no argument. 3/23/2012 3:31:58 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""I too would defend my life without any hesitation if I truly felt it was in danger. If there is a law saying I am able to do that legally, I would not expect to be prosecuted."" |
Haha, yeah you should not be surprised, and even expect arraignment as well.
It does not say YOU 100% GET AWAY WITH IT IF YOU CLAIM SELF-DEFENSE.
[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 3:46 PM. Reason : /]3/23/2012 3:46:40 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
Yep, seems a lot like the stand your ground law in florida is bad law if it is so ambiguous that it leads to a situation like this. The law needs to be revised. Even the law's main sponsors agree that this is not the interpretation that they intended. And obviously the broad paintbrush used to write the current wording is the only thing keeping Zimmerman's ass out of jail now.
[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 4:59 PM. Reason : x] 3/23/2012 4:56:01 PM |
punchmonk Double Entendre 22300 Posts user info edit post |
The violence begets violence is so true, not sure if that was said in jest. Listening to the interviews of the parents of Trayvon, they make it abundantly clear that they want justice for the shooting, meaning an arrest and trial, not for Zimmerman to have the same fate as their son.
[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 5:10 PM. Reason : Parents words, "No eye for an eye."] 3/23/2012 5:03:59 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
I have a fear of nuns. If they follow me, can I shoot them? 3/23/2012 5:05:00 PM |
EuroTitToss All American 4790 Posts user info edit post |
No, but if you follow them you can shoot them. 3/23/2012 5:06:43 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
I've just heard for people calling for an arrest and a trial. 3/23/2012 5:08:05 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
DoubleDown: There's a bit of irony in your categorizing of those that want to see justice as a "lynch" mob, considering that word originally came about from the many lynchings that Blacks have had to deal with since they arrived on these shores from mobs of angry Whites too quick to judge.
You think people are upset because they think he's guilty, and that's mostly true, but really what people are upset about is that this man is walking free when he hasn't even been charged with a crime. If he had been charged, and then freed himself on bail, then most of this anger would not be as palpable as it is now.
[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 5:08 PM. Reason : ] 3/23/2012 5:08:11 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
If I had a son, I don't think that punchmonk would stalk him and shoot him in the chest when he was minding his own business...walking down the street. 3/23/2012 5:10:23 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
^^ It would only be ironic if I actually used the word "lynch mob". Unfortunately I didn't - so you'll need to carry this white man's burden on your own
[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 5:11 PM. Reason : ^] 3/23/2012 5:11:02 PM |
punchmonk Double Entendre 22300 Posts user info edit post |
^^especially if he shared his arizona tea and skittles with me.
[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 5:11 PM. Reason : EMCE] 3/23/2012 5:11:25 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^^ actually you've mentioned lynching twice in this thread 3/23/2012 5:15:01 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
B-B-B-BUT, WHAT ABOUT ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNFAIRLY TREATED BY THE SYSTEM! 3/23/2012 5:15:54 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
Just so God doesn't feel that the white man didn't ever get lynched, too:
Quote : | "Not all lynchings in the United States were targeted against African Americans. Between 1882 and 1968, the Tuskegee Institute recorded 1,297 lynchings of whites as well as the 3,446 lynchings of African Americans during that period." |
God and his friends who demand blood, will most likely get the blood they want.3/23/2012 5:22:44 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
B-B-BUT WHY ISNT THERE A W.E.T. ? 3/23/2012 6:23:10 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
B-B-BUT WHY CAN A WHITE MAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER? 3/23/2012 6:26:25 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
As far as I know, white people were lynched by other white people.
According to stereotypes, black people purge their communal aggression by breaking windows and setting cars on fire...not so much hanging people from trees and setting their bodies on fire.
Actually, I searched "black lynch mob," and if you scroll down past the racist sites, there's some interesting stuff about black lynch mobs in the South.
[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM. Reason : sss] 3/23/2012 6:40:04 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
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LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |
Skittles theft has increased 4000% since this incident. True story. 3/23/2012 7:07:00 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
3/23/2012 7:10:24 PM |
LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |
^ Don't be sad, I'm just trying to lighten the mood in here a bit. We've been getting too pissed at each other. In all seriousness I hope whatever the truth is, it comes out and justice gets served.
[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 7:43 PM. Reason : ,] 3/23/2012 7:42:37 PM |