Lobes85 All American 2425 Posts user info edit post |
Flex:
Boldin or Witten?
[Edited on September 27, 2012 at 5:30 PM. Reason : .] 9/27/2012 5:29:49 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Lol, cassell a top 15 QB? That's really high expectations. Top 25 maybe. Wouldn't even consider starting him over Sean hill..." |
Holy fuck, you actually are a retard.
Cassel is definitely going to score in the top half of NFL QBs. He's a damn sight better than Freeman. The Chiefs have opened with 3 difficult games. Atlanta at home, at Buffalo, and then at NO. The only reason he didn't put up big numbers against NO was because Jamal Charles was running wild.
I feel pretty confident in saying that even though he is currently 23rd in fantasy scoring he's going to end up being better than Sanchez, Locker, Ponder, Luck, RGIII, Palmer, Alex Smith, Fitzpatrick, and Vick. From a fantasy perspective he's probably on par with your Andy Dalton Tony Romo types.9/27/2012 5:52:01 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
^^Witten. Boldin has completely disappeared with the emergence of Torrey Smith. With Smith, Rice, Pitta and an emerging Jacoby Jones there just aren't enough touches for Boldin. Boldin is barely even worth a roster spot at this point.
[Edited on September 27, 2012 at 5:57 PM. Reason : asdfsd] 9/27/2012 5:54:11 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Are you fucking nuts?
You just said Matt Cassel (who has been awful for the last 1.5 years running) is going to wind up ranked ahead of RGIII who has a legitimate chance of ending the season as the #1 overall fantasy QB in many scoring systems and will definitely finish amongst the top ten.
Seriously, this is just getting ridiculous.
Good grief i just read your post again. Did you just compare Matt Cassel to Andy Dalton?!
What are your feelings on Ray Rice vs Rashad Mendenhall?
[Edited on September 27, 2012 at 6:07 PM. Reason : a] 9/27/2012 5:57:45 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Dude, RGIII plays 6 games against the Eagles, Giants, and Cowboys. The skins also play the AFC North this year, which means he gets Baltimore and Pittsburgh. If you've payed attention, RGIII has gotten worse each game. Teams are figuring him out, and he's had the good fortune of playing NO and St. Louis, 2 of the worst defenses in the NFL.
Shits about to get rough for RGIII. Here's the rest of the schedule for Washington
@TB vs. ATL vs. MIN @NYG @PITT vs. CAR vs. PHI @DAL vs. NYG vs. BAL @CLEV @PHI vs. DAL
That's a pretty rough schedule. 9/27/2012 6:06:12 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Wait a minute! You said Cassel didn't go off against the Saints because of Jamal Charles?! What?
The guy threw the ball 44 times vs the Saints who are clearly one of the worst passing defenses in the league. He averaged a terrible 5.6 yards per pass, failed to throw a single TD, had two turnovers and ended with a QB rating of 65.3
On top of how bad Cassel is, he's also an injury risk and could possibly lose his job by midseason just for being so terribly ineffective the last 1.5 years.
This has got to be the most irrational endorsement of any fantasy football player ever. 9/27/2012 6:08:06 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Again, I'm not saying Cassel is awesome, just that he'll end up as a top half of the NFL fantasy QB. Griffin will not. Oh, and as far as injury risks, at the pace he's going Griffin is going to get injured and miss at least a couple of games this year. You can't continue to get hit on every other dropback and survive. Dude took 6 sacks last week and got blow up at least another half dozen times. He's going to start 14 games tops.
If you would like to bet some lafta bucks we can.
[Edited on September 27, 2012 at 6:15 PM. Reason : asfd] 9/27/2012 6:12:22 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Of course I've been paying attention to RGIII. I've been starting him in both my 2QB leagues and I'm 6-0 in those leagues because I ignored all the retarded articles saying he wouldn't be good in fantasy this year.
For the record the Rams are one of the best passing defenses in the league and he still had a huge fantasy game, so I wouldn't be too concerned about him although I will acknowledge he has played two awful defenses in NO and KC.
Don't forget he'll get Garcon back, he will get more comfortable in the offense, and that if teams take away the pass he may just run even more.
If you want to say now's the time to sell high on RGIII then I may agree with you. But are you really saying that if you were in my league I could just go pick up Matt Cassel off waivers and you'd be willing to trade me RGIII? That deal would be shot down by protests in five minutes and we'd both be kicked out of the league next year... 9/27/2012 6:15:35 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone else care to chime in on the RGIII vs Matt Cassel who would you rather have debate?
Am I being trolled here?
Quote : | "The skins also play the AFC North this year, which means he gets Baltimore and Pittsburgh. " |
And if you'd been paying attention you'd know that Baltimore defense hasn't been very good this year and that Pittsburgh's defense has been fucking terrible. Yes I know Polamalu is hurt, but they've been one of the worst defensive units in the league. One player can't solve that.9/27/2012 6:18:25 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
RGIII will absolutely finish with more fantasy points than Cassel. So will Palmer, Luck, Locker, Ponder and Vick, provided they stay healthy. I am willing to bet at least 55 Lafta bucks.
[Edited on September 27, 2012 at 6:32 PM. Reason : 2] 9/27/2012 6:21:29 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
RGIII > Cassell
Should I take a risk and start Stafford (v MIN) since he's questionable (sounds like should play though) or just go the safe route and start Flacco (v CLE) tonight?
[Edited on September 27, 2012 at 6:48 PM. Reason : d] 9/27/2012 6:48:44 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
id start flacco. i dont like to take risks with injured guys and stafford hasnt been that good anyway 9/27/2012 7:03:14 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
^Thanks. That's what I was thinking as well. Just looking for some reassurance. 9/27/2012 7:07:28 PM |
GraniteBalls Aging fast 12262 Posts user info edit post |
12 team PPR league
Should I start Sproles or Leshoure in my flex spot? 9/27/2012 7:07:59 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Sproles. Leshoure will not have a 100 yard game against Minnesota. 9/27/2012 7:11:43 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
lol @ cassell. what a dumbass. 9/27/2012 7:14:26 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
RG3 is a Golden God
all he does is win, except for 67% of the time 9/27/2012 7:57:28 PM |
u ncsu cks All American 792 Posts user info edit post |
Flacco or Eli Manning? 9/27/2012 8:03:26 PM |
ajgoff1286 All American 2585 Posts user info edit post |
Too late now... Would've told you Eli either way..
Who to start at RB2:
BGE v Jax
Ced Benson v Saints 9/27/2012 9:11:38 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Law Firm all day long
i realize the Aints run defense is garbage, but Green Bay isn't gonna change their entire offense and finally start running the ball just because of that] 9/27/2012 9:12:18 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I'll bet you Benson outproduces BGE. Winner gets to bang the loser's wife. 9/27/2012 9:25:00 PM |
u ncsu cks All American 792 Posts user info edit post |
^^^its cool...going with Eli Manning - I have Dennis Pitta too, so didn't want to have a no-show for two players if the passing game isn't on for the Ravens.
I played BGE over Charles last week, and we saw how that ended up...however, I think it will be pretty even with those two players. (BGE vs. Benson) 9/27/2012 9:31:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
^^i accept your indecent proposal 9/27/2012 9:36:01 PM |
loudRyan All American 594 Posts user info edit post |
Possible trade:
I give Chris Johnson and Vernon Davis
I get Jamaal Charles and Tom Brady
Thoughts? Other RBs I have are D. Martin and McGahee, My other TE is Tamme, and current QB is Peyton Manning 9/28/2012 1:01:16 AM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
FUCKING DENNIS PITTA
Played him over Gates tonight. Got a big fucking donut on my box score. 9/28/2012 1:15:14 AM |
loudRyan All American 594 Posts user info edit post |
^ The guy who wants V. Davis played Pitta this week too...I can't believe he didn't get a single reception... 9/28/2012 1:27:48 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I'd do that trade. Definitely. 9/28/2012 1:36:46 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Satisfied with playing Flacco over Rivers....that rushing TD helped a lot.
Although I'm sure Philip will throw 5 TDs this weekend. 9/28/2012 8:05:29 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Lol at these trades. No one is taking your trash for Brady and Charles.
I give tony moeaki and James Jones
I get ray rice and Matt Ryan
Deal?
Eli vs philly or dalton vs jax is one of these classic fantasy decisions that I hate getting wrong. Play the man or the cards?
[Edited on September 28, 2012 at 9:20 AM. Reason : a] 9/28/2012 9:15:55 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Possible trade:
I give Chris Johnson and Vernon Davis
I get Jamaal Charles and Tom Brady
Thoughts? Other RBs I have are D. Martin and McGahee, My other TE is Tamme, and current QB is Peyton Manning" |
did someone offer you that trade? If you are the one making the offer he's going to laugh in your face. No way would I trade my two first picks from the draft for a first rounder (who is barely a flex option) and an 8th round TE.
If that trade was accepted in my league I would probably veto it, and I hate vetoing trades
^I would go with Eli, divisional game on Monday Night Football, I think he'll have a big night9/28/2012 9:33:14 AM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8424339/fantasy-football-destroying-our-perceptions-nfl-athletes
Here's an interesting article on fantasy football and how it dehumanizes the players in our eyes.
Chuck Klosterman, football talk, stats, Dylan quotes... it's a solid read. 9/28/2012 9:58:11 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "algebraic chess pieces" |
He has a good point but he doesn't have to be this priggish. I will say that I feel like I should be able to say "Fuck Jay Cutler" both as someone who drafted him and as a Bears Fan. Also he's a huge douche.
Anyway, I do try to stop myself from talking about who is ON MY TEAM whenever I'm watching an NFL game. Nobody fucking cares but me.
[Edited on September 28, 2012 at 10:08 AM. Reason : .]9/28/2012 10:04:16 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Thoughts on WR3 this week?
PPR 0.5: Michael Crabtree (@NYJ), Mike Williams (v WAS), Pierre Garcon (@TB).
Right now I'm leaning Crabtree since it's a PPR league and he's had a solid season so far, just hasn't found the end zone yet. Williams does have a favorable matchup though. And Garcon had a huge Week 1 but has been hurt since and is listed as questionable this week.
And since Nicks is now listed as doubtful:
Steve Smith (@ATL) or Jordy Nelson (v. NO)?
[Edited on September 28, 2012 at 2:54 PM. Reason : d] 9/28/2012 2:44:26 PM |
moonman All American 8685 Posts user info edit post |
Guy approaches me in 12 team PPR wanting RGIII. My backup QB is Eli.
I need RBs; he has plenty.
He offered Marshawn Lynch or Doug Martin.
I'm thinking about countering with Lynch and Mikel Leshoure for RGIII and maybe Shonn Greene.
My RBs: Steven Jackson, Deangelo Williams, Shonn Greene, Peyton Hillis, Felix Jones His: Lynch, Martin, Leshoure, Forte, Spiller
I really hate to give up Griffin, but I'm going to get burned at RB soon if I don't do something. Thoughts? 9/29/2012 11:59:36 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
If he would accept that (lynch, leshoure for griffin and green) then i'd do it. Eli isn't a bad option at QB at all. And you desperately need the RB help.
Thoughts on ^^? 9/29/2012 12:36:53 PM |
ussjbroli All American 4518 Posts user info edit post |
Who to start at TE
Gates vs. KC or Rudolph vs. DET
Gates has been nothing for me so far this season, and ponder and rudolph seem to be hooking up more each week. DET has also given up a ton to TEs this year. i'm leaning towards rudolph but feel like gates is due to actually contribute. i also have floyd as a WR so if i start rudolph i'd kinda like gates to not do well and floyd to get more points. 9/29/2012 2:06:49 PM |
DjGohan All American 2585 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^garcon and smith
^^^lynch and leshoure sounds like a great deal if you can get it. lynch is lynch and it looks like leshoure is going to get a solid number of touches per game. i really like eli too so your net gain should be pretty good if you can get at least 1 solid back since most of yours are pretty weak.
^anyone but Gates
Pick 1 each (.5 PPR league)
Dalton (@Jac) or Brady (@Buf)? (I'm leaning Dalton)
Andre Brown (@Philly), Pierre Thomas or Mark Ingram (@ GB) (I'm leaning Brown). Ray Rice played Thurs for
[Edited on September 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM. Reason : ^] 9/29/2012 2:14:58 PM |
1985 All American 2175 Posts user info edit post |
GET: Boldin and cam newton
for
Eli manning and Andre brown
I already have gore, turner, mccoy and Ryan williams as RB and Im desperate for a WR. 9/29/2012 9:21:43 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
do it, buying Cam low 9/29/2012 9:26:01 PM |
loudRyan All American 594 Posts user info edit post |
flex start Chris Johnson, Jerome Simpson, Daryl Richardson, or Bilal Powell? 9/29/2012 9:44:19 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
^ I'm going Powell this week, but it's a bad matchup. It could be the week Powell finally takes over as lead back and I'm just hoping he gets a few goal line touches. 9/29/2012 11:28:59 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
Ultimate 1st world fantasy problem (though my rbs are 3rd world)...
RGIII vs Tampa Peyton vs Oakland 9/29/2012 11:34:36 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^should be obvious 9/29/2012 11:58:52 PM |
Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
^^you should trade one if your RBs suck that bad. 9/30/2012 12:55:01 AM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
Been burning the midnight oil making deals
.5 ppr 14 team league original roster:
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/(WR-RB-TE)/TE/K/DEF
QB Romo RB A Morris RB D Brown RB Shonn Greene RB R Williams RB T Gerhart RB R Grant WR AJ Green WR B Marshall WR W Welker WR D Amendola WR Torrey Smith WR R Barden TE Jason Witten TE Heath Miller
i just traded donald brown and danny amendola for Big Ben and michael turner
Then traded B Marshall, T Romo, Torrey Smith, and Shonn Greene (to a guy who has Vick as his QB) for Calvin Johnson, Fred Jackson, and ryan fitzpatrick (to use this week)
So now:
QB Big Ben QB Fitz RB A Morris RB F Jackson RB M Turner RB R Williams RB T Gerhart RB R Grant WR AJ Green WR Megatron WR W Welker WR WR WR R Barden TE Jason Witten TE Heath Miller
A good reorg, i think we all can agree but depth has definitely taken a hit
[Edited on September 30, 2012 at 1:07 AM. Reason : j] 9/30/2012 1:05:42 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27841 Posts user info edit post |
I think that second trade hurt your team more than it helped. 9/30/2012 8:20:22 AM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
So should I sit Gates for Celek this week? Gates has gotta break out for a big game at some point this year, but I need a big day out of my TE bc my RB's suck.
And I picked up Tashard Choice for one of my teams but now it looks like Jackson and Spiller could play. Would anyone start DeAngelo Williams over Choice this week?
[Edited on September 30, 2012 at 9:12 AM. Reason : .....] 9/30/2012 9:07:43 AM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
Better flex play? Andre Brown against the Eagles Colston again Green Bay
[Edited on September 30, 2012 at 10:07 AM. Reason : ?] 9/30/2012 10:07:45 AM |
DjGohan All American 2585 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " ^anyone but Gates
Pick 1 each (.5 PPR league)
Dalton (@Jac) or Brady (@Buf)? (I'm leaning Dalton)
Andre Brown (@Philly), Pierre Thomas or Mark Ingram (@ GB) (I'm leaning Brown). Ray Rice played Thurs for
[Edited on September 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM. Reason : ^]" |
I answered 3. How about a couple on my question.
^i'd go brown, b/c he has been so impressive. I think his potential is greater. Colston is probably the safer bet for a few points9/30/2012 10:15:13 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
dalton and thomas
jets D vs niners or st louis D vs seattle? 9/30/2012 10:38:52 AM |