TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "anyone else want Chris Collins?" |
[Edited on March 16, 2017 at 10:52 PM. Reason : .]3/16/2017 10:49:26 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Vcu and Uncw lost. If Dayton loses tomorrow we might have a coach by Saturday. Of course it wouldn't be too impressive for all our candidates to be one and done. 3/16/2017 10:59:57 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I get the feeling Keatts is the realistic front runner right now unless Archie shocks everyone..." |
I thought Wade was a better hire than Keatts...Are you doing that sample size of one thing too about the VCU game tonight?3/16/2017 11:06:23 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37674 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Dayton loses tomorrow we might have a coach by Saturday" |
Nope3/16/2017 11:28:38 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
It's Archie y'all. Always been Archie. 3/17/2017 9:08:44 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure Archie is waiting with baited breath to be welcomed back into the arms of the fanbase that referred to him as a wigger, made fun of him for being a cuck, and ostracized his coach.
It's not impossible he comes here but i'll be surprised. ] 3/17/2017 9:58:42 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I thought Wade was a better hire than Keatts...Are you doing that sample size of one thing too about the VCU game tonight?" |
I guess you took a sample size of just one of my posts and responded to it here. I've said in earlier pages that I got the feeling Keatts was now the front runner anyway and Pack Pride articles were gearing us up to accept that fact. I've also made game threads for other VCU games this season and watched several of their games.
I also said nothing about who was the better hire, just who from reading and hearing shit from all over the place that I get the feeling is in the lead. I think we could have both but may intentionally take Keatts.
They're pretty much neck and neck. Wade has better Kenpom numbers and plays in a better league. He's firey, recruits well, and grinds. However, he also inherited a pretty good program that has been among the top of that league for a while. The big question is if he was a major driving force behind Shaka's success and it's kind of been him winning all along. That's a big question. They've also strugged to win when it counts (like vs. Dayton, their conference final, and the NCAAT). With Keatts you have a guy that came in and took a dumpster fire and turned it into a conference champion in year one. That's impressive. Then he repeats that in successive years and gets the tournament wins too. His stats aren't as good on paper, and the CAA isn't as good as the A10 but he's won a lot with a little. The questions for him are can he translate the success to a high level and are the defensive stats a product of inferior talent, or his coaching.
I've said all along that I hope Archie comes but I really doubt it. Getting blown out tonight might help us out and change things up. After that, I was more in the Wade camp but I really like what I've seen and read about Keatts recently so I think they're both fine hires.
[Edited on March 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM. Reason : a game thread, to be fair]3/17/2017 9:59:22 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
It all comes down to the Debbie Yow classic. 3/17/2017 10:13:43 AM |
Fishstix76 Starting Lineup 79 Posts user info edit post |
3/17/2017 10:42:59 AM |
Fishstix76 Starting Lineup 79 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/Geezy1526/status/841182410171637761/photo/1 3/17/2017 10:44:28 AM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
^My man, you are about a week behind on that news. 3/17/2017 10:48:47 AM |
Fishstix76 Starting Lineup 79 Posts user info edit post |
No, just think that it has to mean something. I wasn't trying to "break" anything. When you combine that with his wife being pictured giving the wolf sign the day Yow announced Gottfried was finished, makes me think he's coming. 3/17/2017 10:51:10 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
^no disrespect but
[Edited on March 17, 2017 at 10:58 AM. Reason : s] 3/17/2017 10:58:18 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Dude Giglio tweeted 30 minutes ago that Archie isn't interested and Sean is advising him not to come.
God damn it 3/17/2017 11:02:53 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "At least part of Sean Miller's Archie/State stance, according to a source, is Sean believes there's a chance he could be UNC's next coach
Joe Giglio?Verified account @jwgiglio 33m
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OH FUCK ME RIGHT IN THE DICK3/17/2017 11:06:56 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
He posted a picture of him with a coach we ran out of town... why did anyone see that as positive?? I felt like it was a reminder of what happened the last time he was here 3/17/2017 11:06:59 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39298 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He posted a picture of him with a coach we ran out of town... why did anyone see that as positive?? I felt like it was a reminder of what happened the last time he was here" |
Archie didn't post the picture
anyways
today's news is a real bummer, but makes sense3/17/2017 11:11:30 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
^ agree 3/17/2017 11:14:51 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
3/17/2017 11:17:16 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25503 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think that news (that it's Wade/Keatts most likely) is too surprising. Archie always seemed like a bit of a longshot. only thing that bothers me is the Sean Miller/UNC stuff. that's kinda bullshit. like, there could be one hundred different reasons Archie doesn't wanna come here or many reasons that Sean would advise him against the job (since Sean actually coached here)...but wanting your brother to not take a job because you *might* be a candidate for a rival job at some point in the future is pretty silly IMO. 3/17/2017 11:26:22 AM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Who cares where Sean coaches. Can't coach against his brother? 3/17/2017 11:28:33 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Packpride Admin is saying we have picked up steam with Archie as close as yesterday at 7pm. and now Giglio says this shit.
Who fucking cares until the end
Archie may be a plus. Keatts will be the likely. Lets grab our popcorn. We should have a coach by tuesday. 3/17/2017 11:31:41 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Archie to Indiana. Keatts to Illinois. NC State gets no soup. 3/17/2017 11:33:00 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
yeah that's some little bitch shit if it's true
"haha sorry little bro, don't coach at your alma mater because I'll be at their rival down the road in a couple of years and you don't want to be in my shadow because I'll out recruit you and out coach you. better stick with the B1G"
also I feel like Archie shouldn't have let this drag out this long if that is the case. 3/17/2017 11:33:17 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39298 Posts user info edit post |
in the instances of brothers coaching against each other across all sports, they usually talk about how awful it is to coach against each other
it's easy to see why two brothers wouldn't want to coach against each other in a heated rivalry twice a year
family dynamics can be difficult 3/17/2017 11:39:05 AM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Roy retires, Sean to UNC, K retires in another year, Archie to Duke. 3/17/2017 11:39:28 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
^ 3/17/2017 11:40:48 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
so one guy's #source says Archie considers NCSU a dream job...another guy's #source says he's not interested
[Edited on March 17, 2017 at 11:48 AM. Reason : WHO TO BELIEVE????]] 3/17/2017 11:46:09 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "3/17 UPDATE: We have removed Cuonzo Martin, who is now the head coach at Missouri. We've also removed Ed Cooley, Scott Drew, Chris Holtmann, Richard Pitino, Gregg McDermott, and Steve Prohm. We think NC State's focus has been narrowed.
The candidates that we believe remain in the mix are Archie Miller, Will Wade, Kevin Keatts, and Pat Kelsey. From what I've gathered through multiple sources, Kevin Keatts has already interviewed for the job. I think Wade/Kelsey will as well, likely as early as today.
Archie remains a wildcard, pending when they lose. I've left him on the board because I continue to hear he'll have some sort of dialogue with NC State.
However, I think we could see NC State move on if they don't have a great feel for his situation so they don't lose one of the other options. I don't think NC State wants to be burned.
Personally, I see things moving quickly, especially with the jobs opening. I believe the Wade interview is huge... remember, his agent is the same as Gottfried, Avent, and Doeren's so I would think Yow probably has a good feel of where he stands going in.
I believe he is the one to keep an eye on." |
this is post-Giglio tweets. also Moxley just started following Wade on Twitter fwiw
[Edited on March 17, 2017 at 11:49 AM. Reason : twitters]3/17/2017 11:47:52 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
Don't get upset about this Archie/UNC stuff.
One, it's just rumors. Two, UNC is one of the two or three best jobs in college basketball. 3/17/2017 12:08:00 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
ARE WE HAVING FUN YET?! 3/17/2017 12:18:35 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "also I feel like Archie shouldn't have let this drag out this long if that is the case." |
well...for all we know, he hasn't let it drag out. he could've easily told the search firm that he's not interested 2 weeks ago. compared to previous searches, this one has been pretty quiet in terms of public denials and public rumors swirling. which can really only be a positive, imo.
Quote : | "n the instances of brothers coaching against each other across all sports, they usually talk about how awful it is to coach against each other
it's easy to see why two brothers wouldn't want to coach against each other in a heated rivalry twice a year
family dynamics can be difficult
" |
i completely understand that. what is silly about it is, if Archie really wants this job (he may not want this job at all, idk) his brother asking him to not take this job because in maybe 5 years Sean might be a candidate at our rival is kinda silly. again, Archie may have zero interest in this job. and that's fine if that's the case. but if he really wants it, his brother is asking a lot by asking Archie to turn down this job that is open right now on the chance that Sean becomes UNC's coach at some point in the unknown future. granted, i realize that probably won't be the only factor for Archie making his decision. but that just seems pretty lame...first come, first serve and all that. if Archie wants it, he should take it...and then Sean can factor that into his decision if UNC comes calling in the future. not the other way around.
[Edited on March 17, 2017 at 12:19 PM. Reason : j]3/17/2017 12:19:11 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
^exactly 3/17/2017 12:23:32 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
Would make sense that Sean Miller has his eye on the UNC job...I already don't like that smarmy fuck...him working for UNC would just be a natural progression. 3/17/2017 12:25:43 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25503 Posts user info edit post |
or i guess it could be Archie, not Sean, thinking..."if i take this job i'll possibly be coaching against my brother in 5 years and i don't wanna do that". so maybe it's not Sean asking Archie to not take the job, but just part of Archie's line of thinking because he knows Sean may covet the UNC job.
but i just feel like all that is so far in the future and so unknown it would have to be a very small, pretty insignificant factor in Archie's decision.
totally can't blame Sean Miller for wanting the UNC job...it's one of the best jobs in basketball. but, man...if we were even halfway decent...ESPN would hype the hell out of that UNC-State/Miller-Miller game 2-3 times/year
[Edited on March 17, 2017 at 12:27 PM. Reason : f] 3/17/2017 12:26:23 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe, just once, something will work out where the ncaa does something to unc and it's not as desirable of a job.. 3/17/2017 12:33:34 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
about that..
If it's true Sean thinks he'll be in after Roy then it kind of speaks volumes that the coaching circles believe nothing will happen to UNC sanction-wise.
[Edited on March 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM. Reason : unless that doesn't deter him] 3/17/2017 12:38:47 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
No matter what they do to UNC, it will still be a great job because of 1) all those alumni with successful pro careers that come back to campus 2) JORDAN 3/17/2017 12:38:48 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
holy shit guys, i just noticed something
there was a clue in the grundy pic that no one noticed:
ARCHIE IS GOING TO BE OUR NEXT COACH! 3/17/2017 12:46:40 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Personally, I see things moving quickly, especially with the jobs opening. I believe the Wade interview is huge... remember, his agent is the same as Gottfried, Avent, and Doeren's so I would think Yow probably has a good feel of where he stands going in." |
Done deal.3/17/2017 1:16:22 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37674 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so one guy's #source says Archie considers NCSU a dream job...another guy's #source says he's not interested
[Edited on March 17, 2017 at 11:48 AM. Reason : WHO TO BELIEVE????] " |
About 30 guy's sources say he will be a tough get, only one guy says it's his dream job...WHO TO BELIEVE3/17/2017 1:17:14 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37674 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Jon Rothstein ? @JonRothstein NC State will meet today with UNC-Wilmington's Kevin Keatts, per multiple sources. Has emerged as a primary candidate to fill vacancy. 12:55 PM - 17 Mar 2017" |
Seems to disagree with guy that says they've already interviewed, but same jist3/17/2017 1:23:55 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
the sean to UNC excuse makes absolutely zero sense
which sounds right because giglio loves to get you people worked up 3/17/2017 1:24:49 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Chancellor is meeting with Keatts today in Raleigh.
Looks like it's Keatt's as the next NC State head coach.
[Edited on March 17, 2017 at 1:29 PM. Reason : g] 3/17/2017 1:25:52 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/north-carolina-state-will-meet-kevin-keatts/
Quote : | "North Carolina State will meet with UNC-Wilmington head coach Kevin Keatts on Friday, multiple sources told FanRag Sports. This is due to the head coaching vacancy the Wolfpack are looking to fill, as Keatts has emerged as the primary candidate to fill that void." |
[Edited on March 17, 2017 at 1:27 PM. Reason : THE]3/17/2017 1:27:17 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
That is a terrible sentence. Whoever wrote that shouldn't be a paid writer. 3/17/2017 1:29:36 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
multiple people now confirming he's our primary and they're meeting today face to face. looks like we may have a new coach by days end, boys. 3/17/2017 1:36:40 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " it will still be a great job because of 1) all those alumni with successful pro careers that come back to campus 2) JORDAN 3) 6 national championships" |
3/17/2017 1:38:38 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Don't get upset about this Archie/UNC stuff.
One, it's just rumors. Two, UNC is one of the two or three best jobs in college basketball." |
Three, it's complete and total bullshit and a horrible trolling attempt.3/17/2017 1:40:16 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Giglio hasn't been the trolling type. 3/17/2017 1:42:30 PM |