^^ lol

I love linux as a pc OS because i can mess with a lot and sure... i mess up some stuff every now and then... ohh shit my new driver doesn't work with my sound card... ...

But seriously android is awesome in that same way... but i'm not willing to take the risk of fucked up drivers or glitchy software on my phone.

6/15/2012 10:30:09 AM

My argument wasn't that people are using a lot of different versions of Android, just that it isn't hell.

If you have a high end device, odds are you're going to have the latest version of Android at a reasonable time after release till your phone becomes obsolete. Can it run a newer version of Android past the extent of manufacturer support? Sure. Should it? Probably not. ICS is much different than Gingerbread. It's more hardware intensive.

6/15/2012 11:30:58 PM

Quote :

"My argument wasn't that people are using a lot of different versions of Android, just that it isn't hell."

That's your opinion. Obviously not everyone shares it. Actually, if I had to guess I'd say the number of people that do share it is roughly 7%.

Quote :

"If you have a high end device, odds are you're going to have the latest version of Android at a reasonable time after release till your phone becomes obsolete."

That's not even an opinion. That's just straight up, 100%, factually based, incorrect. I get that you like Android, but you're not even living on the same planet as the rest of us if you can make a statement like that with a straight face.

6/16/2012 1:03:08 AM

Just look at the fragmentation.

You have 7% of Android users on ICS. Why? ~10% of current Android phones in realistically should run ICS, and it takes time for a manufacturer to create their modification of Android. It has to be stable for a completely different hardware, and an improvement on previous user experience. It has to do that, as well as pass whatever ridiculous testing the carrier wants to do on it to make sure the update doesn't make the phone break what their idea of the experience should be (as well as doesn't break their network).

65% of Android users use Gingerbread. For most phones released before ICS, this is the most advanced software their phone should realistically use. Gingerbread allows you access to pretty much every app ever. That's why it's not fragmentation hell. As long as you weren't stupid enough to be on a phone that hasn't gotten to Gingerbread yet (or even Froyo for that matter, which also can pretty much use every app ever, accounting for 21%) you don't really miss out on anything your phone can handle.

That leaves like 6% of the android user base being retarded and using a pre-froyo device. They might be going though hell, but they're also retarded for keeping around a super old device that sucks.

If you took a step back and realized how much time and effort it takes to get software developed for a specific phone at the quality a phone manufacturer has to release it, you'd see why either you have the update at a reasonable time, or your phone is obsolete.

6/16/2012 2:48:29 AM

^ = fragmentation hell.

6/16/2012 9:45:20 AM

99% of android apps can run on Froyo, GB, ICS, etc

its not really a big deal, its more aesthetics and bells and whistles

and as far as the 99% of apps comment, I don't have any stats to support this, just my own experience...the only apps I know of that don't run on all 3 of those OS's are Chrome which isn't available on older OS's (though there are tons of browser alternatives and the only real plus of Chrome is being able to pull up webpages open in Chrome on other devices) and HBO Go which is the opposite, and isn't available on newer OS's for some reason

[Edited on June 16, 2012 at 9:58 AM. Reason : .]

6/16/2012 9:50:49 AM

Quote :

"fell into the water on saturday with my iphone in my pocket, only the apple bumper case surrounding it. was probably submerged for about 10-15 seconds. touch screen wouldn't respond for about an hour or two, so i couldnt turn it off...but after about two hours drying in the sun it worked just fine, minus a bit of discoloration on the top left part of the screen. within 24 hours that had dried up and it's now completely back to normal and functional. moral of the story even though i have insurance, i am one lucky bastard."

one thing i have noticed is a dramatic loss in battery life. do we think that it's possible the water could have affected the cells of the battery to diminish its capability to hold a charge?

6/19/2012 10:56:36 AM

how are the iOS 6 maps in the US? in Australia they are abysmal - i basically have to use my wife's phone to search for things now

6/19/2012 7:14:19 PM

^maybe i'm missing something, but isn't this not being released until the fall?

6/20/2012 4:17:24 PM

can get beta

6/20/2012 4:21:26 PM

iOS6 beta is available to developers and people who know that The Pirate Bay is a thing, but it's not even recommended for developers except on devices specifically being used to test apps in development.

6/21/2012 7:56:37 AM

Quote :

"one thing i have noticed is a dramatic loss in battery life. do we think that it's possible the water could have affected the cells of the battery to diminish its capability to hold a charge?"

possibly a short somewhere in the phone.

6/22/2012 9:06:49 AM

yeah, i guess, maybe. but i mean it's otherwise completely functional. oh well. i have insurance and all that, but it will suffice until the fall for the (hopefully) hardware update.

6/22/2012 10:13:22 AM

Gave in and paid the $150 for to replace my 2 year old iPhone 4. Yay working home button and new battery! Seems more responsive overall as well.

6/24/2012 6:44:51 PM

My new favorite sbsettings theme:

6/26/2012 11:35:46 AM

^what is this and how do I get it?

6/26/2012 12:00:00 PM

Jailbreak

6/26/2012 12:10:30 PM

Just an sbsettings theme. That and lockinfo are the main reasons I jailbreak. Also five icon dock and 5 column springboard.

-Also if you haven't jailbroken your iPhone yet you're crazy. It's so easy now and things like lockinfo and sbsettings are things that just should be integrated into iOS and it's crazy they haven't been yet.

Also there's now ncsettings:



Which adds the settings toggles straight to the iOS notification center.

http://www.redmondpie.com/ncsettings-for-iphone-brings-an-array-of-frequently-used-settings-to-ios-5-notification-center/

I mean seriously. Apple makes you go into settings->general->bluetooth->switch to turn on/off bluetooth. It hasn't changed iOS's release. Horrible.

[Edited on June 26, 2012 at 12:33 PM. Reason : s]

6/26/2012 12:27:56 PM

Quote :

"Also there's now ncsettings: Which adds the settings toggles straight to the iOS notification center. "

I never could figure out how that was any different from sbsettings except for with smaller icons with no labels or the ability to prioritize your toggles. Basically inferior in every way.

6/26/2012 12:51:47 PM

http://www.ben-evans.com/post/25018870345/fragmentation-and-segmentation?4d039930

Decent article about fragmentation and how Apple is using the artificial removal of features to create segmentation between different iPhone models. My favorite part:

Quote :

"Android fragmentation is a serious problem for developers, since they face a massively fragmented user base, though it is rather less of a problem for Google, since a forked fragmented screwed-up Android phone still has a web browser and a data package and so is still generating Adsense eyeballs. Indeed, a helpful way to think about this is that Apple makes money from great apps by selling the hardware to run them, while Google loses money from great apps, since they lead to less web search. "

6/26/2012 4:13:35 PM

Quote :

"I never could figure out how that was any different from sbsettings except for with smaller icons with no labels or the ability to prioritize your toggles. Basically inferior in every way."

I think you're missing the point. If you ONLY want to use the iOS notification center then ncsettings adds it to that so you don't have 2 separate windows (notification center + sbsettings).

6/26/2012 4:22:54 PM

Sorry, I should have said "I never could figure out how that was any different from the sbsettings NC widget except for with smaller icons with no labels or the ability to prioritize your toggles. Basically inferior in every way."

I forgot the old thing that was sbsettings even existed any more because once iOS 5 came out I stopped using it, so now when I think of sbsettings, I just think of the Notification Center widget. I agree having both is dumb, which is why I don't even have a way to activate sbsettings via Activator.

6/26/2012 5:36:40 PM

Ah gotcha. Makes sense.


[Edited on June 27, 2012 at 11:08 AM. Reason : s]

6/27/2012 10:40:49 AM

I still have them separate. I tried them together and it took me longer on average to make adjustments. I rarely find myself needing to use a feature of the notification center AND sbsettings at the same time so I'd rather keep them separate for convenience. Lumping them together just seems to clutter things.

6/27/2012 11:23:12 AM

Okay...just jail broke my Verizon 4S today and put NCSetting on it. I don't know how to modify the setting to get the Toggling and kill applications icons...any help?

nm

[Edited on June 30, 2012 at 8:09 PM. Reason : enable it in notification settings]

6/30/2012 8:07:49 PM

any recommended cydia apps?

6/30/2012 9:44:03 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/04/belkin-wemo-hands-on/

Sold.

7/4/2012 4:41:05 PM

lost my iphone 4 yesterday
it still has charge, it rings and find my iphone shows it at some place i havent been (guess someone found it and doesnt want to return it)

7/5/2012 12:15:24 PM

send a text asking them to call you or return the phone...


if they don't call the cops. because it's now stollen.

give the cops the address.

7/5/2012 2:18:38 PM

yeah, why not just go to the address and see where it is?

id def call the cops and tell them it was stolen and you know the address.

seems like the common sense thing to do.

7/5/2012 2:43:39 PM

^ & ^^

do that.

there's also that "make an obnoxious noise for 2 mins straight" option w/ Find my iPhone...

7/5/2012 3:32:33 PM

Hey El Nachó, it's the iphone5 :



[Edited on July 12, 2012 at 12:15 PM. Reason : .]

7/12/2012 12:15:19 PM

Assuming this is real...it looks like the phone is going to have a goofy aspect ratio. I am not sure how excited I am about that.

7/12/2012 2:30:52 PM

It's supposed to be a couple of pixels taller than a true 16x9, IIRC.

7/12/2012 4:38:44 PM

yeah i'm posting an android-related post in the iphone thread

Quote :

"and HBO Go which is the opposite, and isn't available on newer OS's for some reason"

now available on my HP Touchpad with bootleg ICS

or any device with ICS afaik

7/12/2012 10:14:34 PM

Quote :

"ncsufanalum say what you will but the difference between the 4s and 3gs doesn't mean much in terms of user experience..the camera is still not the best and the screen is still the same size..if the battery life was 2-4x better and the screen was an inch or two bigger that would make it a much better phone 1/28/2012 7:22:47 PM "

Quote :

" El Nachó You, sir, are clearly out of your God damned mind. The bump in screen resolution alone is worth the cost of an upgrade. As is the bump in processing power. Neither of them might not be super noticeable when upgrading, but just try going back for a week and then see how you feel about it. I agree that the camera isn't the best, Any digital camera over $300 is going to be better, but, oh wait, when you're comparing it to cell phones, it actually is one of the best available. Of course everyone would like better battery life, but in most real world comparisons, it's better than most, and not everyone actually wants a bigger screen. I see people with those giant Android phones and wonder how they even reach the middle of the screen when holding it with one hand. I'd like to see the same sized phone with a screen that runs all the way to the edge, but I (and from studies I've read most other iPhone owners) am perfectly content with the size of my screen. 1/29/2012 2:03:41 AM "

[Edited on July 15, 2012 at 11:25 PM. Reason : ]

7/15/2012 11:23:05 PM

Did you have a point, or were you just trying to remind me what an idiot you are?

7/16/2012 6:44:57 AM

Yeah I'd have to agree with El Nachó. There's a huge difference in user experience moving from the 3gs to the 4s.

7/16/2012 9:15:29 AM

^ oh yeah, that is HUGE

7/16/2012 4:01:29 PM

The screen resolution bump alone was a huge difference. My 10 year old palm pilot had a 3.5" display at 320 by 480 just like the 3gs. Finally getting an upgrade in resolution was a drastic change at least for me.

7/16/2012 4:07:29 PM

I wonder how much longer this will work: http://jailbreakstation.com/how-to-crack-in-app-purchase-zond80-hack.html

7/16/2012 10:00:02 PM

i am so ready for a new phone. hurry the fuck up already!

7/18/2012 9:27:14 PM

just got this in the mail...

http://www.amazon.com/Eton-NSP500B-Soulra-System-iPhone/dp/B004YAVDTE

there was a Groupon that knocked it down to $150. It is reallllly good. Completely surprised at the sound quality and the solar part worked right away, didnt have to let it charge up at all, was charging the boombox, my phone and playing instantly.

Really well designed too, like the dock swivel to make it easy to remove the phone, there is a protective cover for the phone that you can still see through when you have it in place, theres even a dock for the remote underneath the solar panel. Pretty well thought out IMO

7/19/2012 3:28:34 PM

^ Damn too bad the new iPhone will have a smaller 19-pin connector port.

7/23/2012 3:56:06 PM

Opens a whole new accessory market. iPhone dock pin adapters. haha.

[Edited on July 23, 2012 at 4:24 PM. Reason : s]

7/23/2012 4:24:10 PM

^ yup, wont be a problem. And theres plenty of room to fit in an adapter, had to have enough room for the mammoth Droid phones

[Edited on July 23, 2012 at 5:30 PM. Reason : d]

7/23/2012 5:29:44 PM

bwahahahaha

http://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/x4snx/after_a_restless_6_month_wait_i_finally_received/

7/25/2012 7:43:32 PM

So no one on TWW is talking about the projected release of the "iPhone 5" on September 12th?

http://wraltechwire.com/business/tech_wire/news/story/11373865/

7/31/2012 5:29:55 PM

it looks like...the iphone 4....and the 4s....nothing to talk about. move along.

7/31/2012 5:41:53 PM

^^i personally don't really pay much attention to rumors of what the new version of the iPhone may be, for obvious reasons...they're just rumors. Apple doesn't leak info beforehand (unless they lose the device, which is a different situation) & lots of folks have gotten their hopes up in the past just to be disappointed at launch. I'll wait & get excited about it on sept 12.

7/31/2012 11:07:37 PM