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"are you fucking joking? bruce wayne somehow, all by himself mind you, programmed every phone in gotham to send back to him sonar signals (a feature that i can only assume was not built into the phones already), which were then rendered into a 3D model of any place he could possibly want to see, and then projected over his own eyes."

So what's your point?

[Edited on July 19, 2008 at 3:05 AM. Reason : f]

7/19/2008 3:05:29 AM

it was a response to a statement.

did you read the statement?

7/19/2008 3:09:40 AM

freaking AMAZING movie. gonna see it again, but in IMAX.

oh, and for the geeks:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/19/screen-grabs-nokias-xpressmedia-5800-tube-plays-big-role-in/

7/19/2008 3:10:33 AM

I could see them doing Bane. They could end the film with a cliffhanger as Batman's back is broken. What about Killer Croc?

7/19/2008 3:17:38 AM

Great movie (only complaint was the sonar device). Definitely check it out at the IMAX. I'd pay $12 just for the opening city shot. If you are going to see it IMAX here are some things to be aware of:

1. Get to the theatre about 2.5 hours before the show. My girlfriend and I were 3rd and 4th in line and we ended up getting the back row middle. Perfect seats.
2. Take some cards, books, or a bunch of friends to pass the time.
3. Check the ticket. The two girls in front of us who were 1st and 2nd in line found out that their tickets were for July 25th and not tonight. Not sure if they got in since it was sold out but I'd hate to wait nearly three hours for nothing.

As for the next villain, I do hope they stick to something more grounded in reality. Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Batman_enemies for an idea of who they will use next. I'd say Riddler/Cluemaster would be ruled out because of being too similar to Joker. I hope they do keep Two-Face dead. Harley-Quinn wouldn't be bad if they want a female opponent (who I would prefer over Catwomen) and that would tie together with the previous film a little easier. Hush/Calander Man/Hangman would be the most realistic and keep the mafia storyline going. etc.etc.etc.

oh yea, this movie makes me really appreciate Heat (my favorite crime movie ever).

[Edited on July 19, 2008 at 3:22 AM. Reason : spellingHEAT]

7/19/2008 3:18:52 AM

black mask or deadshot would be pretty 'realistic.' I'm expecting the Riddler though.

I hope two-face comes back. he is one of the more interesting villains and i feel they didn't explore his full potential in this movie. they pretty much only showed his angry evil side once he became two-face, no real arguments or conflicts between his two sides and such.

^I guess harley quinn could come and get revenge for putting joker in arkham or something since she is his ho. Catwoman could provide a love interest though i think, as opposed to Harley Quinn.

[Edited on July 19, 2008 at 3:25 AM. Reason : ds]

7/19/2008 3:25:16 AM

Quote :

"t was a response to a statement. did you read the statement?"

7/19/2008 3:25:27 AM

i don't think they should do another one, but i know they will based on money and profit.

none of the other villains really intrigue me. penguin would be fine if they kept him a normal person (like the adam west shows) instead of a deformed man

7/19/2008 7:41:27 AM

Quote :

"are you fucking joking? bruce wayne somehow, all by himself mind you, programmed every phone in gotham to send back to him sonar signals (a feature that i can only assume was not built into the phones already), which were then rendered into a 3D model of any place he could possibly want to see, and then projected over his own eyes."

Uh... if you were paying attention, they said that he had a division of Wayne Enterprises build the machine. Lucius asked him if he'd reassigned them to a government contract (even though Wayne didn't have any) and Bruce said that he was playing this one "a little closer to the vest".

Oh and the special "sonar signals" that the phones were sending back? That's sound, man. It's what phones do. The machine just boosted the signal it got back and used that to construct the map.

Even as over the top as it may be, it's a ton more realistic than a man who not only needs to remain in freezing temperatures, but has a gun that freezes things instantly. They've done a good job so far grounding his enemies in reality, I don't see why they'd completely throw it to the wind.

7/19/2008 8:09:04 AM

^I agree completely.

7/19/2008 8:11:47 AM

I agree. Although I love Mr. Freeze character in the characters, I think that his character being pulled off in the "realistic" world of Batman now. His entire concept would be difficult to pull off in this reality...at least I believe so.

I would like to see the Riddler, but he would be way to close to the Joker as many has said. Although I think it could be played off sweet if riddler would play off Joker's antics to introduce himself while working with Harley Quinn. Let them hint at Joker still getting his rocks off while in jail, but letting Riddler take the main scene.






******SPOILER*******



I at first thought Harvey D. was dead also, but I don't think they "killed" him off completely. I would like to see more of his character. It was great to see so much of his character and used correctly.




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III

7/19/2008 9:16:38 AM

anything after the credits?

7/19/2008 9:25:52 AM

No, did not see anything after credits. I stayed to watch.


III

7/19/2008 9:26:42 AM

after sleeping on it, the only thing I really had a problem with in the whole movie was his stupid little motorcycle thing..

yeah, otherwise this movie really kicked ass

7/19/2008 10:01:57 AM

Can we be 100% sure that Dent is dead?

7/19/2008 10:17:03 AM

There's no reason to assume that he's dead.

7/19/2008 10:22:25 AM

The special effects for Dent were awesome.

7/19/2008 10:41:54 AM

I think Harvey Two-Face is dead ... but Two-Face is very much alive.

7/19/2008 10:46:03 AM

He's comin back in pink latex paint.

7/19/2008 10:47:57 AM

And why all the hate on Maggie Gyllenhaal (sp?)

7/19/2008 10:51:35 AM

she kinda looks like a turtle; but still infinitely better than Katie Holmes.

7/19/2008 10:55:39 AM

i'd still hit it.

7/19/2008 10:58:39 AM

i'd hit it with the quickness

7/19/2008 11:14:12 AM

that means not much.

7/19/2008 11:14:48 AM

Agreed, but I'd probably actually get off. THAT means a shitload.

7/19/2008 11:16:45 AM

7/19/2008 11:17:23 AM

scrumplicious

7/19/2008 11:18:35 AM

Lets test everyone's creative skills.....Is there any cool way to incorporate Robin into the next film? [no homo] I'm hearing the Boy Wonder is making a comeback. [no homo]

7/19/2008 11:59:24 AM

won't happen

7/19/2008 11:59:55 AM

Gordon's little boy will be Robin

j/k

noway robin would fit in this particular world of batman

7/19/2008 12:02:03 PM

They probably won't, but they could introduce the Circus/Fair that the family is with and just show part of their act show...maybe just give a hint of Robin. Show him as a young teenager/kid and having superb ability or no fear. But don't introduce him as a sidekick yet.


III

[Edited on July 19, 2008 at 12:07 PM. Reason : .]

7/19/2008 12:03:42 PM

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2008-07-18&p=.htm

$66 million on friday

single day record

7/19/2008 12:07:43 PM

I really hope the 3rd movie is based on "The Dark Knight Returns."

This movie was fucking grim. That's probably the best way I can describe it. It was not your standard cut and dry popcorn flick.

Awesome performance by Ledger. I love Christian Bale as Batman, he's far and away the best actor to play the role. Eckhart was an excellent Harvey Dent/Twoface (I think he'll be back in the 3rd movie). I'm pretty surprised there isn't more love for Jim Gordon, I thought they really made his character very interesting.

I'm not going to post a bunch of spoilers or talk about specific details, but I might go see it again tomorrow.

7/19/2008 12:10:29 PM

Yeah, boy Robins are boring, especially the circus angle...let's throw Carrie Kelly in the third one.

7/19/2008 12:17:20 PM

seriously, if ledger hadn't dropped out, i could watch another dozen movies with his joker

7/19/2008 12:18:51 PM

Spoiler alert.........







































OK so when the Joker lets Rachel fall from the window with the party going on, I was like OK Batman has to go back up and fight the Joker because the Joker isn't just going to leave. Well it seems that what happened. So I am to believe the Joker just kinda gave up and left?

and also the Scarecrow only had a little bit of screen time then was just forgotten the rest of the movie.

Other than that very kick ass. Will see again at $1.50 before DVD release.

7/19/2008 12:20:14 PM

I don't know how they could pull off a Robin in this rendition of Batman, but I'm sure it could be done. Perhaps they could just introduce the character of Dick Grayson and have him become Bruce Wayne's ward but leave it at that for now.

7/19/2008 12:22:21 PM

I don't think they have to bring in "Robin" just introduce the character or future development and just to acknowledge his character. If they want let "Robin" show up later...if they take the series that far. But they could very well introduce Dick Grayson in a reasonable manner.


III

7/19/2008 12:26:48 PM

Unrelated, but I still kind of want to see this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiZuvJ48MZ0

[Edited on July 19, 2008 at 12:28 PM. Reason : youtube]

[Edited on July 19, 2008 at 12:30 PM. Reason : adsfasdf]

7/19/2008 12:27:45 PM

It's really a shame that Ledger died, because if they did introduce Robin they could have run something like the "A Death in the Family" story arc and have the Joker kill Robin with a fucking crowbar.

7/19/2008 12:41:38 PM

^ i'd die in an ejaculation fit

7/19/2008 12:42:16 PM

Ditto.

7/19/2008 1:36:40 PM

just saw it in IMAX this morning. i liked it even better. honestly though, while the IMAX scenes are pretty crazy, i think the sound was actually the biggest improvement over the regular theater experience. the sound was phenomenal. but yeah, the IMAX scenes were pretty crazy, especially the city view scenes. i felt like i was in a damn helicopter for the opening scene. it was pretty sweet. but yeah awesome movie, i may go see it again.

7/19/2008 1:43:55 PM

so if I didn't like batman begins at all, will I like this?

7/19/2008 2:24:21 PM

perhaps not

but you should see it anyway, because ledger is hilarious and frightening and empathetic all at once

7/19/2008 2:25:39 PM

The next film should feature the Penguin

7/19/2008 2:57:42 PM

im actually hoping its not the penguin

7/19/2008 2:58:30 PM

obviously someone else will play the joker from now on, im sure they wont let it just go away

7/19/2008 2:59:49 PM

Why not? That's how Batman works. The villains get captured and put in Arkham, and they escape every once in a while and show themselves as a challenge again...then the cycle repeats.

7/19/2008 3:12:15 PM

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Catwoman for the next movie? There are two hints dropped: first, morgan freeman says the new suit might not protect against dogs, but definitely "cats" and then gives him that O_O stare.

Second, the casefiles in Harvey's office. One of them had the name "Gotham v. S. Kyle" on it.


Probably just easter eggs, but eye-opening to be sure.

7/19/2008 3:16:12 PM