Eh, should have said something more deliberate. Guess I just don't like TOB, never really did.


III

10/4/2011 5:54:53 PM

He hates TOB but won't say it publicly. He knows he's in a much much better situation. No reason for him to have sour grapes. Although he could have gone into more detail about missing spring practice instead of just saying TOB decided to move on. That really says a lot.

10/4/2011 6:48:50 PM

I'm thinking he's reluctant to bring up the Spring stuff to protect how he's viewed when it's time for the NFL Draft

if it looks like he won't be committed to a team drafting him (i.e. he still wants to spend time on baseball), an interested NFL team could avoid taking him sooner

10/4/2011 7:01:26 PM

^
He's done with any kind of baseball career after leaving the Rockies. It's football or bust.

10/4/2011 7:05:51 PM

he's said he'd still like to do both

I think he's still part of the Rockies, according to an interview I saw/heard within the past couple weeks



im not saying he'll be able to do both, but in his mind he thinks he can

[Edited on October 4, 2011 at 7:08 PM. Reason : ]

10/4/2011 7:07:51 PM

Didn't find it on the xbox. Anything on youtube?

10/4/2011 7:53:37 PM

Check the podcast

10/4/2011 7:55:52 PM

wonder if all the positive press he's getting will influence the Rockies in taking him back

10/4/2011 8:01:45 PM

Quote :

"He's done with any kind of baseball career after leaving the Rockies. It's football or bust."

last time i checked, baseball operates on common sense, not TOB boy scout rules.

10/4/2011 8:33:56 PM

OH SNAP. If they did use common sense he wouldn't have been a second round draft pick.

10/4/2011 8:37:48 PM

^he was a 4th round pick

10/4/2011 8:55:34 PM

BOOM

10/4/2011 9:20:47 PM

10/4/2011 9:25:10 PM

front page of espn college football

Quote :

"The Russell Wilson show has been garnering critical acclaim. It hit primetime on Saturday night."

10/5/2011 10:53:06 AM

if RW does somehow win the Heisman...does Debbie Yow consider this at the end of the season for TOB?

This whole situation is epic NC State shit at it's best.

10/5/2011 10:57:04 AM

^
Despite that oddly worded sentence, I'll attempt to answer. RW winning a Heisman would hurt his credibility (deserved or not). But, a fourth losing season in 5 years will be more damning.

10/5/2011 11:02:19 AM

Him winning the Heisman should only impact her opinion of TOB in the sense that TOB couldn't put together the knd of running game that nicely compliments a QB like Wilson.

10/5/2011 11:02:52 AM

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/story/10223565/

Herbstreit on the RW situation

10/5/2011 11:12:01 AM

Mandel's mailbag

Quote :

"Where do you think Tom O'Brien's decision to run off Russell Wilson ranks among the dumbest decisions in the history of college football? -- J.D. Bolick, Denver, N.C. Believe it or not, I understand what he was doing. It certainly looks dumb right now, but the fact is Wilson had offered little indication as of last spring that he'd be back for football season. Facing a possibility that his next quarterback, Mike Glennon, might transfer if made to wait on Wilson's decision, O'Brien did what he thought was best for his program's future. Unfortunately his current team is so bad in almost every area, I'm not sure how much future O'Brien has left. Even had Wilson stayed, he wouldn't be putting up the numbers he is in Madison if surrounded by the Wolfpack's underwhelming skill players, and he'd obviously be of no help to their horrendous, injury-plagued defense. It's good for college football that we get to see what Wilson can do with a strong supporting cast. It's not so great for NC State. However, I've received numerous e-mails and tweets from Wolfpack fans who say they're rooting for Wilson and the Badgers. They say he's a good kid very deserving of this shot. The dumbest quarterback handling I've ever seen remains Dirk Koetter in 2006 naming Sam Keller his starting quarterback one day, then changing to Rudy Carpenter the next, after which Keller transferred to Nebraska and all three of their careers went down the toilet. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/10/05/mailbag.russell.wilson.free.agents/index.html#ixzz1ZvRxnf3e"

Fuck you, J.D. Bolick.

10/5/2011 12:24:29 PM

What's wrong with what he said? It's the damn truth.

10/5/2011 12:27:45 PM

nah

[Edited on October 5, 2011 at 12:34 PM. Reason : ^ Mandel or J.D. Bolick?]

10/5/2011 12:29:17 PM

My god. Someone said something nice about Wolfpack fans.

I'll try not to faint.

10/5/2011 12:30:01 PM

yeah I dont see anything incorrect in his assessment of the situation or team

10/5/2011 12:31:25 PM

i am absolutely amazed at how fairly we're being treated in all of this.

amazed.

10/5/2011 12:33:58 PM

He's also got a good point about the potential for upperclassmen to improve their draft status by hitting the books hard enough to graduate early.

Won't work for everyone, of course, but anything that helps encourage athletics right?

Also, how does Wilson affect graduations rates. Obviously he should be a positive mark for NC State, but he's not likely to get his masters degree in one year at Wisconsin playing football the whole time. Will that count against them, or is he a non-factor since he already graduated?

10/5/2011 12:34:03 PM

I still don't get it all the BS.

RW wasn't "run out of town".
What RW does at Wisconsin has no bearing on NCSU football.
If RW was still at NCSU he 1) wouldn't be having the season he is 2) we'd still suck

10/5/2011 1:11:36 PM

I believe he was saying "Fuck you" to the dude that asked the question, not the guy responding to the question accurately and fairly.

10/5/2011 1:15:30 PM

^yeah, there seems to be confusion.

Douchebag J.D. Bolic (who's probably a regular PP poster) asked a one-sentence question. Stewart Mandel gave a decent response, ahough i think he was being a little harsh. I think the team will prove in the next few games that we're not "so bad in almost every area". I think we'll prove to be "kinda bad in some areas".

[Edited on October 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM. Reason : ]

10/5/2011 1:20:05 PM

Quote :

"I believe he was saying "Fuck you" to the dude that asked the question, not the guy responding to the question accurately and fairly."

yes.

[Edited on October 5, 2011 at 1:45 PM. Reason : I guess the comma was throwing people off?]

10/5/2011 1:45:09 PM

maybe add some space between his question and Mandel's answer

10/5/2011 1:48:15 PM

^^Oh okay, I got ya now

I just read it all as one thing. My bad.

[Edited on October 5, 2011 at 2:05 PM. Reason : tiny screens on phones]

10/5/2011 1:59:28 PM

Quote :

"I think the team will prove in the next few games that we're not "so bad in almost every area"."

i am not as optimistic as you are

10/5/2011 3:49:41 PM

I don't think it's that much of a stretch.

We have CMU, a bye week, and then Virginia. Two very winnable games, and three weeks to get back up to full strength. We should be returning most of our guys on D (assuming no more injuries, which is a BIG if) and Mustafa Greene could be back as well. Our D looks serviceable with just the return of Sweezy, and it very well could improve as the season progresses. Really, if we can get a win this week (we should, anyway) and then rest on the bye and get a win against Virginia, we're looking at a 4-3 team with FSU, UNC (at home), BC, Clemson (at home), and Maryland (at home) left on the schedule. If we go 3-2 during that stretch, we go bowling, which would be a helluva accomplishment given the start of the season.

[Edited on October 5, 2011 at 4:43 PM. Reason : but more than likely maryland will rise to the occasion to shit on our hearts]

10/5/2011 4:42:12 PM

it is refreshing to hear some optimism once in a blue moon.

10/5/2011 4:45:59 PM

I hate to keep using the "excuse", but I've got to think that getting multiple key players, and more than half our D-line will have to make a difference.

10/5/2011 5:04:19 PM

Of course you've got to think that. Because dear god if no one had any hope that it would make a difference Saturdays would be insanely depressing for the rest of the fall.

10/5/2011 5:05:30 PM

I personally don't see injuries as an excuse, seems like a legitimate reason to me.

10/5/2011 6:25:47 PM

Quote :

"it wasn't enough for Wisconsin to steal our strutting mascot or to ruin our NCAA tourny run in 2005. Now they want our heisman favorite."

are you forgetting about that 40 point loss in BB last year on national tv, that was ugly as well

Quote :

"badger rape"

10/5/2011 9:40:10 PM

Quote :

"i am absolutely amazed at how fairly we're being treated in all of this. amazed."

we've been treated with kid gloves, tbh

just imagine the bitching on packpride if unc ran off a qb as good as wilson* and the media was this soft on them

*note that this is an oxymoron as unc has never and will never have such a qb

10/5/2011 11:08:13 PM

bryn renner > russell wilson + philip rivers

10/5/2011 11:44:03 PM

go back to ic plz

10/5/2011 11:44:59 PM

Here's a link to Wilson's (audio) interview on PTI a few days ago

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7060168

His interview is at the 10 minute mark

10/6/2011 12:35:33 PM

RussellManiaXVI now has a facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/RussellManiaXVI/243174285734012

i thought about putting "Wolfpack 4life, Wisconsin 4hype"

dang you can't write on the wall anymore


[Edited on October 6, 2011 at 5:11 PM. Reason : d ]

10/6/2011 5:09:57 PM

Quote :

"bryn renner > russell wilson + philip rivers"

suspend

10/6/2011 5:32:26 PM

Who wants to pull the stats? I've heard Wisconsin has one of the biggest NCAA O-lines, and bigger than many NFL teams?

10/6/2011 7:33:36 PM

I don't understand why people make so much out of that post. size isn't all that matters.

georgia has the biggest oline in the country (including nfl)
1 nfl team has a bigger oline than wisconsin
wisconsin is 3rd biggest in the nation (including nfl)

10/6/2011 7:46:43 PM

Wow, I honestly didn't know they were that big.

I realize that having a huge O-line isn't necessarily a great thing. But theirs ain't a bunch of immobile lard-asses. That transfer was definitely in is best interest.

10/6/2011 7:52:17 PM

http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=619254

continuing this here like it should be...

i do think russell will get picked up and get a shot to be a backup on an NFL team...

next....

10/12/2011 1:46:14 PM

I heard he's on the front page of espn.com

10/12/2011 2:00:07 PM

10/14/2011 6:02:23 PM