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pack_bryan
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"graduating debt free in college is a great a accomplishment but it by no means makes you a billionaire"

lol

"americans working as hard as you have been ripped off"

lol

"that university on a resume is going to be a disadvantage to you"

lol

"and unless you win the lottery or have good connections you won't make it into the 1%"

lol

"the movement is not a bunch of lazy americans"

lol

"we are fighting a system that is unfair"

lol

"do not pay attn to the media"

lol

"these awesome people are angry that they were ripped off"

lol

"corporate greed"

lol. wtf is corporate greed? scrooge mcduck diving in a vault of gold coins?? lol

10/27/2011 2:40:32 PM

BigHitSunday
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^^^^^^now that I took the time to read.

Fuck. Yes.

10/27/2011 2:41:19 PM

ActionPants
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Ah yes, the vaunted "lol" defense

Because if there's one thing TWW hates in its political discussions, it's substance

10/27/2011 2:54:06 PM

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Wait, so are we pretending like trickle down economics works now?

[Edited on October 27, 2011 at 2:57 PM. Reason : L]

10/27/2011 2:54:14 PM

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Yeah we have been since Reagan got elected

[Edited on October 27, 2011 at 2:56 PM. Reason : Well, "we"]

10/27/2011 2:56:09 PM

pack_bryan
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"The difference is, you lived off of it, we rejoiced in it."

10/27/2011 3:22:04 PM

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must see pic

10/27/2011 3:39:55 PM

ActionPants
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Because the federal budget is the functional equivalent of a household budget

10/27/2011 3:45:00 PM

pack_bryan
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lol

10/27/2011 3:48:51 PM

pryderi
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^^^So the answer is to increase income. A family of 4 making 21k is below the poverty level.

10/27/2011 3:49:11 PM

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these numbers are in no way supposed to represent an actual family, and are simply a reduced-in-scale version of the federal numbers.


It's shit like that why you're viewed as a moonbat.

10/27/2011 3:53:05 PM

pryderi
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Still an argument for increasing revenue.

10/27/2011 3:55:03 PM

xienze
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Well the point is to make the numbers easier to grasp.

10/27/2011 3:59:34 PM

pryderi
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Need to send those lazy assed billionaires off to work.

10/27/2011 4:01:57 PM

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"Need to send those lazy assed billionaires off to work."



We need to take some of the lazy assed money that billionaires don't use and put it to work.

10/27/2011 4:09:52 PM

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"^^^So the answer is to increase income. A family of 4 making 21k is below the poverty level."


That's not an answer, that's a desired outcome. You never tell us how we get that outcome. A law that says "everyone gets paid X" doesn't work. Otherwise, we'd cure cancer by making it illegal. We'd solve homelessness by making people buy homes. We'd solve lack of health insurance by forcing people to...oh.

10/27/2011 4:46:12 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYS5NtRXlZQ

10/27/2011 5:04:07 PM

ActionPants
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I think the point was that the government needs more income, not the imaginary family of four. Although, if I could, I'd personally tax all y'all.

10/27/2011 5:20:10 PM

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why did they spend 38k?

10/27/2011 5:47:49 PM

d357r0y3r
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"Because the federal budget is the functional equivalent of a household budget"


It's actually worse. With a household budget, the household has to take responsibility for their bad decisions. With the federal government, the politicians and bureaucrats never have to take any responsibility. 100% of the consequences are offloaded onto the taxpayer or foreign creditors.

Beg for free stuff from the government all you want, but know that absolutely none of it is free. It all comes at a cost, and usually, the cost is a lower standard of living for you.

10/27/2011 5:55:05 PM

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Aiite. If you can hook me up with a work visa to Sweden so I can take my chances with it, I'll be out of your hair and I'll never post on TWW again.

10/27/2011 7:14:40 PM

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It's actually worse. With a household budget, the household has to take responsibility for their bad decisions. With the federal government, the politicians and bureaucrats never have to take any responsibility. 100% of the consequences are offloaded onto the taxpayer or foreign creditors.

Beg for free stuff from the government all you want, but know that absolutely none of it is free. It all comes at a cost, and usually, the cost is a lower standard of living for you."


ahahahahahahaha

*ignores where the money and wealth go*

10/27/2011 7:38:12 PM

pack_bryan
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who makes 21k year and actually spends 38k?

jesus fuck


pryderi:

hey. this protest is great. it's finally opening up the core of the problem. it isn't sexism. it isn't racism. it isn't even class warfare. it isn't really any xyzism. it's about lazy beta humans vs. the more evolved who are able to fend for themselves.

i like how those themes are more prominent as this goes on. the wild and lazy and fat asses who are the guilty parties behind the huge carbon footprints in our cities who leech off of humanity for its survival who guzzle gas and pollute the earth more than contribute to it.

we are a unique species in that we allow this to occur. but survival of the fittest is a bitch. just look at every other organism on earth. the best part is. we aren't any different



[Edited on October 27, 2011 at 7:44 PM. Reason : ,]

10/27/2011 7:39:41 PM

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yo the federal government is not a household by the way

HELPFUL HINT: attempts to compare the budget of a house with a budget of the federal motherfucking government is not just a matter of scale

10/27/2011 7:42:24 PM

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"We need to take some of the lazy assed money that billionaires don't use and put it to work."


it is at work.

it's the only reason you can go to an ATM and ActionPants can withdraw a nickel for his grandma. where do you think your little 140k home loan came from? thin air?

10/27/2011 7:42:36 PM

ActionPants
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I've never seen an ATM where you can withdraw a nickel

10/27/2011 7:47:58 PM

McDanger
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it's the only reason you can go to an ATM and ActionPants can withdraw a nickel for his grandma. where do you think your little 140k home loan came from? thin air?"


laughing so hard i'm nearly in tears at the moment
your trolling is the highest art

(i choose to believe)

10/27/2011 7:50:05 PM

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There was a coastal FCU ATM where I used to work where you could withdrawl change and dollar bills. It was awesome going to withdrawal $.75 to get a snack from the vending machine.

10/27/2011 7:53:30 PM

ActionPants
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Alright I'm headed there to get a nickel for my grandma, brb

10/27/2011 7:57:07 PM

GrayFox33
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I would be interested in some life statistics about pack_bryan.

10/27/2011 8:19:00 PM

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WHAT A LAZY PIECE OF SHIT

10/27/2011 9:52:55 PM

UJustWait84
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I live less than a mile from downtown Oakland, and these helicopters are starting to drive me crazy

Apparently Michael Moore is going to be in town tomorrow and I'd totally love to meet him, but unfortunately I work three jobs, so it's pretty unlikely I'll get to go

10/27/2011 9:55:33 PM

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10/27/2011 11:57:46 PM

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10/28/2011 12:13:24 AM

pack_bryan
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10/28/2011 12:17:48 AM

GrayFox33
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I would be interested in some life statistics about pack_bryan.

10/28/2011 12:41:44 AM

pryderi
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"Warren Buffett isn’t the only rich guy who wants to higher taxes on the rich.

A new survey from Spectrem Group found that 68% of millionaires (those with investments of $1 million or more) support raising taxes on those with $1 million or more in income. Fully 61% of those with net worths of $5 million or more support the tax on million-plus earners."


http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/10/27/most-millionaires-support-warren-buffetts-tax-on-the-rich/?mod=e2tw

10/28/2011 12:43:27 AM

Hawthorne
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"yeah servicemen are a bunch of dirtbags. "


You should come to work with me for a couple of days, you might say that line with sincerity.

10/28/2011 3:30:47 AM

xienze
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"A new survey from Spectrem Group found that 68% of millionaires (those with investments of $1 million or more) support raising taxes on those with $1 million or more in income. Fully 61% of those with net worths of $5 million or more support the tax on million-plus earners."


There's an important distinction there. "Millionaires" with $1 million (or hell, even $5 million) in their 401k are not the same beast as someone who makes $1 million+ in income in a single year.

Change the question to "do you support increasing taxes on people with >$1 million net worth?" and see how they respond.

10/28/2011 4:02:29 AM

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10/28/2011 5:40:48 AM

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^[old] [stupid]

10/28/2011 6:44:27 AM

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pryderi, you're fucking tone deaf and you do more harm than good

from someone else that supports the movement, SHUT THE FUCK UP

10/28/2011 7:33:00 AM

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10/28/2011 10:28:34 AM

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"Warren Buffett isn’t the only rich guy who wants to higher taxes on the rich."

well, what's stopping HIM from putting his money where his mouth is, literally. There's a box you can check on your taxes where you pay more. FUCKING DO IT AND SET A GOD DAMNED EXAMPLE, then he can bitch and moan. Oh, and it would also help if he weren't being a hypocritical ass and structuring his pay so that it's not as taxable. Dude is really playing all of you sheep

10/28/2011 10:45:35 AM

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warren buffet is the biggest hypocrite of all time. he hides behind his investors and shares and pays less taxes than anybody. he WOULD be for more taxes because he doesn't pay any to begin with.

he just wants the current administration to be in power to pass more socialized bailouts to the companies that he is invested in

10/28/2011 10:52:59 AM

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and what do you people want other than a racist theocracy that holds everybody except you and yours down?

10/28/2011 11:02:18 AM

pack_bryan
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we want the government out of the student loan departments so you don't get the shaft paying 100k for a stupid worthless degree simply b/c the govt guarantees the loan.

you are the one that gets the shaft. the student. because the schools raise their price because the damn government guarantees a loan for them. they don't care about you. they are as greedy as anybody else.

10/28/2011 11:22:25 AM

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"pryderi, you're fucking tone deaf and you do more harm than good

from someone else that supports the movement, SHUT THE FUCK UP"


have to agree here. the extreme positions on both sides are just embarrassing

10/28/2011 11:29:38 AM

pack_bryan
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^^^the question becomes why is your movement dead set that everybody not on your side is a racist?

why do you think the problem is only successful investing workers that are simply part of the system that has produced more wealth,food,consumer goods than any organization in the history of human civilization?

is steve jobs (who was a 1%) evil? did he do you an injustice by giving you an iphone or a computer? or did he enrich your life with the most modern communicating device in the history of life? is he really just a racist capitalist crony you make him out to be?

no he's not. he created a brilliant organization that employs thousands to enrich the lives of everybody on earth. and if you start taxing him it's going to reflect in the prices of his goods, and the amount he is able to pay his employees

[Edited on October 28, 2011 at 11:31 AM. Reason : ^^^]

10/28/2011 11:30:41 AM

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"pryderi, you're fucking tone deaf and you do more harm than good

from someone else that supports the movement, SHUT THE FUCK UP"






10/28/2011 11:31:35 AM

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