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" I wouldn't count out Vandy as a starter over Painter. "

Never count out THE BIG DANDY VANDY.

[Edited on October 15, 2010 at 4:56 PM. Reason : tbdv]

10/15/2010 4:55:43 PM

i thought it was very telling last year when he was wide open and javy was like 3 feet away from him, looking right at him, and would NOT throw him the basketball under any circumstance

10/15/2010 5:02:49 PM

Purvis is reclassifying to 2012, so I hope we crank up our recruiting with him

10/16/2010 5:53:57 PM

i'd really really love to get purvis, that kid is going to be special.

10/16/2010 10:43:20 PM

Vandy could be good if he learned how to use his body to box out and seal better. All he needs to do is get boards and put backs. Se the occasional screen. We don't need him to handle the ball like tracy

10/16/2010 10:55:13 PM

Watching him last night he will likely foul out in 3 minutes. Some of the players were looking pissed at him for throwing some bows in a scrimmage.

10/16/2010 11:06:05 PM

He was recruited as a long term project. He looks improved and as long as that trend continues I see no reason for criticism.

10/16/2010 11:34:50 PM

^Don't get me wrong. I love the Vandy. I hope he turns into Zubek for us. Just saying what I saw last night.

10/16/2010 11:48:39 PM

V'berg shouldn't have to do much this year. He'll be useful as an upperclassman. Most of those tall africans who get drafted in the lottery look like theyve never played basketball for most of their college career too, but they get blocks and rebound pretty well. Vandenberg already does that. All we have to do is get him from full retard to normal retard on offense and he'll be fine

10/17/2010 12:22:56 AM

^ reminds me of Tropic Thunder

Everybody knows
you never go full retard.

What do you mean?

Check it out.
Dustin Hoffman, Rain Man, looked
retarded, act retarded, not retarded.
Count toothpicks, cheat at cards.
Autistic, sure. Not retarded.
Then you got Tom Hanks,
Forrest Gump.
Slow, yes, retarded, maybe,
braces on his legs.
But he charmed the pants off Nixon,
and he won a Ping-Pong competition.
That ain't retarded.
And he was a goddamn war hero.
You know any retarded war heroes?
You went full retard, man.
Never go full retard.
You don't buy that?
Ask Sean Penn, 2001, I Am Sam.
Remember? Went full retard?
Went home empty-handed.

10/17/2010 2:55:35 AM

Dominique Pointer (Winston-Salem) committed to St. John's. Now that they have 3 small forwards committed and 5 total recruits, I think it's safe to say now that Tyler Harris won't be playing college ball for his home state. Even if St. John's wasn't much of a factor before in his recruiting, it appears that it's not an option anymore.

10/19/2010 9:53:16 AM

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"The latest news on Quinn Cook has the coveted 2011 PG down to just three possible landing spots. "Just talked to Quinn Cook, down to Duke, UCLA and Villanova. Already visited Duke and UCLA. Says he'll visit 'Nova Oct. 22" reported ESPN recruiting analyst Reggie Rankin via Twitter. Cook was taking his time arranging a visit to Kansas, and now seems to have dropped the notion of becoming a Jayhawk. Duke has ties to Cook through senior guard Nolan Smith and the Blue Devils' top recent verbal commit, Austin Rivers. UCLA has also made a strong push for Cook of late that has put coach Ben Howland and the Bruins squarely in the mix to land him. Villanova is hot on the trail of several lead guards, and clearly has a chance of getting Cook to commit."

--ESPN Insider

10/19/2010 1:57:56 PM

^Telep talked all that free on scout.

10/19/2010 2:39:57 PM

god I hope we don't get stuck with Javi 2.0

10/19/2010 2:46:09 PM

^have you actually seen him play?

do you know anything about him other than the fact that he's javi's cousin and goes to the same high school?

[Edited on October 19, 2010 at 2:53 PM. Reason : ]

10/19/2010 2:50:27 PM

I seent some highlight clips on rivals (I think it was rivals, may have been scout). He might end up being pretty good, but he still seems like a fallback guy.

10/19/2010 2:56:13 PM

Well, supposedly he's better than Javi was in HS, and he's more of a true PG. Supposedly. FWIW.

10/19/2010 3:12:54 PM

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"^Telep talked all that free on scout."

I was giving the source, not trying to proclaim that espn insider is bad ass.

10/19/2010 3:45:27 PM

Great ESPN evaluation:

Rodriguez is a tough and strong point guard. He competes on both ends of the floor and plays with great urgency. He has good not great speed and quickness but can get to the basket because of his toughness and he is strong for his size where he can finish with either hand. He struggled to shoot the ball at times but is respectable enough that the defense must pay attention. He is a good ball handler but at times played a little to loose which resulted in a few turnovers

The compliment sandwich review.

10/19/2010 4:48:16 PM

sounds like he sucks

10/19/2010 5:18:43 PM

well, he's probably no ryan harrow.

10/19/2010 5:32:57 PM

so let me get this straight...

the kid is not fast/quick
he cant shoot
and he is turnover prone.

SIGN ME UP!!!! Sounds like everything you look for in a guard.

10/19/2010 6:55:34 PM

...wait, we're re-recruiting Javi Gonzalez?


Zing!

10/19/2010 7:52:22 PM

You're going to base your analysis on 5 sentences from ESPN?

We've missed out on several potential 2011 PGs, but I'll trust Sid. And trust that Harrow will handle most of the PG duties in '11.

10/19/2010 8:02:44 PM

We should just go take all the ncsu greats - get them to reproduce with some ncsu women....and have a hell of a team in 18 years.

10/19/2010 8:03:00 PM

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"You're going to base your analysis on 5 sentences from ESPN? "

I'm basing my analysis on significantly more than that (highlights, other offers, scout and rivals' rankings, etc). At some point if we want to be a legitimate program again we're going to have to stop settling for borderline 2/3 star guys, that isn't the kind of player that's going to take us where we want to go.

10/19/2010 8:27:27 PM

I realize that. But we're not exactly "legitimate" (yet), and it's unlikely we'd get 2 elite pg's in back-to-back years. I'd be ok with a serviceable guard to back Harrow and Brown for now.

10/19/2010 8:40:16 PM

Quote :

"sounds like he sucks is javi"

10/19/2010 8:42:25 PM

If we pick up Purvis or another really good guard in the class of 2012 it's kind of a moot point, but that remains to be seen.

10/19/2010 8:43:12 PM

agreed.

we just gotta start winning with the talent we have now.

(and javi's actually a pretty decent shooter)

V eh, javi plays too aggressive sometimes. what game did he lose for us last year when he lost his temper and grabbed the dude?

[Edited on October 19, 2010 at 9:04 PM. Reason : ]

10/19/2010 8:59:20 PM

Javi would be great is he just played more aggressive.

10/19/2010 9:01:06 PM

Quote :

"You're going to base your analysis on 5 sentences from ESPN? "

I'm not analyzing anything. I thought it was a funny review which is sort of a standard in the recruiting environment. You take all the negatives in the kid's game and try to spin it into a semi-positive statement. No doubt we need a PG next year, so if Sid can groom him like he did Javi, he'll be a decent guard by at least his junior year (yes Javi haters, he was solid last season).

In Javi's defense, he was thrust into the game immediately and played in all 31 games his freshman year.
He was pretty terrible but his stats have improved over the years in ppg and assists (though he shot better as a sophomore but only played in 22 games). If Angel can play behind Harrow, he'll probably make a smoother transition but this is all conjecture. If you suck, then there's little you can do about it.

10/19/2010 9:33:47 PM

^i hear ya

Quote :

""You're going to base your analysis on 5 sentences from ESPN? ""

was in response to:

Quote :

"sounds like he sucks & so let me get this straight... the kid is not fast/quick he cant shoot and he is turnover prone. SIGN ME UP!!!! Sounds like everything you look for in a guard."

10/19/2010 9:41:06 PM

Quote :

"Thanks for Coach Lowe for the schoolarship he just gave me. #wolfpackkkkk"

Rodney Purvis


http://twitter.com/#!/rpurvis_44/status/27892926608

10/19/2010 11:03:13 PM

^nice!

10/19/2010 11:09:18 PM

So if we were to hypothetically get Tyler Lewis and Rodney Purvis in 2012 (Purvis supposedly may reclassify for 2012), we'd play Lewis at PG and Purvis at SG right? By then Harrow and Brown would be juniors and potentially on their way to the NBA, with Harrow probably staying all 4 years and Brown potentially going after 3. I'd like that b/c although Lewis and Purvis are talented they wouldn't be expected to come in and start right away.

10/19/2010 11:20:23 PM

Is Rodney Purvis a pipe dream or is it really a possibility? Seems like Sid gets the jump on kids early to get them interested in the program but I don't know if this follows the Wall/Leslie/Harrow trend.

10/19/2010 11:35:03 PM

Just from my personal obvservations, it seems like Purvis is genuinely up in the air. He also got to play with our guys this summer at the NC Pro Am, which may have helped sway him at least a little more in our direction. I think once this basketball season starts, it will do a lot towards showing big name recruits like Purvis where we plan on going with the program.

10/20/2010 12:05:19 AM

Week old article from the Fayetteville Observer but I didn't see it posted.

http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2010/10/14/1039252?sac=Home

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"N.C. STATE Number of players on scholarship this season: 10 Players set to graduate in 2011: Tracy Smith, Javi Gonzalez Potential early departures: C.J. Leslie Committed Class of 2011 recruits: Joseph Uchebo (center) Other Class of 2011 prospects on the radar: DeAndre Daniels (forward), Tyler Harris (wing), Kevin Thomas (wing), Alonzo Nelson-Ododa (power forward) What to watch: With Smith entering his final season and Leslie hoping to become a one-and-done player, the Wolfpack coaching staff may need to get serious about finding additional frontcourt talent to build around. Guards Scott Wood, Ryan Harrow and Lorenzo Brown will give State a promising perimeter for the foreseeable future. But they'll need some additional big bodies inside to truly flourish. The Wolfpack has three sophomore big men in Richard Howell, DeShawn Painter and Jordan Vandenberg. All have potential but cannot yet be considered can't-miss playmakers for the next three seasons. Of the Class of 2011 prospects on State's radar, DeAndre Daniels may be the most intriguing. After offering a verbal commitment to Texas in the summer of 2009, Daniels backed off that pledge and reopened his recruitment two months ago. Since then, the Pack coaching staff has begun a relationship with Daniels, who can play both small forward and power forward. Daniels, rated No. 34 in the 2011 class by Scout, was originally a 2010 prospect but later reclassified and is attending the IMG Academy in Florida this year. He is touted as having great scoring instincts and an ability to be a weapon in transition. The staff at State has made such an impression recently that Daniels is reportedly set to attend Friday night's "Red Rally" at Reynolds Coliseum, significant news for a program eager to add to its 2011 class. Tyler Harris, meanwhile, is the brother of Tennessee freshman Tobias Harris. Said to have a sound understanding of the game and the versatility to score in different ways, Tyler isn't thought to have as much talent or upside as his older brother. But he'd be a terrific piece for Wolfpack coach Sidney Lowe to add to the puzzle. Iowa, St. John's and Providence are the other schools left recruiting Harris."

[Edited on October 20, 2010 at 3:04 AM. Reason : ...]

10/20/2010 3:04:02 AM

from what i know and what i can guess I'd say we have a good shot at Purvis. I don't see him leaving the state of NC, and we'll probably have to beat UNC and Duke to get him though.

10/20/2010 12:43:56 PM

Wasn't sure where to put this, but did anyone see the quick segment Sportscenter did on NC State Hoops? Had Sid giving an interview (I'm assuming that came from the ACC's media day). I couldn't hear what they were saying because I was at a restaraunt and they had the sound off, but I'm gonna try to catch it later.

It's good to see the bball getting some exposure/publicity (albeit undeserved at this point). Now we just have to win some games

10/20/2010 12:53:40 PM

Sid said we had good players that could make a great team. The anchors were just talking about how we reached the "magical" 20 wins but still had a losing ACC record and fell out of the NIT. They put up a graphic showing Tracy, Javi, and Scott as the only returning starters.

Even though Sid wasn't on live, it was still really nice to see State getting some attention on SC. They didn't seem as excited as when they talked to Roy and K, but hey, what do you expect?

10/20/2010 1:07:00 PM

^,^^ From the other thread

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/35073/acc-hoops-coaches

Tracy is going to be talking @ 2:45.

10/20/2010 1:11:06 PM

woot! tracy answered my question

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"Chris (NC State) Hey Tracy, I know you were great at the 5 last year. Do you feel like you're ready to play the power forward position this season? Tracy Smith (2:44 PM) Of course. I think coach Lowe's thing was to move me to the 4 this year. I've been working on my game this summer to get ready for that."

10/20/2010 3:02:18 PM

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"Brandon (South Carolina) Tracy, how does it feel that Duke is th ebest team in the country and is going to beat NC State Tracy Smith (2:49 PM) Well, they did win the national championship, so they're a pretty good team. But you must have forgot that we beat them last year. We'll be coming back for them this year. Be ready! "

lol really? what a twat

10/20/2010 3:08:35 PM

I don't see the Purvis kid listed on pack pride. Where can I get some info on this dude?

10/21/2010 12:15:26 PM

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Rodney+Purvis

10/21/2010 12:17:24 PM

^^In a nutshell he's the next John Wall

10/21/2010 1:07:54 PM

wow. Baylor picks up miller and bello. What's their edge again? I know they hired John Wall's old coach to get him interested, but what about these guys? They also got another 5* guy coming in this year.

10/21/2010 7:35:02 PM

Their edge?

Oh, you must mean this...

10/21/2010 7:39:04 PM