NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I'm obsessed with this now. I've spent like 60 minutes just reading other scout.com boards to see what other schools are saying. 95% are quite pleased. I haven't even touched PackPride yet.
Really, New York Times? Nice time on the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/15/sports/ncaafootball/north-carolina-football-tries-to-move-past-academic-scandal.html?pagewanted=all
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 8:11 PM. Reason : c] 8/14/2012 8:08:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Did NCAA visit? No? OK RT @ColinWFNZ: Can't help wonder why the N&O never questioned if there's similar stuff going on at other area schools" |
maybe they should question if there is similar stuff going on at Appalachian State
where Colin, the UNC fan, went to college8/14/2012 8:12:35 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
nah, dog. They should first look at every other school, just to be sure, while they ignore the one with the obvious problems. It's only fair! 8/14/2012 8:35:54 PM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
They better not touch any of our Champions in the Classroom banners!
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 8:42 PM. Reason : tob] 8/14/2012 8:40:33 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They're not talking about weed, it's all in reference to some prescription drugs found at one of our weed busts. Or something like that. " |
I thought I read that it was Bryan's asthma medicine. A lot of asthma controlling medication contains anti-inflammatory "corticosteroids".8/14/2012 8:45:43 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.drugs.com/nasonex.html
performance enhancing allergy medicine
SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING 8/14/2012 8:56:29 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That is one of the many byproducts of an N.C.A.A. investigation that began in 2010 after allegations of improper gifts from agents to athletes and quickly escalated into a humiliating academic scandal for a university that was once called a new Ivy by Newsweek. A report over the weekend suggested the academic malfeasance could stretch back more than a decade." |
8/14/2012 9:02:30 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "THE
ACADEMIC
MALFEASANCE" |
8/14/2012 9:03:58 PM |
Moox All American 612 Posts user info edit post |
If I remember correctly the report indicated Marinol which is a cancer drug that is basically pure THC. It is used to improve appetite in chemo patients by giving them the "munchies" but it also has recreational and possible bulking potential leading to it being considered a banned substance by the NCAA. Given that it was found with pot and pot paraphernalia, recreational is the probable culprit. 8/14/2012 9:14:31 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^if that is the case, i doubt there are many football players that need thc to stimulate their appetite to "bulk-up". and there's no way that thc could be considered a "ped". and it's probably banned by the ncaa because it's pot. and they were definitely using it recreationally (if it was, in fact, found). (all that is just my opinion)
but i thought it was asthma medicine. i'm sure some ic'ers will investigate and get to the bottom of this steroid scandal.
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 9:51 PM. Reason : say what you want about tob, but i just don't see him encouraging ped-use.] 8/14/2012 9:45:15 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27841 Posts user info edit post |
Stop derailing this thread you closet unc fans. 8/14/2012 9:50:04 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ interesting 8/14/2012 9:57:17 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
i hope that^^ wasn't in response to me.
i just find it hilarious that it's so obvious that some crazy shit is going on over there, yet some of their fans think it's no worse than some of our players being busted with pot (and maybe some thc cancer drug, or asthma medicine). (and dj greene, but he was suspended for the season back in Feb) 8/14/2012 9:59:56 PM |
bcvaugha All American 2587 Posts user info edit post |
you'd think espn would be doing more on this? 8/14/2012 10:06:20 PM |
Wolf2Ranger All American 2615 Posts user info edit post |
Several people posting the article from CBS sports on Facebook, and they are not even ncsu/duke fans. This latest break is gathering momentum, and that is a good thing.
I also linked the article, and tagged every single unc friend I have. Childish, yes. But damn it felt good! 8/14/2012 10:08:50 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
ESPN is too busy celebrating a backup quarterbacks birthday to report on sports news. 8/14/2012 10:26:10 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
ha just read doyel's article. oh man. 8/14/2012 10:29:49 PM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
yup.
didn't see it linked ITT so here it is: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/19794788/north-carolina-cheated-and-prospered-and-now-its-time-for-the-reckoning] 8/14/2012 10:32:15 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, it's odd. ESPN had an article on their front page this morning, but it got replaced within the hour. Not sure if the article itself is still online 8/14/2012 10:44:26 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
wonder if that has anything to do with: http://espn.go.com/blog/north-carolina-basketball
haha
(though after looking at the site, they have posts related to the story on there)
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 10:46 PM. Reason : .] 8/14/2012 10:45:42 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
ESPN's coverage consists of copying and pasting an AP article and mentioning Pepper's agent in a bullet point above a plug for Woody Durham's book.
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM. Reason : Maybe they can get Tebow to speak on it] 8/14/2012 10:47:17 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Probably because they didn't want the UNC article's headline to immediately refute this one:
Quote : | " A Step In The Right Direction Football's tumultuous offseason -- at every level -- wasn't all bad.
TMQ applauds a quiet shift that could save the sport." |
Well yeah, they have articles still up, but it went from front page to the back logs quickly. I haven't checked tonight extensively, but just sayin'
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM. Reason : dgh]8/14/2012 10:48:11 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Carey said Peppers has expressed an interest in completing his degree from North Carolina, at some point, and that he has about a year and a half of study remaining." |
HAHAHAHA8/14/2012 10:51:33 PM |
moonman All American 8685 Posts user info edit post |
Posted Doyel's link on Facebook today, but I forgot I used to work with Julius Peppers' cousin, who is on my list. He wasn't nearly as happy with the coverage as I was. 8/14/2012 10:55:49 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Come on man, anything good and UNC related? 8/14/2012 11:01:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
decent read, for those still thirsting for stuff to read about on the scandal
http://www.riddickandreynolds.com/2012/08/the-packpride-message-boards-where-hatred-opportunity-meet/
Quote : | "Investigative journalism departments used to be the hallmark of local newspapers and television news departments, but in recent years they’ve been trimmed to skeleton crews unable to devote the man hours necessary to do the job of investigation adequately.
But message boards, on the other hand, have man hours in spades. A highly motivated army of unemployed, semi-employed or loosely monitored employees working at mundane jobs can devote vast amounts of time online searching, scouring and theorizing–far more than can be expended by a single journalist. What a message board lacks in access can be offset by sheer community involvement and willpower." | ]8/14/2012 11:20:05 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
This headline gives me a boner Online transript could bring feds down on UNC
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/11428957/ 8/14/2012 11:22:27 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“I think it is well-nigh impossible to have naturally competitive football and basketball teams and expect those students to behave like everyone else in the classroom,” Smith said. “It’s not realistic. It’s not right to expect these students to put in 40-50 hours of work into their sports each week and expect them to carry the same workload as other students. It’s just absurd. How can you take the marginal student that has been recruited to the university for his athletic talents and put him down in a classroom and expect them to perform at the same level as the other students?”" |
That's bullshit. If I can work 40-50 hours a week at my various jobs and get an engineering degree, these athletes should at least be able to get some art appreciation degree while they play their sport. Using the time sports takes as an excuse for poor performance in the classroom is disingenuous. The problem is that these athletes are not mentally prepared or even possibly equipped to handle college academics. The fact of the matter is that you can either be a "public ivy" institution who only accepts and allows athletes into the program who can meet the rigorous academic standards you pretend to uphold, or you can be a program who bends the system to allow athletes who can't or can only partially qualify for your institution in at the expense of your reputation. UNC has errantly attempted to have their cake and eat it, too. Now they are trying to claim that the problem is the expectations on the students? No. In the triangle there are two other universities who accept college athletes who are capable of earning a degree at the university level. The ones who come in and can't cut it don't get propped up by a system established specifically to keep them eligible at all costs.
I only hope that the NCAA shows UNC exactly what those costs are.8/15/2012 12:03:01 AM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder if the dudes doing the research/leg work on PP need funding.
I'd donate 8/15/2012 12:11:29 AM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
they could probably use more data to scour. 8/15/2012 12:16:49 AM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
if i could get the $ to the right hands i'd prob donate up to $1k non-lafta bucks to the cause 8/15/2012 12:17:51 AM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
banner idea for the state-carolina game this year:
"we go to class
so do our professors" 8/15/2012 1:44:44 AM |
SteveO All American 728 Posts user info edit post |
this keeps getting better
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/08/14/did-the-agent-for-julius-peppers-create-a-website-to-smear-a-reporter-covering-the-unc-academic-scandal/ 8/15/2012 5:11:14 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Dan Kane, a reporter at the Raleigh News & Observer, has been doing a terrific job covering the UNC academic scandal" |
True dat8/15/2012 6:18:37 AM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " and when there is factual information to disclose it will be disclosed" |
8/15/2012 6:58:20 AM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Michael Jordan's major was "cultural geography"
sounds pretty fishy if you ask me 8/15/2012 7:51:55 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
8/15/2012 8:11:44 AM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "loosely monitored employees working at mundane jobs" |
heh8/15/2012 8:34:41 AM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
Was N'boro salary paid or susposed to be paid by the taxpayer? 8/15/2012 8:59:46 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
was it made or from somewhere else? 8/15/2012 9:00:27 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Michael Jordan's major was "cultural geography"
sounds pretty fishy if you ask me" |
bmel's mother was in a class with Michael Jordan and supposedly everyone was failing the class. Near the end of the semester, the coach came in, talked to the professor, and everyone passed the class no problem.8/15/2012 9:12:27 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I BET 8/15/2012 9:12:50 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I heard it with my own ears 8/15/2012 9:14:24 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "didn't see it linked ITT so here it is:" |
then you didn't look in the thread... message_topic.aspx?topic=598655&page=232#15496265
Quote : | "this keeps getting better" |
no, it keeps getting older message_topic.aspx?topic=598655&page=231#15496033
also, N&O seems to think that dirtydankane.com is actually created by Carl Carey http://blogs.newsobserver.com/iteam/dirty-dan-kane-and-the-unc-academic-fraud]8/15/2012 9:43:17 AM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
I know we're all excited and that this is a great thing for us as state fans but do we really see anything happening to UNC as a result of this?
Will banners come down...likely not. Will seasons get canceled, probably not.
I know UNC grads who, some how and some way, don't even know such an investigation is going on. Is the world watching or just us over excited state fans? 8/15/2012 9:45:34 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^it's okay if someone reposts a story on a new page aaron, the thread is moving pretty fast, and we're all kinda excited. 8/15/2012 9:46:24 AM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
8/15/2012 9:57:56 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
lol at that Joey Powell dude's twitter. So mad. 8/15/2012 9:59:10 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
http://bustingbrackets.com/2012/08/14/unc-academic-scandal-may-be-turning-off-basketball-recruits/
doubtful, but perception can become reality. 8/15/2012 10:20:57 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I refuse to give him a follow. Any good excerpts? 8/15/2012 10:29:28 AM |