1/17/2011 5:09:51 PM

IIRC, Wright's wife is a Villanova grad and he has no interest in ever leaving there...

1/17/2011 5:10:16 PM

a lot of Roy's time at UNC he's been successful by having a really athletic guy that can play good defense at the 3. See: Jackie Manuel.

David Noel had a pretty good senior year too though. I think he played the 3 for Roy. I think Marvin Williams got some good time at the 3 off the bench as a freshman before jetting to the NBA.

Roy's had the most success at UNC when he has stars at the 1,2, and 5.


Re: Jay Wright, he'll eventually probably leave Villanova (although likely not anytime soon), but not for NC State. At best you can consider it a horizontal move, and we're not gonna be able to pony up the cash for him to take that move.

1/17/2011 5:12:04 PM

yah Wikipedia just told me he's married to a former Villanova cheerleader. Bummer.

contract through 2012-13 season

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 5:16 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2011 5:14:58 PM

I figure in like 5 years or so if he keeps Villanova playing well someone from the NBA will try to grab him, and if the money/offer is right he'll move.

1/17/2011 5:18:30 PM

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"FSU has a significant talent advantage"

Ha Ha.

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"So given the relevant information I have provided: NCSU lost to a more experienced, more talented team (per scout.com) on their home floor."

Per scout.com we should have killed BC.

Fucking stop already.

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"you are blinded to that because all of the information you have read sucking off NCSU recruits as the next best thing since sliced bread."

So Sidney isn't getting great talent? That means we could have fired him last year. WTF?

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 5:46 PM. Reason : do we or don't we have talent? lulz]

1/17/2011 5:40:31 PM

Mike Anderson. Any chance we could land him?

40 minutes of hell is exactly what we need. What a contrast to our current 40 minutes of dicking around.

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 6:14 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2011 6:13:15 PM

I think our talent is good, some obviously young, but the chemistry just isn't there consistently yet...we started 3 talented freshmen against FSU as well as our best player Smith...as the freshmen grew this year, they did it for the most part without Smith...with him back against a couple weak teams in Elon and Wake we looked good...but against tougher ACC competition its clear they still need to grow as a cohesive unit

I think the freshmen became better players against the cupcakes while Smith was out, but I think not having Smith against the good teams in the losses slowed their development...and not just because they were losses, but because they didn't have Smith's senior leadership on the court to help them

Also, Phil Jackson reportedly bought a house in Raleigh this past weekend

1/17/2011 6:20:39 PM

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"with him back against a couple weak teams in Elon and Wake we looked good...but against tougher ACC competition its clear they still need to grow as a cohesive unit"

No offense but when we said this after the Wake game, we were trolling because we just won.

^Tracy isn't a leader on the court. He's just not that type. Can't blame him for that.

1/17/2011 6:25:45 PM

Why do you say that? Because he isn't loud and vocal, he isn't a leader on the court?

1/17/2011 6:28:36 PM

Why do you say he is a leader on the court if you can't see it on the court? Where do you get your inside info from? Pack pride premium?

1/17/2011 6:30:26 PM

I see him calling younger players over into huddles when they lose focus, I see him pointing out where players are supposed to go on plays, or where they should go on the fly if it helps spacing...and I know you can be a leader without always getting hyped up all the time like Jules used to

1/17/2011 6:36:01 PM

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"No offense but when we said this after the Wake game, we were trolling because we just won."

i call bullshit. are you suggesting that people were saying that wake didn't suck and we didn't need to grow as a cohesive unit? what are you saying?

1/17/2011 6:38:47 PM

Hmm, I'll try to pay more attention to see if I notice. He must be a poor leader though since Sidney is barking orders and whistling at all the players for an entire 40 minutes.

1/17/2011 6:39:55 PM

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"I wonder if we have any realistic chance of getting Jay Wright away from Villanova? I don't know his contract situation but I'd love to have him."

lol.

1/17/2011 6:40:05 PM

I agree boner. The coach should not speak unless spoken to.

1/17/2011 6:41:08 PM

What I said:

Quote :

". He must be a poor leader though since Sidney is barking orders and whistling at all the players for an entire 40 minutes."

What you think I said:

Quote :

"The coach should not speak unless spoken to."

edit: let me get some rolly eyes up in here

Hey, I got another idea of how we can prove Tracy is a poor leader (or NOT LEADING AT ALL!!!). Take a look at the results of his leadership abilities!!!

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 6:45 PM. Reason : Tracy speaks softly, but carries a tiny stick]

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 6:46 PM. Reason : rolly eyes ]

1/17/2011 6:44:26 PM

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"I wouldn't say we're down. Now, when you talk about ranked teams, we may not be in there, but I'll still take the teams in the ACC, with time and experience, against anyone else in the country. "

Dang is adder Sidney himself?

Quote :

"what are you saying?"

That when we said we weren't playing good after Wake, people called us out saying we just won by a lot.

1/17/2011 6:45:38 PM

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"Mike Anderson. Any chance we could land him? "

I'm going to go ahead and clear this up.

Coaches NC State cannot get:

Jay Wright
Mike Kryzooski
Roy Williams
Tom Izzo
Tom Crean
Mike Anderson
Mark Few
Sean Miller
John Calipari
Billy Donovan
Gary Williams
Jim Boeheim
Scott Drew (Nor do we want him)
Brad Stevens
Jim Calhoun
Bill Self
Ben Howland
Jamie Dixon
Mark Turgeon
Frank Martin
Josh Pastner
Thad Matta
Travis Ford
Matt Painter
Bob Huggins
Any NBA coach that still has a job
Herb Sendek

Feel free to add. This is not meant to be an exhaustive list, but the usual suspects that are so ridiculous it's not even worth a discussion

There are also coaches that are pushing 60+ that we do not want, such as Bobby Knight, Tubby Smith, Dean Smith, Rick Barnes, and many many others

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 6:51 PM. Reason : ]

1/17/2011 6:46:46 PM

So, our next coach should be soft-spoken and unable to whistle w/ his fingers?

1/17/2011 6:47:35 PM

And preferrably a double amputee so he can't clap either.

1/17/2011 6:48:33 PM

and is primarily a defensive coach

sounds an awful lot like sendek...

1/17/2011 6:49:31 PM

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"So, our next coach should be soft-spoken and unable to whistle w/ his fingers?"

No you troll, but he shouldn't have to be whistling, hopping up and down, and flailing about all over the side of the court for the entire game.

Other coaches don't have to do that shit for 40 minutes because they've coached their players what to do in game situations in practice.

Hell, look at coach K. He's sitting down cool a fucking cucumber most of the game when he coaches.


[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 6:51 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2011 6:50:31 PM

I get it our next coach should be completely impassive and not try to correct things when players are obviously fucking up. Kind of like Roy refusing to call timeouts?? Maybe he shouldn't even come to games to prove how well he coaches during practice.

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"Hell, look at coach K. He's sitting down cool a fucking cucumber most of the game when he coaches."

?????????? Yeah constantly cussing at the refs is cool as a cucumber...

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 6:52 PM. Reason : asdfsd]

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 6:53 PM. Reason : asdf]

1/17/2011 6:52:14 PM

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"I get it our next coach should be completely impassive and not try to correct things when players are obviously fucking up."

It'd be one thing if he was actually able to correct their fuck ups, but for 5 years his flailing, waving, and whistling have clearly not corrected shit. For the entire game.

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 6:55 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2011 6:55:09 PM

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"Hell, look at coach K. He's sitting down cool a fucking cucumber most of the game when he coaches.""

That's becuase he can teach his players enough in practice, particularly his point guard, to be a coach for him.

1/17/2011 6:56:10 PM

Now THIS is a retarded argument.

1/17/2011 7:02:55 PM

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"That's becuase he can teach his players enough in practice, particularly his point guard, to be a coach for him."

Exactly.

It's 100% clear that Lowe has NEVER been able to teach our players about general basketball knowledge. He might know what needs to happen in his own mind, but he's clearly not able to convey it to the players. It's like he coaches from the sidelines like he's playing NBA 2k11 on the PS3.

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 7:08 PM. Reason : ^ no it's not, this is the reason we suck balls at basketball for 5 years]

1/17/2011 7:06:37 PM

i keep thinking this thread can't get any more ridiculous, but it continues to provide

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"No you troll"

Me? I was just using wild hyperboles, making argument up. You already stated that's what you thought we were doing itt.

1/17/2011 7:13:56 PM

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"i keep thinking this thread can't get any more ridiculous, but it continues to provide"

Kinda like how some of you keep thinking Sidney Lowe teams will magically play better?

1/17/2011 7:17:16 PM

check and mate, bro

1/17/2011 7:21:29 PM

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"Kinda like how some of you keep thinking Sidney Lowe teams will magically play better? "

+100000000000

1/17/2011 7:43:29 PM

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"Mike Anderson. Any chance we could land him? "

hey look, it's my choice of coaches from 5 years ago.

1/17/2011 8:07:20 PM

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"Oh yeah guys Harrow played really fucking great last game. Nevermind that he scored 15 of his 17 points with 10 minutes left when we were down 56-38. Or 9 in the last three minutes when we were down 79-59. He played like shit for the first 30 minutes but I guess it's okay because he got padders after the game was over."

Jesus. I keep telling myself not to respond...but you're actually being serious.

You know that Harrow only played 20 minutes, right? You know that he played LESS than any other guard (even if by only one minute), and scored more than the rest of them combined, right? So when you say that he scored 15 of 17 with 10 minutes left, it's because he didn't play all that much (particularly in the first half), other than a trivial start because Javi missed practice, right? ...right?

1/17/2011 8:14:17 PM

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"hey look, it's my choice of coaches from 5 years ago."

fuck man why didn't you say anything back then?!

1/17/2011 8:14:48 PM

Point stands Harrow was awful in the first half. He was taking wild shots and he never got us into our offense (i.e. get the ball to Tracy).

Dont get me wrong he'll be great, but lets put this "talent" argument in perspective.

We're getting nothing from Brown right now, very little from Harrow, and rebounding from CJ Leslie. So put this stupid ass stars argument to rest. Howell probably our 2nd best player isnt even playing for some stupid reason. Tracy our best player clearly isn't as good as he was last year (most likely due to the injury). Javi can't do a goddam thing. CJ is a role player, period who gives a fuck how many stars he had before he got hurt and missed AAU. Why is any of this relevant.

Look at our team we are middle of the pack based on talent and Sidney has us on track to finish around the middle of the pack. If we grow up quickly we can make noise this year, if we don't we will have to deal with disappointment.

Regardless, we will be studs in two years. Next year has some potential if CJL returns. If he doesn't we'll get more of the same. We're not going to win the ACC without good guard play when will you guys fucking get that?

1/17/2011 8:27:56 PM

^^

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"Mike Anderson. We have to be a step up from UAB. I am sure he will go somewhere soon."

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1/17/2011 8:39:21 PM

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"fuck man why didn't you say anything back then?! "

because 5 years ago I wasn't in a position to pick the new coach?

1/17/2011 8:41:04 PM

you say that like you are in a position now

debbie yow EXPOSED?

1/17/2011 8:43:33 PM

Neither was Lee Fowler, obviously










Zing!

1/17/2011 8:44:24 PM

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"you say that like you are in a position now debbie yow EXPOSED? "

YOU CAUGHT ME!

1/17/2011 8:45:51 PM

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"I don't think Atsur can handle pressure... let's hope Ferguson lives up to his billing "

Quote by me from that thread

And another.

I brought up Mike Anderson, too! Karl Hobbs hasn't amounted to much....

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"My guess is we'd attempt to contact Calipari, Karl Hobbs, Mike Anderson, Mark Few, and a few others that Athletic Directors know more about becuase it's their job"

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 8:55 PM. Reason : ]

1/17/2011 8:46:23 PM

they're all lottery tickets. you think K's record at army had any secret formula in it that a great AD could figure out to determine he'd be one of the best college coaches ever? hell no

you just gotta hope you get lucky. that doesnt mean you go make some stupid hire like bzdelik but it also means that even if you hire what looks like the best candidate one year you might still get a dud.

1/17/2011 9:02:19 PM

1/17/2011 9:05:51 PM

1/17/2011 9:17:47 PM

^^^To the layman it looks like luck. What really happened was the athletic director could spot talent and had connections to people who also knew basketball. The corroboration of experts led Duke to coach K.

It's all about who and what the AD knows. We wouldn't use resumes or interviews if it were all luck. Every job would be decided by coin flip.

You better hope that Yow is as good as Willis Casey at spotting talent.

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 9:26 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2011 9:24:39 PM

this thread goes in more circles than your typical nascar race

1/17/2011 9:39:20 PM

ibt edit and "forgot to switch names"

1/17/2011 9:49:26 PM

screw it.

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 10:00 PM. Reason : k]

1/17/2011 9:56:54 PM

Debbie needs to call up the NCAA, get Kelvin Sampson reinstated, and let him take the job. Pearl got a slap on the wrist for the same problem Sampson has with the phone, Sampson's paid his due. I have no doubt he would take the job.

1/17/2011 10:15:34 PM