We need Favors or Kelly (I'd prefer Favors at this point b/c of the publicity the program would receive which would be good for recruiting in the future) so that we can have a class that we can call either the Fantastic Four or even the Four Pack (play on our name, plus it'll be rare that we'll ever have a 6 man class that we can call the Six Pack )

7/29/2008 6:12:11 PM

the thing roy williams didn't know about that 6pack... they're all long necks.

7/29/2008 6:22:43 PM

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=2&c=773590

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/773593.html

two nice vids on Degand and his rehab...apologies if this is a repost

7/30/2008 11:56:18 AM

Yeah it was posted in the College Basketball 2008-2009 thread.

Hopefully Degand will keep his speed but be stronger this year having added weight.

7/30/2008 12:56:26 PM

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" Brown isn't sure whom else NC State is recruiting, but he knows about big men targets Derrick Favors and Ryan Kelly. "I'm trying to get Derrick to be coming here too," Brown said. "Me and Derrick are cool, and I've known him since the fifth or sixth grade, just like Richard. I haven't ever played on the same team with him, but I always tell him I'll get him the ball [at NC State]. We just have to go get Derrick.""

http://ncstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=831981

7/30/2008 4:53:10 PM

^ Word. Recruits recruiting other recruits. Needs more plz.

7/30/2008 4:58:10 PM

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"word is he got took. word is the ACC tourney dont care if you tired word isssssss we need all the help we can get word is we need Favors"

Word is we need either. You fly to South America, compete in the U-18 games, then fly to Vegas and play in another Tourney there and see if you'll be playing close to even 85%.

I'd definitely take either, but Kelly seems to be a guy that would stick around longer than Favors.

7/30/2008 5:07:43 PM

yeah i'll take either. they would both be better for the long term in their own ways...kelly because he would stick around. favors because he would put us on the map and make a bigger impact in the news/recruiting outlets/etc.

7/30/2008 5:49:34 PM

Wait, Kelly is white? Favors all the way

7/30/2008 6:04:04 PM

Kelly strikes me as Herb Sendek's wet dream, a lanky white boy that can shoot the 3 and has trouble defending/banging in the post and needs to fill out his frame...not sure how sold on him we should be

7/30/2008 6:55:55 PM

if/when he fills his body out in a few years and adds some muscle, he's going to be sick

that is the only thing he is lacking at this point...he has a really high bball IQ

7/31/2008 12:07:25 AM

i find myself trolling the pp premium board w/o really trying.

say one thing that isn't totally flattering of nc state and people flip shit

7/31/2008 9:37:36 AM

lol it's funny over there too when someone gets them going. it's not like tww where people are just like "fuck you ya dumb fucking shit. here's why you're a stupid fuck:......."

over there dudes are like "well sir i respect your opinion and your intelligence but i find myself in strong opposition to your thoughts and concerns"

and usually if two people really start going at it, one of them usually ends up apologizing in the thread.

7/31/2008 10:25:05 AM

ROFL its so hilarious when adults discuss things in a civilized manner LMAO!!!111oneoneone

7/31/2008 10:35:03 AM

^^^lol

Quote :

"but oh no, me being a realist means i hate nc state, so nevermind."

7/31/2008 10:35:32 AM

^ it's fucking true.

those guys are so so naive, it's unreal. you say something that's not even bad, but just fact (in this case that unc is rated higher as a university) and they don't want to hear any of it. like if they don't talk about it it's not true.

tdub sports talk is head and shoulders ahead of pp premium boards, both in knowledge and level of conversation.

7/31/2008 10:47:16 AM

so what's the deal with the WWR teams? was there more to it that you didn't post over there?

7/31/2008 10:54:58 AM

oh i have no idea, all i've read is from the ga hs AAAAA boards (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=37&f=2693). given that article that howler posted over there about elite camps, i'd venture a guess that that is going on w/ some wwr coaches.

7/31/2008 10:58:50 AM

your comment in that thread was nothing more than an asshole attempt to troll. There was no reason for you to be that huge of a gapping faggot asshole.

7/31/2008 11:07:52 AM

which?

someone made a comment that we'd lose ryan kelly to a better academic school, b/c we stick out on his list of schools as the lowest academically and some dude's like 'oh no you're wrong, look at this quote from kelly saying that all the schools recruiting him have great academics'.

fucking guys over there don't know how to take things. i bring up that unc has a better reputation than we do and people flip shit. i didn't say anything at all out of line, and i wasn't even trying to troll, i'm just being objective about recruiting.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 11:20 AM. Reason : have i turned into jaybee?]

7/31/2008 11:18:11 AM

your gay little comment on academics. there was no need for it. You just wanted to shove some more cocks in your ass and pretend that you are somehow superior to the people on Packpride.

7/31/2008 11:19:31 AM

i made like 20 comments about academics, you're going to have to be more specific.

7/31/2008 11:20:39 AM

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"10. Derrick Favors, 6-9, C, South Atlanta (Ga.) The Georgia big man wasn't quite as dominating throughout his time in Las Vegas as many expected, but he still produced on both ends of the court. He's in the mix with John Wall and others for the top spot in the senior class. Recruiting Buzz: Georgia, Georgia Tech and N.C. State are heavily in the mix."

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/8386818/These-ten-showed-they%27re-players-in-Vegas#tb

im glad this has been listed now...i really hope LO Brown can get in his ear

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"Howell picks Wolfpack and ACC North Carolina State has snared ESPN 100 forward Richard Howell, ranked No. 60 overall in the class of 2009. Among many others were Oregon, Texas, Virginia Tech, Auburn, Marquette and Michigan State. Howell joins ESPN 100 guard Lorenzo Brown and guard Scott Wood as verbal commitments for the Wolfpack. ESPN.com's recruiting director Bob Gibbons comments on N.C. State's recent good fortune. "It is absolutely amazing how ACC teams are getting back-to-back commitments from ESPN 100 prospects," said Gibbons. "With Monday's commitment from Howell, head coach Sidney Lowe and his hardworking staff have snared two prime prospects in two days from the talent-rich state of Georgia." Howell's commitment came just a day after Brown's announcement. Gibbons recently saw both players in spring events. "Howell and Brown played on the same Worldwide Renegades team in my Tournament of Champions in May, and both made the All-Tournament Team," Gibbons said. "In June they were outstanding at the NBPA Top 100 Camp, and Howell was rated one of the four best power forwards in that event. We rated him the best power forward at the Reebok All-American Camp in July." Gibbons also compares Howell to another Wheeler, Ga. native. "Howell plays for the same travel team, the Atlanta-based Worldwide Renegades, as did former N.C. State standout and NBA first round draft pick, J. J.Hickson," said Gibbons. "And, in my opinion, Howell could have just as much impact for the Wolfpack as did Hickson. He is not as tall as J.J., but Howell is much more versatile, athletic, and can even play as a wing forward despite his size and muscular physique. I rate Howell right there with Hickson as the two best recruits that Coach Lowe has brought to N.C. State, and I project him as an immediate starter next year." Howell spoke with ESPN.com and felt the Raleigh was the right spot. "My mother and members of my family live in Raleigh, and I just felt that it was the right place for me," Howell said. "I really have a great relationship with Coach Lowe and Coach (Larry) Harris, and believe that I will have a very successful experience both in basketball and in the classroom at N.C. State."

7/31/2008 11:27:05 AM

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"i made like 20 comments about academics, you're going to have to be more specific."

Your initial troll that brought it all about. You aren't some little angel, your nothing more than a blowhard troll.

7/31/2008 11:30:16 AM

Quote :

"say one thing that isn't totally flattering of nc state and people flip shit"

7/31/2008 11:32:13 AM

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"I rate Howell right there with Hickson as the two best recruits that Coach Lowe has brought to N.C. State, and I project him as an immediate starter next year."

Damn and Gibbons is usually spot on.

7/31/2008 11:34:08 AM

ok i realize you're trolling me, but here's what he said, and my response:

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"DavieWolf83 wrote: I don't know about the Wear rumor, but I think the likelihood of Ryan picking UNC-CH is high (I personally think greater than a 70% chance) and much higher than the chance he selects NC State. Coach Lowe is really trying hard here and I can not fault his effort. I think the academic reputation of the school will carry a lot more weight with Ryan than it does with 90% of the average top-50 players. This is where NC State is at a disadvantage to the other schools and is something Coach Lowe can not change. funny. I heard Ryan say himself on a radio interview that the academics of the schools recruiting him are all very good so that would not be a determining factor in where he goes. but then, what does he know."

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"^ it's not like the kid's going to come out and say 'the academics of all the schools recruiting me, except nc state, are really good'. we have a good engineering program, but don't kid yourself, as an overall school we don't hold a candle to notre dame, vanderbilt, stanford, etc."

that's not trolling or me being an ass, that's that guy being a fucking idiot.

7/31/2008 11:36:08 AM

Which was a completely unnecessary comment. I get it, you think you are better than everyone else. But here is a newsflash, we aren't ECTC or any number of shitty schools. And only an engineering student would talk shit about CHASS, being that they know very little about the college.

p.s. don't post premium content over here.

7/31/2008 11:41:13 AM

ohhhhhhh, you think i'm trolling b/c i'm putting down chass. okay, i can live w/ that.

and i'm going to go on a limb and say i'm allowed to post stuff here that i myself posted on pp.

and it was necessary, he was trying to tell someone they were wrong by saying something totally stupid.

7/31/2008 11:43:05 AM

lol no once you post it over there it becomes packpride exclusive content. you can't even speak of it verbally anymore to anyone that isn't a subscriber.

7/31/2008 11:45:43 AM

You aren't allowed to post things that other people had posted, which you did.

Your post was nothing more than a pot shot at NC State. We know we aren't on the same level as Carolina, but at the same time we aren't some shitty school either, which you implied in your post. We do, contrary to your own opinion, have a good academic standing.

7/31/2008 11:58:58 AM

What, like 11th out of 12th in the ACC?

That's not trolling btw. And that's putting us ahead of FSU...

7/31/2008 12:04:52 PM

why would i take pot shots at nc state? i love this school.

but jesus man, if ryan kelly's decision comes down to academics and he holds offers from notre dame, stanford, vanderbilt and nc state, he's not coming to nc state. i can't help that.

7/31/2008 12:05:05 PM

No shit we aren't on that level. But at the same time, that does not mean that every student who says academics is looking to go to the number 1 university. The point still stands, while we may not be the number 1 academic university in this country we aren't a boat full of idiots. Well maybe you are an idiot, but that doesn't mean the university and its academic standards are shit either.

^^considering the academic standing of the ACC that isn't bad. I would put us above Clemson though.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 12:12 PM. Reason : .]

7/31/2008 12:10:59 PM

^^^ you're putting clemson ahead of us?

oops, too slow

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 12:11 PM. Reason : .]

7/31/2008 12:11:11 PM

Quote :

"No shit we aren't on that level."

if you openly admit this, then what the fuck are you arguing w/ me about?

7/31/2008 12:11:52 PM

Because you post directly implied that we sucked at academics, which we don't.

7/31/2008 12:13:04 PM

i didn't say we sucked, i said we're not as good as the other schools who he has offers from.

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"But at the same time, that does not mean that every student who says academics is looking to go to the number 1 university."

dude, it's not like it's between the #1 university in the country and us, the #2 university in the country. here are the schools that have offered kelly.

Davidson
Georgetown
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Notre Dame
Stanford
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Wake Forest

we're last on that list of 9, kid.

7/31/2008 12:14:47 PM

INTERNET FIGHT!!!

7/31/2008 12:20:17 PM

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"^^^ you're putting clemson ahead of us?"

Uhhhh, yes, and everyone else in Academia would.... (as an overall undergraduate school). I'd put Clemson ahead of VT too.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 12:24 PM. Reason : s]

7/31/2008 12:22:19 PM

^^^Yet, being number 9 on that list doesn't make us a poor school academically.

And it doesn't matter how we rank on the US News and World Report when it comes to him making a decision. Stating academics is your reason to attend school is the same as saying tradition. It all boils down to what someone is looking at particularly. If based strictly on the overall academic tradition of the school, then he would have already made up his mind and chose Vanderbilt, but he didn't.

Again, you are just a fucking troll.

7/31/2008 12:42:17 PM

What is the most popular major for Athletes at NCSU anyways? I'm guessing something in CHASS like world history-is there really THAT big of a difference among universities nationwide? I guess it could be something like Parks/Rec or Sports Management as well.

7/31/2008 12:45:54 PM

parks/rec is popular, as is communication and MDS. Can't forget Business Management either.


NC State doesn't offer a World history major.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 12:52 PM. Reason : .]

7/31/2008 12:51:57 PM

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"If based strictly on the overall academic tradition of the school, then he would have already made up his mind and chose Vanderbilt, but he didn't."

vanderbilt is not clearly the best on that list, which includes georgetown, stanford and notre dame among others.

7/31/2008 1:06:25 PM

It makes sense that a good portion of student athletes would major in PRT. Most Division I athletes are hardcore competitors that live and breath their sport, which is one reason why they stood out among their peers also playing the sport and were recruited by a DI school. Their sheer love of the sport and determination made them better. So if their biggest interest is in sports and they love them enough that they see a future for themselves in sports then it's a no brainer that they'd choose to major in sports management. With the sports management degree they could go on to be a coach, manage an athletic facilty, manage an athletic department/team, or a number of companies involved in the sporting world. Then with the communications degree a number of athletes see themselves as being good conversationalist and might want to be a sports anchor or work in the sports department of a news station. It especially makes sense for someone that has potential to make it in the pros to major in communications considering that it doesn't take much to get an anchor job after you retire. Just look at Emmitt Smith.

7/31/2008 1:07:21 PM

^^sorry, he would have taken Stanford, but not Notre Dame or Georgetown since they are both below Vanderbilt.

7/31/2008 1:13:07 PM

this fight yall are having is ridiculous and came out of no where.

shut up already, we all realize State isnt he MOST academically prestigious school in the ACC but certainly not the least either.

thats that, just shut up about him, he made one freakin comment and now youre taking up a whole page over here flipping out over it. let it be dude, let it be. I dont think Kelly is gonna go look at that comment and make his decision off it.

just let it go, back to the recruiting not the retarded arguing.

7/31/2008 1:29:42 PM

I think we have a better chance of landing Favors than landing Kelly. Just my 2 cents.

7/31/2008 1:31:26 PM

You guys are fucking idiots.

Can we please get back to talking about basketball recruiting?

7/31/2008 1:31:43 PM

^^ i agree, although i don't think we have a great chance w/ either of them.

7/31/2008 1:35:09 PM