Neo,

dunno if this helps you or not but found this on win 7 forums:

Quote :

" I was wrong! This is not voltages! Lag was caused by "Multi step OC booster" option enabled in BIOS, while FSB was raised to 300 Mhz. When this option was disabled (even with FSB set to 300 MHz) lag disappeared! But according to manual this option was desgined to help for OC!"

http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/22313-aero-lag-good-system.html

that's the only thread where I found someone that fixed it. Oddly, everyone that I noticed complaining about it was running 64-bit. Good luck with it. I've yet to have any issues on my old Toshiba laptop with x32.

[Edited on August 31, 2009 at 8:05 AM. Reason : .]

8/31/2009 8:04:38 AM

Quote :

"-Also no matter what i do i can't get the monitors to switch from 59 hertz to 60 hertz. It's like they're stuck on 59. "

This is a bug, your monitor is actually running at 60hz. It doesn't affect anything (games or otherwise) that I've seen.

And the lag issue is 100% guaranteed to either be a problem with a driver or firmware. Aero operates smoothly on even the shittiest of onboard video solutions.

8/31/2009 5:01:18 PM

^yeah thought so. I'm hoping it gets fixed soon with a new driver. It's only slightly noticeable but enough where i could tell a difference from vista. Windows 7 came with some cool wall papers.

8/31/2009 8:30:32 PM

Attn: Noen

This isn't limited to Win7, but I didn't think it was worthy of it's own thread. Does anyone notice when you're forcefully disconnected from mstsc -- if you reconnect from the same instance, you have to restore the window and maximize it again for keystrokes to register?

9/2/2009 11:02:34 AM

i'm not sure i've ever noticed that

[Edited on September 2, 2009 at 11:27 AM. Reason : forcefully disconnected like if you reboot it?]

9/2/2009 11:26:45 AM

Quote :

" that's the only thread where I found someone that fixed it. Oddly, everyone that I noticed complaining about it was running 64-bit. Good luck with it. I've yet to have any issues on my old Toshiba laptop with x32."

After seeing windows 7 on a few different computers i've noticed the issue on all the computers. There's a slight lag when opening/closing windows compared to vista. As Noen said it's probably just a driver issue. Apparently Aero had the same issue when Vista just came out too.

-Oh and it's rather hard to see on smaller monitors and laptops. Very slight. Enough to notice though. Like 2 steps to opening instead of one fluid one.

[Edited on September 2, 2009 at 12:59 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2009 12:58:01 PM

^^ or log on to the remote connected PC with hands/eyes. Or internet failure.

9/2/2009 2:16:16 PM

Can't say I've ever been forcefully dropped from a remote connection *shrug*

9/2/2009 4:01:00 PM

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/cc442495.aspx?ITPID=insider

90 day Win7 Enterprise trial, fwiw.

9/2/2009 5:11:00 PM

http://houseparty.com/windows7/details

9/2/2009 9:56:01 PM

Man those reactions are classic.

9/3/2009 8:09:06 AM

hahaha. Microsoft really needs to find a new technique.

9/3/2009 8:27:06 AM

Quote :

"Can't say I've ever been forcefully dropped from a remote connection *shrug*"

I wish in the 10+ years that I myself have been around computers I could say the same. That is quite a feat sir and definitely something you should list on your resume.

9/3/2009 8:51:11 AM

anyone else had problems with the windows media streaming service? i can't remember the exact name of it but the button in control panel to "turn on media streaming" didn't do shit for me. i had to open up the service in computer management and change the log on account and something else that i can't remember in order to get it going

i was about to throw a damn controlled at my xbox 360 last night bc i couldn't get my video to stream.

9/8/2009 4:38:02 PM

I still use TVersity to stream to my 360 and I use a MediaPortal install defaulted to my secondary display (Vizio) for my bedroom.

I love the media extender feel and UI when I have it running on my 360, but it's definitely not 'pirate friendly'. Why can't everyone just accept the mkv container and let us stream our x264 rips seamlessly?!

If it's good enough for the scene it should be good enough for everyone else god dammit!!11 Though I did read something about DivX jumping on board and their mkv playback integration.

IBT the new straight-edge anti-piracy Noen replies. [Dood, leik we both know each other's "morally gray" pasts, so...]

[Edited on September 8, 2009 at 5:26 PM. Reason : ]

9/8/2009 5:25:48 PM

Quote :

"Why can't everyone just accept the mkv container and let us stream our x264 rips seamlessly?! "

It does support h.264 streaming.

It doesn't support MKV for a variety of reasons, none of which have to do with the legality of the content. MKV isn't a stream friendly container either.

9/8/2009 5:29:35 PM

sdfsdf

[Edited on September 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM. Reason : double pizost]

9/8/2009 5:29:35 PM

Yeah, definitely knew h.264 was possible (most easily through the HD WMA nonsense correct? which some groups have petitioned for acceptance and others release anyway).

I guess ignorance is limiting my ability to comprehend what happened regarding the container timeline ie AVI[DivXviD]/MPEGx/MOV/etc. where MKV is now making it so difficult to enable natively. Is on the fly transcoding the only way we're going to approach a seamless mkv stream with MCE?

PS: I don't know if MOV streams or not, I was just throwing it in as another example.

9/8/2009 5:54:38 PM

everyone should just stop being gay babbys and use WMV for everything. Silverlight runs on everything worth using and IIS smooth streaming is hot shit better than all this gay as hell flash crap. For release groups, wmv should be the prefered container since it plays on just about everything.

9/8/2009 5:59:23 PM

ehe.

9/8/2009 6:01:10 PM

^^MKV in 7MC:

Install Haali splitter (x86 on their site, x64 beta here)

Install MPC Standalone filters: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/files/

Install DirectShow Filter Changer: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146910

Everything should work natively in 7MC. No idea if it will stream to extenders, but it's worth a shot.

9/8/2009 6:17:00 PM

i wish you could use win7 as a win7 media center extender. my xbox360 is loud and no way in hell i'm gonna buy a dedicated hardware extender

9/8/2009 6:36:27 PM

^^ Oh no doubt, it works flawlessly on my Win7 MCE box, but I love Media Portal's TV-Series and Moving Pictures (bous back me up!!) too much to drop it for MCE.

^If your 360 is no longer under warranty, you can flash the firmware to lower the read speed, though I am not sure if the performance : noise ratio is worth it.

Extenders are and have always been my issue. Like I said, I fucking love the interface and I've even installed a couple of transcode360 plugins to keep it, but as of late TVersity has me by the balls.





[Edited on September 8, 2009 at 7:22 PM. Reason : flashnfo]

9/8/2009 7:20:00 PM

Quote :

"Oh no doubt, it works flawlessly on my Win7 MCE box, but I love Media Portal's TV-Series and Moving Pictures (bous back me up!!) too much to drop it for MCE."

What does TV-Series do that isn't native functionality in 7MC? 90% of my use of 7MC is to record tv series, and I've yet to be left wanting for anything.

Moving Pictures looks like a tile and list view for movies... again what's different here? Yeah it looks "cool", but what makes it better or different from 7mc?

(feel free to PM or start/point me to another thread since this really doesn't go in here)

9/8/2009 9:06:05 PM

^It's been briefly touched on in the Ultimate HTPC thread.
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=524493&page=8

Basically the two plugins are interchangeable with each other (one for tv other for movies obv) and they allowed me to effectively scan and tag over a TB's worth of media with every possible file naming scheme with 95% accuracy. For stragglers, the ability to add your own variables and manual tagging is a click away.

Once tagged, as seen -- it downloads the art, presents it in a cool amazingly intuitive UI with poster view or various synopsis views (updated in quasi-real time) and will even auto-hide episode summaries not marked as viewed.

I tried a few MCE plugins that claimed to do the same, but I have yet to find one that is as accurate and painless as the aforementioned. Directory structures and file names remain untouched.

But yeah, running off into tangent-land here so we can continue in the HTPC thread, which you actively post in so maybe you can be persuaded to take a look at this front end?!

bous is involved in the TV-Series development and could probably explain the process much better than I did.

[Edited on September 8, 2009 at 11:15 PM. Reason : redundantly inappropriate comma usage ITP]

9/8/2009 11:12:28 PM

I love TV Shows and Moving Pictures on Media Portal. Really flashy when you have guests over.

I think bous was my E115 teacher.

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 1:15 AM. Reason : .]

9/9/2009 1:11:15 AM

Will windows 7 utilize all 4 cores in a quad core processor?

9/9/2009 10:51:38 PM

Yes.

Just a quick google:
http://windows7info.net/news/multi-core-operating-system/

9/10/2009 2:11:52 AM

Noen, i have a serious question for you: do you think the massive disk space requirements of win7 are justified (16gb for 32-bit, 20gb for 64-bit)? this comes from a brief discussion in the netbook thread comparing the sizes of different OSes (XP at 1.5gb, ubuntu at 3gb, and snow leopard at 5gb)

it seems that the development team spent all their time making win7 into what vista should have been in the first place but decided it was easier to make it huge than to make it disk-space efficient...and yes, i know and agree that disk space is cheap and so it shouldn't matter that much...but still, 20gb seems a bit on the high side

9/10/2009 1:21:28 PM

I've read that the printer drivers alone accounted for nearly 1GB of disk space... for Vista at least. I'd rather have the hard drive space back and use the disk that comes with the printer or Windows update for the one driver I'll need.

Still, that would only get you down to a 19GB clean install.

9/10/2009 2:43:21 PM

Is anybody using ReadyBoost? I have a 2 GB flash drive I don't use ever, so I'm gonna stick it in the back of my desktop and see if it helps at all. just curious how low to set my expectations

9/10/2009 3:01:23 PM

^^ yeah...they should allow you to choose how much you want to install (i'm sure there's a way to change this, but i'm talking about doing it by default, like an advanced install option)...i'd be more than happy to just dl any driver i need, or pop the vista disc into the drive if no intarweb is available

^ do you have 2 more gigs of ram? if so, set your expectations pretty low

9/10/2009 3:04:35 PM

why is there no option to show "all programs" by default on the windows 7 start menu? is this another case of microsoft telling me what's best for me? yes, yes, i realize all i have to do is click "all programs", but that's one click more than should be necessary

9/10/2009 7:50:10 PM

windows key + starting typing the program name = 0 clicks

9/10/2009 10:15:05 PM

I'm sorry, but anyone that thinks a 20GB OS in the age of 1.5 TB drives for $90 is a serious question is just looking for a fight.

9/10/2009 10:23:25 PM

^^exactly. i haven't even clicked on all programs since i installed win 7. just start typing the name and hit enter.

[Edited on September 10, 2009 at 10:24 PM. Reason : ^^]

9/10/2009 10:24:06 PM

^^it's a relevant question given the rise in netbooks and SSDs

[Edited on September 10, 2009 at 10:25 PM. Reason : ^same here]

9/10/2009 10:25:09 PM

well i found the first casualty of hardware that won't work in W7. My Canoscan scanner, although in it's defense it didn't work very well in Vista 64 either. I tried installing manually and automatically and Windows says there is no compatible driver so looks like I'll need a new scanner. Its ok I think this was a good one for 6 years...

9/10/2009 10:44:06 PM

Quote :

"why is there no option to show "all programs" by default on the windows 7 start menu? "

The simple answer is: because there's a search bar.
The more complex answer is: because it's inefficient.

9/11/2009 1:27:19 AM

and the right answer is because user preference has been thrown to the wind on a lot of things, by over zealous UI designers. having to hack my quick launch bar back? come on guys.

9/11/2009 1:41:36 AM

Quote :

"and the right answer is because user preference endless customization has been thrown to the wind on a lot of things, by over zealous UI designers millions and millions of data points from usage data."

We all get you can't do things EXACTLY the way you used to. But stop making ignorant comments. Statements like ^ are borderline retarded. And "turning on quick launch" takes all of 10 seconds: Right-click -> Toolbars -> New Toolbar...

Thought I don't know what the hell you need it for with the super bar

9/11/2009 3:55:50 AM

Windows 7 Starter
The least-featured edition of Windows 7; the Windows Aero theme is not included, and it won't be available in a 64-bit variant. This edition will be available pre-installed on computers through system integrators or computer manufacturers.[6][11]

Windows 7 Home Basic
Windows 7 Home Basic will be available in emerging markets such as Bangladesh, Brazil, People's Republic of China, India, Indonesia, Mexico, Pakistan, the Philippines, and Thailand.[12] It will not be available in countries such as Australia, Canada, France, Germany, The Netherlands, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, New Zealand, the United States, and the United Kingdom.[12] Some Aero options are excluded along with several new features.[12]

Windows 7 Home Premium
This edition contains features aimed at the home market segment, such as Windows Media Center, Windows Aero and touch-screen controls.[13]

Windows 7 Professional
This edition is targeted towards enthusiasts and small business users.[14] It includes all the features of Windows 7 Home Premium, and adds the ability to participate in a Windows Server domain.[14] Additional features include operating as a Remote Desktop server, location aware printing, Encrypting File System, Presentation Mode and Windows XP Mode.[14]

Windows 7 Enterprise
This edition targets the enterprise segment of the market and will be sold through volume licensing to companies which have Software Assurance contract with Microsoft.[15] Additional features include support for Multilingual User Interface (MUI) packages, BitLocker Drive Encryption, and UNIX application support.[15] Not available through retail or OEM channels, this edition will be distributed through Microsoft Software Assurance (SA).[15] As a result it includes several SA-only benefits, including a license allowing the running of multiple virtual machines, and activation via VLK.[16]

Windows 7 Ultimate
Windows 7 Ultimate contains the same features as Windows 7 Enterprise, but unlike that edition it will be available to home users on an individual license basis.[17] Windows 7 Home Premium and Windows 7 Professional users will be able to upgrade to Windows 7 Ultimate for a fee using Windows Anytime Upgrade if they wish to do so.[8] Unlike Windows Vista Ultimate, the Windows 7 Enterprise edition will not include the Windows Ultimate Extras feature or any exclusive features.[17]

Europe editions
In response to European Union antitrust investigations, plans were made to ship all editions of Windows 7 in Europe without Internet Explorer included (referred to as Windows 7 E).[18] However, due to negative reactions from computer manufacturers over the plan and backlash over plans not to ship upgrade versions to Europe, the E editions were scrapped in July 2009.[19]Microsoft had previously proposed a "ballot screen" to solve the anti-trust problem.[20]

[edit]N editions
Instead of the "E" versions for Europe, Microsoft have still gone ahead and released versions called "N" ("Not with Media Player"), which ship without Windows Media Player on them in the European market, but only for the retail editions; Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate.[21] This follows what they had to do for later releases of the XP and Vista operating systems before them, following demands from the European Commission previously concerning anti-competitive or anti-trust issues. However users still have the choice whether to buy the standard (non-N) version as they wish, and they are priced identically to the standard versions. This is likely to lead to very low sales of these N editions, just as reported for XP and Vista, as most users would rather make the choice themselves at a later date, if at all.[22][23][24][25] [26]
It is unclear whether some similar-to-N versions will be released in South Korea, as the authorities there also made demands on Microsoft regarding such issues on both XP and Vista.

gotta love me some eleventy billion editions of one operating system

Or just one.

9/11/2009 6:18:29 AM

Quote :

"windows key + starting typing the program name = 0 clicks "

i'm not at a win7 computer right now...does that look up the program or the publisher or whatever it was installed under? for example, if i wanted to play oblivion by bethesda softworks and the oblivion link is in the bethesda softworks folder, which do i type in? either?

Quote :

"I'm sorry, but anyone that thinks a 20GB OS in the age of 1.5 TB drives for $90 is a serious question is just looking for a fight."

you're sorry, alright, but only because you don't think things through before you write them out...i SPECIFICALLY mentioned netbooks (but i'm sure you completely ignored obvious reasons why size-conscious OS installs are a valid concern)

Quote :

"The simple answer is: because there's a search bar. The more complex answer is: because it's inefficient."

look, i know i know I KNOW your dick is hard for microsoft...i'm okay with that because as long as you keep it in your pants around me, i don't CARE that you fap to gates' pics...but can you PLEASE (seriously, i'm begging you) THINK about what you're saying? please? i'm saying ONE CLICK (one!) to show my programs...you are suggesting that pulling up the search bar and then typing out the first couple letters of the program name is MORE EFFICIENT than clicking ONCE? really? let's ignore the fact that i've made it clear that i use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and i don't always have the keyboard next to me...even though i'm sure you're asserting that getting up, grabbing the keyboard, and then TYPING is faster and more efficient than a single fucking click, please stop for a moment and think about what you're saying

just because microsoft has changed something, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT IT BETTER...let me guess, you thought windows ME was a great OS when it was new at the time? let me stop you now and do this for you: "you're not the target audience...RAWR! microsoft knows what you need better than you do...RAWR!"

i was asking a question...if you can't fucking contribute anything of value (because, really, let's be honest...saying the same thing over and over again about how microsoft is right and everyone else is wrong is getting tedious), just shut the fuck up, okay? your ms fanboy drivel is obnoxious

[Edited on September 11, 2009 at 8:16 AM. Reason : .]

9/11/2009 8:15:54 AM

Quote :

"you're sorry, alright, but only because you don't think things through before you write them out...i SPECIFICALLY mentioned netbooks (but i'm sure you completely ignored obvious reasons why size-conscious OS installs are a valid concern"

You need the space, especially on netbooks, for the hibernation and page files. It's got very very little to do with "OS Bloat". A netbook install of Win7 with those turned off and a minimal driver base only uses 6-700mb of disk space. It will use a maximum of ~8gb over it's lifetime, and MS wanted to ensure enough headroom for users to be able to store documents and applications as well. Considering 16gb is already pretty much the standard capacity for netbooks, this shouldn't be a big issue, and it's not "hard coded" from what I know (I installed the Betas and RC on an 8gb drive without any issues).

Quote :

"i'm saying ONE CLICK (one!) to show my programs...you are suggesting that pulling up the search bar and then typing out the first couple letters of the program name is MORE EFFICIENT than clicking ONCE? really? let's ignore the fact that i've made it clear that i use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and i don't always have the keyboard next to me...even though i'm sure you're asserting that getting up, grabbing the keyboard, and then TYPING is faster and more efficient than a single fucking click, please stop for a moment and think about what you're saying"

I'm saying if it's a commonly used program, why wouldn't you already have it pinned on the taskbar? If it's an infrequently used program, then yes, it's MUCH more efficient to click the start button and then begin typing the name, rather than the targeting time needed to click start, all programs, visually process the list, find the folder, click again, process the list, find the application and click again.

Now you are just being a troll. If you're a mouse heavy user, USE TASKBAR PINNING. You can load up every application you ever use and virtually never need to use the programs menu.

Quote :

"just because microsoft has changed something, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT IT BETTERWORSE...let me guess, you thought windows ME95 was a great OS when it was new at the time? let me stop you now and do this for you: "you're not the target audience...RAWR! microsoft knows what you need better than you do...RAWR!""

No you aren't. You are the "elite", "my way is the best way already" expert user who is almost impossible to get to change their behaviors. This is pretty evident by the entirety of your posts in tech talk. You have learned your way of doing things, and it takes a damn act of God for you to reconsider your style of use.

And sorry, but YEARS of usage data from MILLIONS of users with overwhelming trend statistics is not fanboy drivel or obnoxiousness. There are a number of valid complaints/issues/concerns brought up in this thread already, but yours don't fall into that bucket.

http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/ is one of the most transparent blogs about a product cycle ever produced, Microsoft or otherwise. If you doubt my words, do your due diligence and read it. There's plenty of data, charts, graphs and explanation to back up my points.

[Edited on September 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM. Reason : .]

9/11/2009 8:52:15 AM

kdawg(c): In the US there is Home Premium, Professional and Ultimate. The "E" editions are gone, it's all consolidated. As a consumer you'll never see Starter/Basic/Enterprise.

And personally I like having the choice to save money and not be forced to pay for everything whether I use it or not. But that could just be me.

Kind of like how there's a Macbook, a Macbook Pro and a Macbook Air, huh? Why not make just ONE GIANT laptop for everyone? That's gotta be better right?

[Edited on September 11, 2009 at 8:57 AM. Reason : /]

9/11/2009 8:56:44 AM

I thought that Starter and Basic were going to be on all the new Netbooks and Ultra-Mobiles. So in theory consumers Stateside will have to deal with them, they just probably won't know what it is they're using.

(or did you mean retail consumers?)

[Edited on September 11, 2009 at 9:08 AM. Reason : btw, that blog is damned interesting, thanks.]

9/11/2009 9:02:52 AM

i'll second the http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/ blog. i think jensen harris' office 2007 development blog was better, but this is still very, very good

9/11/2009 9:25:45 AM

Quote :

"I'm sorry, but anyone that thinks a 20GB OS in the age of 1.5 TB drives for $90 is a serious question is just looking for a fight."

i brought up the space requirements in the notebook thread originally. yes it is definitely a serious question. even though dell doesn't offer them anymore, my mini 9 has all of 8gb. yes, eight. when you find a 1.5tb ssd, please let me know.

9/11/2009 10:30:32 AM

^most 2.5" ssd's are 60-250GB right now, only netbooks and mp3 players use nand flash that small.

9/11/2009 10:42:56 AM

hmmm...i guess i hadn't been paying that much attention to SSDs. i didn't realize they made capacities that high now

from newegg
4GB(1)
8GB(4)
16G(20)
24GB(1)
30GB(6)
32GB(31)
48GB(1)
60GB(11)
64GB(32)
80GB(5)
120GB(8)
128GB(22)
160GB(4)
192GB(1)
250GB(3)
256GB(13)

[Edited on September 11, 2009 at 10:51 AM. Reason : more]

9/11/2009 10:51:16 AM