^^is the reason I go for the chargers. They don't have anyrings. Let me like who I like. There's no bandwagon to be found.

12/22/2010 12:27:49 PM

jesus christ SD... the Bengals?? really??? with their best player out?

12/26/2010 4:48:33 PM

Props to the cincci rookies. I just don't undersand the chargers this year. Glad I'm not a football coach

12/26/2010 4:54:51 PM

fire norv

12/26/2010 5:13:06 PM

Has tolbert been benched?

12/26/2010 5:19:53 PM

he got taken out on a stretcher

12/26/2010 5:24:31 PM

aw man. He was running like a beast the last few weeks

12/26/2010 5:35:23 PM

He fumbled twice in like 5 carries today

12/26/2010 5:48:40 PM

god dammit sigh

12/26/2010 6:14:46 PM

WTF happened to the reciever there? He jumped like 2 inches to try to make the catch, then instead of tackling the guy making the interception he just limped off to the side.

12/26/2010 6:23:14 PM

boom

12/26/2010 6:39:45 PM

Where the fuck is the defense. How were they number 1 at any point of the year.

12/26/2010 6:42:18 PM

getting dominated by a totally shit team with none of their good players in... pitiful

12/26/2010 6:48:14 PM

Fuck Norv Turner and AJ Smith. This is absolute bullshit. Fire everyone.

12/26/2010 6:53:33 PM

definition of a finesse team (excluding tolbert) with no finesse or anything for that matter on special teams

play anyone remotely physical and it is over...hire cowher

[Edited on December 26, 2010 at 8:03 PM. Reason : .]

12/26/2010 8:01:04 PM

How does the chargers annihilate kansas city, embarrass indianapolis, YET lose to the arguably second worst team in the nfl. This along with our fluky fuckups/losses can only be one variable coaching.....

12/27/2010 12:08:55 AM

Not exactly the best game from Rivers either.

Just a couple games takes you from being talked about as a surefire MVP candidate to not even being talked about.

12/27/2010 7:47:26 AM

KC didn't have their starting QB.

12/27/2010 8:15:52 AM

Surely this gets Norv gone finally?

Who do they hire? Try for Gruden, Cowher, Dungy, etc. or promote Rivera?

12/27/2010 2:12:19 PM

^^^ no shit, thank god I didnt need him this week



[Edited on December 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM. Reason : d]

12/27/2010 4:21:46 PM

Norv is prolly coming back in 2011. I hope he's fired, but AJ Smith likes him. AJ prefers his coaches to be submissive, weak and effeminate, not aggressive, fiery or strong-willed. Norv can cry and wilt with the best of em. If the Chargers want a real head coach, they are gonna have to fire AJ.

The team will move to LA in 2012. Around that time they'll probably get a big name head coach, as well.

12/27/2010 5:02:19 PM

will they be called the Red Batton Chargers?

12/27/2010 5:40:04 PM

Quote :

"The team will move to LA in 2012. Around that time they'll probably get a big name head coach, as well."

proof

12/27/2010 5:57:24 PM

Iguess we are the steelers of last year

12/27/2010 10:22:28 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5962286

Quote :

"The San Diego Chargers missed the playoffs despite having the NFL's No. 2-ranked offense and top-ranked defense. Still, team president Dean Spanos told the San Diego Union-Tribune that both coach Norv Turner and general manager A.J. Smith will return next season. "

12/28/2010 11:17:52 AM

So, they officially finished the season with the #1 offense and the #1 defense, yet missed the playoffs.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/team

I found this interesting blurb also

Quote :

"The Chargers are the 5th team in since the merger to lead the NFL in total offense and defense Week 12 or later. 2 of the previous 4 won the Super Bowl but none lost more than 2 games in the regular season."

Historically bad special teams this season to ruin what could have been an amazing team.

1/3/2011 11:22:49 AM

Charlie Whitehurst gets his revenge!!!

1/3/2011 12:31:21 PM

Special teams were terrible, but unless you can go back and confirm that special teams alone led to 4 or more losses, the fact is that this team was just not very good.

1/3/2011 12:36:31 PM

Quote :

""The Chargers are the 5th team in since the merger to lead the NFL in total offense and defense Week 12 or later. 2 of the previous 4 won the Super Bowl but none lost more than 2 games in the regular season.""

Fucking amazing that this team did not make the playoffs. Surely they'll at least fire the special teams coach for this wasted season. Someone needs to be held accountable if Norv is being retained. Hopefully they'll be able to keep Rivera this offseason.

1/3/2011 12:39:46 PM

I'd add fumbles & Norv to the special teams excuse

1/3/2011 12:39:48 PM

Also, I always thought using yards as the official ranking of offenses and defenses was silly. It should be points, as thats all that matters. And the Chargers finished 2nd and 10th, offensively and defensively.

1/3/2011 12:42:42 PM

Yeah they were 3rd in fumbles lost also. So that was a big problem too, none of their RB's can hold onto the ball. Fumbles cost them the Patriots game, special teams lost them the Raiders, Seahawks, and Chiefs games. All 4 of those games were absolutely dominated by the Chargers but were given away on miscues.

Other than someone having to take the blame for Special teams (Steve Crosby as ST coach, Norv as head coach supposedly being responsible for everything that happens, AJ Smith for not having good personnel) I think Norv did a good job this year. He did have that offense rolling despite having nobodies in as receivers and constant injuries to skill players.



[Edited on January 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM. Reason : ^ Maybe, but only if you just count points scored by offenses and points scored against defenses]

1/3/2011 12:45:41 PM

I guess you could call them extremely unlucky, and the fact is this team would probably beat KC on a neutral field 7 or 8 times out of 10. But the fact remains, that they only won half their games, got swept by the Raiders, and laid a huge egg in Cincy in a game they absolutely had to have. The GM did his job...talent wise, this is a top 5 team. Its the players and coaches fault for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, time and time again.

1/3/2011 12:50:22 PM

How bout those fucking raiders. Send those fuckers to the playoffs.

1/3/2011 12:53:03 PM

The Raiders went 6-0 in the division and 2-8 out of the division.

And they played the NFC West.

1/3/2011 1:17:11 PM

I did not see the game but heard special teams almost fumbled the game for the chargers by allowing a KR for a TD and a on-side recovery. The chargers must have the record for most special teams touchdowns allowed in a single season.

Quote :

"Special teams were terrible, but unless you can go back and confirm that special teams alone led to 4 or more losses, the fact is that this team was just not very good. "

Week 3 Seahawks: 2 KR for TD giving the Seahawks 20-27 victory.

Week 5 Raiders: 2 Punts Blocked. First punt blocked for a safety, Raiders than scored a FG on the possession following the free kick. Second punt blocked and recovered for a TD. Raiders win 27-35.

Week 6 Rams: Missed 40 yd FG and some generous returns allowed during punts to set St. Louis up. St. Louis wins 17-20.
Week 7 Patriots: ST false started pushing a 45 yd FG attempt into a Missed 50 yard FG attempt, which would have tied game. While stupid turnover blunders were the reason for the team to be behind, a competent kicker needs to make the clutch field goal not to mention not getting a stupid penalty to push the back-up kicker 5 yards further. ST also was VERY generous with letting the Pats start in good field position Charger 40 yd mark or better on several of the KickOff's.

[Edited on January 3, 2011 at 1:39 PM. Reason : a]

1/3/2011 1:34:22 PM

Quote :

"I did not see the game but heard special teams almost fumbled the game for the chargers by allowing a KR for a TD and a on-side recovery. The chargers must have the record for most special teams touchdowns allowed in a single season."

Maybe, but I remember in week 7 they had more punts blocked than the entire rest of the league combined.

[Edited on January 3, 2011 at 2:01 PM. Reason : I think it was 5 punts, and didnt even count one that was blocked but still ended up going 3-4 yards]

1/3/2011 2:00:17 PM

Slave Famous, please help me understand your top five talent comment. I consistently hear this from the media as well, but outside of quarterback, tightend, and maybe Vincent jackson--i don't see any other players who I would consider a top 5 or even top 10 player in the NFL.

1/3/2011 2:57:01 PM

Their offensive line is pretty damn solid. Marcus McNeil is probably one of the best offensive lineman in the league.

Their defense is just solid all around. Philips is a great linebacker, Quentin Jammer use to be one of the best corners in the league and even though he has slowly declined the last year or two, it hasn't been by much. Antoine Cason is good...Weddle is not extremely athletic, but he's a very good tackler and decent safety.

I think Darren Sproles was one of the more dangerous skill players in the league a couple years ago, but teams seem to be able to contain him easily now...although he's still a threat to break big plays.

Gates is pretty much the top TE in the game and Vincent Jackson is one of the best deep threats in the game. That's pretty big right there. And their other wide receivers have a lot of the "measurables", so I think that's why everyone says that the "talent" is there, although it might be a little more "potential" than "talent."

Add all of that to one of the top 5 QBs in the game and you see why everyone thinks it's an extremely talented team.

1/3/2011 3:46:31 PM

Rivers is so good he makes the defense look better.

1/3/2011 3:49:53 PM

What he said, plus a top 5 kicker, a top 5 punter, and Antonio Garay, who makes plays like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smuv32N0Bc8

1/3/2011 3:50:46 PM

I could copy and paste names from at least a dozen teams and make the exact same post jbrick just made. Excluding
gates and rivers who I already mentioned were unique.



[Edited on January 3, 2011 at 4:29 PM. Reason : blackberry post]

1/3/2011 4:24:10 PM

And most if not all of those dozen teams are probably in the playoffs.

Though I hope Seattle wouldn't be on your "list".

1/3/2011 4:31:09 PM

Having top 12 talent is a much different argument than top 5.

1/3/2011 4:34:43 PM

On a neutral field in a one game playoff, I'd take San Diego over everyone but New England, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and New Orleans. They'd have a good chance to shit themselves like they did all year, but they'd have an equally good chance to beat anyone but those four teams, with maybe Atlanta and Philadelphia thrown in as well.

1/3/2011 4:38:37 PM

Guy who does a lot of stats on a Chargers board posted this:

Quote :

"Our #1 ranked D only gave up 269 points. That could have ranked us 3rd in that category, but our opponents managed another 53 points while our D was on the sideline. That means almost one of every six points scored against us happened while our #1 defense was resting. We allowed: 2 punt return TDs (one off a block) 3 kick off return TDs 2 fumble return TDs 2 safeties on punt blocks We out-gained our opponents by almost 2,000 yards (1,984 to be exact), that's 124 yards per game. 1,674 of those yards came in the passing game, meaning we out-gained our opponents by 104.6 ypg in the air. We had 110 more 1st downs than our opponents. The 247 1st downs we allowed were the fewest in the league. Only the Giants allowed fewer 3rd down conversions. We squandered alot this season by not being able to hold onto the ball, and with our historically crappy ST play. We singlehandedly proved that Special Teams play is just as important as offense or defense. With even average special teams play we probably would have won the first games against both the Chiefs and Raiders, and the Seattle game, meaning we could have finished 12-4."

[Edited on January 3, 2011 at 6:14 PM. Reason : ]

1/3/2011 6:12:48 PM

more like the 2010 san diego chargers thread

amirite?

1/3/2011 6:46:04 PM

Well not if were talking about some of the players in the pro bowl.

Or about how whitehurst did pretty good lastnight.

[Edited on January 3, 2011 at 11:05 PM. Reason : hjuki]

1/3/2011 11:02:29 PM

^ Whitehurst did pretty good at home versus a 7-9 Rams team. We're supposed to be impressed?

1/4/2011 8:08:45 AM

LOL @ #1 ranked defense.

Timothy put up 28 and played terribad

1/4/2011 8:30:21 AM