Beat the Very Hard A.I. 1v1

8/26/2010 9:53:00 PM

Word to the wise:

New ATI drivers w/ Catalyst 10.8:
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx

Adds anti-aliasing support to SC2 among other things. Can someone report if it improves their performance?

8/26/2010 10:32:49 PM

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"Just add the cdkey to your current bnet account?"

i did; but it kept the same player profile.. idk

finally dominated in my last game tonight ironically, only i think the 2nd or 3rd time i've tried toss in v2. toss seems too overpowered to me :-/

8/26/2010 11:13:19 PM

Oh I thought you didn't want a new profile...

8/26/2010 11:51:33 PM

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"Adds anti-aliasing support to SC2 among other things."

Isn't this like the 3rd time they've tried to add that?

8/26/2010 11:52:51 PM

may have worded it weird; too lazy to go back. but yeah i wanted a new profile.. won't lose any sleep over it but if it was a couple clicks i figured why not add NCSU into my name.

8/27/2010 12:13:24 AM

They have a free name change coming, so once that hits youll be able to rename yours.

8/27/2010 7:07:38 AM

I think toss is balanced, because toss can get owned by terran early on, and zerg can mass expand and overwhelm. However, make no mistake in the endgame toss is King.

8/27/2010 9:24:37 AM

A protoss player undergrad in the physics department who's ranked ~17 diamond got several calls yesterday from sponsors asking him to play in the upcoming MLG tourney this weekend.

8/27/2010 9:42:13 AM

No I believe I went 2-3 in my placement games and ended up in bronze. I am pretty fail at this game, but at least its still fun. So glad I finally found a replacement for WoW. This is so much better in that I can go a week without playing and when I come back I'm still on a level playing field game wise. Hate having to keep up on gear so I dont get owned by some shitty player in much better gear and feeling like I have to constantly be playing to do so.

8/27/2010 10:03:30 AM

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"I am pretty fail at this game, but at least its still fun. So glad I finally found a replacement for WoW"

I agree with every one of these statements.

I am fail (bronze). I have fun. Havent played wow since I installed SC2.

8/27/2010 10:56:44 AM

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"I am fail (bronze). I have fun. Havent played wow since I installed SC2."

8/27/2010 11:18:20 AM

Has anyone found a use for the Thor's 250 mm strike cannon ability? The only use I see it having is against planetary fortresses and immortals.

8/27/2010 12:14:01 PM

^ At one point in the beta, people liked to use the strike cannons for pulverizing Ultralisks. They would stun the ultras and kill one w/ each use of the cannon ability. I have yet to run into that situation. Can anyone confirm this still works?

8/27/2010 1:43:04 PM

I'd imagine that that upgrade wouldn't help much against Immortals at all.

Basically if you've got Thors going up against Immortals you're just fucked.

8/27/2010 1:43:07 PM

saw a dude downtown last night sporting his MLG shirt and a sweet neck beard. guess he's in town for the tourney.

8/27/2010 1:46:10 PM

Just found a use for it going up against protoss colossi... with the upgraded range they would hit and run up and down cliffs against my thors, strike cannon let me pick them off.

^^ Usually sticking 3-4 scvs to repair each thor gives thors the edge in any ground v ground battle, even against immortals.

And the 250mm strike cannon counts as a special attack so the immortal shields dont really help, plus it stuns the unit being hit.

^^^ The stun doesnt affect Ultralisks anymore, which is strange because I imagine its the only zerg unit worth using the strike cannon on with all the HP. It prevents special abilities from being used... but the only thing an ultra can do that I can think of is burrow, so not really much use against zerg.

[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 2:46 PM. Reason : .]

8/27/2010 2:44:51 PM

Info: First balance & bug fix patch coming middle of September, nerfs across the board:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/692221

8/27/2010 5:05:54 PM

Terran got hit the hardest

8/27/2010 5:49:29 PM

Bah my poor siege tanks those are all that saves me from mass early rapings in some games haha

8/27/2010 6:26:01 PM

I was hoping they would nerf charged void rays

8/27/2010 6:39:53 PM

Anyone else nerding it up tonight and watching the live streams from MLG?

8/27/2010 8:24:08 PM

^^ seen too many void ray ambushes already... those things are ridiculous. i have found though that the most annoying thing in the world of starcraft is some punk running toss and trying to rush-build cannons in enemy bases.

8/27/2010 9:10:08 PM

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"Anyone else nerding it up tonight and watching the live streams from MLG?"

totally. What a way to spend a friday night

8/27/2010 11:02:55 PM

That last match was pretty epic

8/27/2010 11:33:57 PM

cannon rushing is pretty annoying. as a toss player I'm not happy with that nerf. the only effective counter to a 7-pool i've done is to 2 gate with the zealot wall. that 5 seconds could be huge. Also, zealot rushs AREN'T that good. They work vs zerg early game, but against terran marines/maruaders/reapers can all kite them all day.

my PvZ strat is zealot heavy early game, and I gotta do something to delay the inevitable muta/ling

oh, and if you nerf void rays, BCs would be hard to counter as a toss.

[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 11:48 PM. Reason : asdfg]

8/27/2010 11:47:49 PM

i killed 3 kids of 4 in a 4v4 game with cannon rush. i just wanted to see if it could be done. they were terrible (obviously) but it was still amusing.

8/27/2010 11:56:44 PM

None of you went to MLG? I figured at least one of you guys are a big enough sc2 fan to go and check it out live. I'm there competing in Brawl but was able to watch some of the sc2 games. I watched Gretorp beat Silver on Steppes of War....TvT is boring.

Also, it appears NC isn't doing well in any of the tournaments there. We're getting stomped in Brawl. I met the dude that played Huk first round, and he said he got 2-0'd (he's from State). Actually, I think he might be like 1 of 2 NC players in sc2.

[Edited on August 28, 2010 at 1:22 AM. Reason : .]

8/28/2010 1:19:08 AM

Watching live streams is very addicting. Learn a lot and entertaining.

I'm going to have to play custom games for a week when I get back to get in rythm again.

If anyone is interested was thinking of doing like one night a week custom/obs games.
I can help anyone that might need some advice and would love a few eyes watching my games
giving me advice. Could be helpful and fun, I'm by no means an expert but like low/mid
diamond in 1v1and 2v2.

Just a thought post or pm if interested in doing something like that.

8/28/2010 2:31:34 AM

I am damn near unstoppable in Marine Arena

8/28/2010 2:48:50 AM

Marine Arena is pretty easy if you know what you're doing. The only time me and my friend have lost is when we lag out. Hint: Stalkers are OP.

^^i might be interested. i mean, i've got a better than my skill level understanding of things, but it might help to see things from another races POV. if you wanna play or something i might be interested too.

if anyone decent wants to hit the ladder sometime just PM me

[Edited on August 28, 2010 at 6:36 PM. Reason : asdfg]

8/28/2010 6:33:35 PM

4v4s are so fun, but i always seem to get the WORST teammates. PPZT vs. PPZT. Everyone but me and one guy on my team was pretty terrible.

My team:
P (me) - Ended up going mass stalkers, worked really well for me
P - Guy said he was going zealots. Off of one base he built 21 warpgates, 3 forges, 2 cyber cores.... he tried expanding a few times, but failed.
Z - this guy wasn't too bad. Went mass hydra, considering the opponents it wasn't bad.
T - Had no more than 20 marines at any given time. That was his army

Other guys:
P: Went DTs. Nothing more. Didn't really do much.
P: Went Voids. I fucked his army up anytime he attacked.
Z: ling rushed, and then did nothing.
T: Didn't build a single attacking unit until BCs, then massed BCs. My stalkers fucked his world up a few times.

decent teammates and they get raped.

8/29/2010 2:07:35 AM

I <3 colonial wars so much

[Edited on August 29, 2010 at 8:30 AM. Reason : (colony)?]

8/29/2010 8:30:38 AM

i enjoy playing 1v1, 2v2.. i feel like the matchmaking works pretty well. but for 3v3, 4v4, i don't know if it's because not as many people are playing them or what, but my teams (silver and bronze) always get matched up against diamond/platinum players. kind of annoying.

8/29/2010 9:14:02 AM

About the Battlecruiser nerf, has anyone ever seen a BC in a pro game?

8/29/2010 12:38:59 PM

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"i enjoy playing 1v1, 2v2.. i feel like the matchmaking works pretty well. but for 3v3, 4v4, i don't know if it's because not as many people are playing them or what, but my teams (silver and bronze) always get matched up against diamond/platinum players. kind of annoying."

I have found this also, if you are in Bronze for some reason you will get matched against diamond players constantly. The second my team got promoted to silver/gold we were fairly matched more often.

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"About the Battlecruiser nerf, has anyone ever seen a BC in a pro game?"

Exactly, all the patches are meant for MLG 1v1 balance, and they nerf BCs? Ofcourse BCs kick ass, they are expensive as hell and take a lot of teching to get to. If you mass BCs you have usually already won the game.

I still want them to patch void rays. Normally they are fine, but once they get charged its really overpowered.

And yea, about getting into diamond, I can confirm you have to go on a losing streak (2 games atleast) and then get a win for the promotion.

8/29/2010 12:54:07 PM

I like laughing at Zs that 6-10pool in ZvZ and utterly fail, one of SC2s greatest pleasures ><

8/29/2010 6:29:14 PM

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"About the Battlecruiser nerf, has anyone ever seen a BC in a pro game?"

Yes actually. I saw TLO use them a few times. TLO won a few games on BCs against top competition

8/29/2010 7:50:01 PM

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"I still want them to patch void rays. Normally they are fine, but once they get charged its really overpowered."

THIS.

I'm so sick of void rays now. It's actually a pleasant surprise when a toss player doesn't use them.

8/29/2010 8:07:59 PM

Whenever it's a team game, I've yet to see a protoss player that DOESN'T go all stalkers or all void rays

8/29/2010 8:15:33 PM

BC's are definitely present in professional games. Much more so than carriers, less so than Ultras

8/29/2010 8:56:31 PM

Anyone play the mac version? i know it'll run a lot better in Win7 which i have bootcamped, but it sounds fun to play a game on a mac and support that side of things. I have an early '08 MBP w/ a 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo, 8600gtm, and 4 gigs of ram...

Is there a difference between the downloadble version and buying it retail?

8/29/2010 8:57:29 PM

i have an older mbp (than yours) and it runs it on low okay most of the time.. it's locked up a few times too, but my laptop is on its last, crippled, severely burned leg. yours would probably be fine.

[Edited on August 29, 2010 at 9:04 PM. Reason : , also, afaik no diff except none of the physical materials.. disc, manual, etc]

8/29/2010 9:03:52 PM

cool, i'm downloading it now. fun times *geek snort*

i haven't played starcraft in like... ten years?

8/29/2010 9:26:42 PM

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"THIS. I'm so sick of void rays now. It's actually a pleasant surprise when a toss player doesn't use them."

Are you in a lower league? They are seen much less in higher leagues because they are easy to scout for and counter. The lower the league the more you are going to see mass single unit armies. Players can't micro as well and just tend to pick the best all around unit and pump(thus mass stalker, void ray, vikings, etc).

In my 1v1s vs. Toss I tend to see a lot less 4 gate and typically now 3 gate/1 robo.

And yeah they do have to balance the game around high level 1v1 play, and the trickle effect is that the further you get from 1v1 the less balanced the game will be. 4v4 will always be a crap show and always be strats that are way out of wack but they won't fix. You have to balance that way you can't balance around 2v2 or 3v3 games... just wouldn't make sense.

8/29/2010 9:30:44 PM

^^ fwiw, you can download both clients as many times as you want using the same account.. you just wouldn't be able to play from the same account at the same time obv.

^ nah, usually just play custom games... still not all 1337 yet.

[Edited on August 29, 2010 at 9:36 PM. Reason : ]

8/29/2010 9:35:54 PM

3 gate robo is probably the best all around build for protoss. You can get out plenty of stalkers/sentries/lots depending on what you need, you get an observer, which means you can scout easier, and not get destroyed by banshees/dts/infestors. then you can get out immortals if you're going against mass stalker/mech play from terran, and switch to collusi really easily. 4 gate/2 gate is for early aggression, and of course it's not as well rounded.

8/29/2010 10:45:42 PM

I was playing a few nights ago and my partner got planetary fortress rushed.

i couldnt fucking believe it. that has to be the most epic rush ever.

8/30/2010 12:49:02 PM

I saw a video of a zerg player rushing with evolution chamber broodlings.

8/30/2010 2:36:09 PM

How are you going to post that comment without a link to the video

8/30/2010 2:52:21 PM