i'd have to think at this point everyone in the big east is shopping themselves somewhere.

you know i was going to say i'd be shocked if the sec took wvu, but maybe not. their football is weak for sec standards, but certainly not weaker than vandy or kentucky, and with florida state being locked up and oklahoma and oklahoma state looking to move west rather than east, wvu might be one of the better options available, even to the sec. i think wvu is a great option for us, but apparently we're too high brow to do it.

9/18/2011 8:00:26 PM

This shit is like The Bachelor for sports fans.

9/18/2011 8:01:19 PM

west va is fine for the sec. not a home run but a solid add. sort of like us picking up pitt

9/18/2011 8:03:33 PM

I will save the idiot trolls the effort:

derp durrr huh, dey fit in purfect here in this here SEC dur hurp!

9/18/2011 8:06:54 PM

i have a prediction guys: in the next decade "college sports" will become nearly exclusively football and men's basketball and whatever moneysink bullshit that has to exist b/c of title ix.

9/18/2011 8:07:19 PM

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"i think wvu is a great option for us, but apparently we're too high brow to do it."

The prize is New York City, in my opinion. WVU doesn't do anything to get that for us. UConn, Syracuse, Rutgers do.

9/18/2011 8:08:00 PM

fuck a damn Rutgers in MY acc

9/18/2011 8:08:41 PM

why is new york city the prize?

this is about college football.

9/18/2011 8:09:34 PM

9/18/2011 8:09:36 PM

I think the funniest part of this thread is the Elitist attitude of NC State fans are taking to memberships of the ACC. The additions of Pitt and Syracuse drops you down two spots in the ACC in basketball and gives you competition at the middle of the pack in football. I guess you get more wins in baseball?

9/18/2011 8:09:54 PM

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"why is new york city the prize?"

Madison Square Garden. I don't think you can look at this and think this is all football related. And even if it were, it's not like UConn sucks at football. They can compete with the ACC. Going from nothing to the Fiesta Bowl in 10 years is one helluva accomplishment, regardless of what conference you play in. As for Rutgers, well, I don't really know much about them, other than their storied success in the papajohns.com bowl and Eric LeGrand.




upon further research, apparently rutgers played in the first ever football game in college sports in the middle of a picnic:



[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 8:28 PM. Reason : ]

9/18/2011 8:12:12 PM

we're going to suck no matter what making the goal keeping the acc alive and as strong as possible so we dont end up in a POS conference with ECU

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM. Reason : ]

9/18/2011 8:13:42 PM

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"fuck a damn Rutgers in MY acc"

Rutgers? In MY acc? It's more likely than you may think.

9/18/2011 8:16:53 PM

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"I think the funniest part of this thread is the Elitist attitude of NC State fans are taking to memberships of the ACC. The additions of Pitt and Syracuse drops you down two spots in the ACC in basketball and gives you competition at the middle of the pack in football. I guess you get more wins in baseball?"

man you have no idea what's going on. this is about making sure that the ACC, and thus nc state, remains one of the top flight conferences when all is said and done.

why do you think louisville fans are freaking the fuck out? their teams didn't all of the sudden become less talented. all of the sudden they're without a conference, and that's even worse.

and you know what, it does make nc state better. the bigger conferences get more money. two days ago we're on par with the big east, and a lesser to the big 12. right now it looks like we'll be ahead of both of them shortly. that means less money for them, and more money for us, so our teams get better while theirs get worse. we may lose a spot or two in the conference, but we gain many more than that in the country.

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 8:22 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2011 8:20:45 PM

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"Going from nothing to the Fiesta Bowl in 10 years is one helluva accomplishmen"

JesusHChrist. How many times does someone have to point out that the man who orchestrated all of that is now at Maryland? Its just like Spurrier at Duke. He ran shit and then got out when the getting was good. Have you noticed that UConn is 1-2 so far this year...with losses to Iowa State and Vanderbilt?

9/18/2011 8:27:06 PM

well that and the fact that they went 8-5

9/18/2011 8:29:37 PM

pretty sure I gave Edsall credit a few pages ago, so just pipe down.

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 8:32 PM. Reason : ]

9/18/2011 8:29:46 PM

^ while I agree that they will probably go down, I think its too early to say that has happened after 3 games, or even one season

9/18/2011 8:29:58 PM

Assuming we get UConn and a 16th team is from North of NC (like Rutgers or WVU) they should split the conference into 2 8 team divisions of the ACC South, with every school in NC and below, and the ACC North with every team in Virginia and above.

9/18/2011 8:30:15 PM

novel idea there

9/18/2011 8:31:07 PM

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"JesusHChrist. How many times does someone have to point out that the man who orchestrated all of that is now at Maryland? Its just like Spurrier at Duke. He ran shit and then got out when the getting was good. Have you noticed that UConn is 1-2 so far this year...with losses to Iowa State and Vanderbilt?"

Paul Pasqualoni is a pretty good football coach and the biggest mistake Syracuse ever made was firing him. Plus they are pretty much in their infancy as a program.

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 8:33 PM. Reason : no telling how they'll be or what their potential is]

9/18/2011 8:32:27 PM

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"while I agree that they will probably go down, I think its too early to say that has happened after 3 games, or even one season"

True, anything could happen. The cards are stacked against them though. And its not like they were super spectacular last year. They played smart football and sneaked into a BCS bowl riding the weakness of the Big East. Then they got their shit pushed in.

9/18/2011 8:34:09 PM

^^^ I know right

9/18/2011 8:34:44 PM

@Jaybee1200:

Saying you'd rather have WVU over Texas and Oklahoma is like saying you'd rather have a fat bitch with STDs than two gold-digging hotties.

With one option you'll lose your dignity and the other option you'll lose your money. I guess you can pick which is more important.

9/18/2011 9:05:23 PM

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"Rutgers has never had great sports programs but they have that P word. Potential. It's the state university in a rich state. It has infrastructure in place to have the very best facilities and given the right situation is an athletic program that could thrive. And this is coming from someone who HATES Rutgers."

Its really more like a memphis pseudo commuter school with several campuses. Theres too many great schools all around that they don't get as much money as you make it sound.

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"Also, don't name them... New kids on the block Pitt Syracuse BC UConn Mason Dixon. Maryland UVa Virginia Tech Wild Card team TBD Tobacco road Duke NC State UNC Wake Forest Citrus Clemson GT FSU Miami "

9/18/2011 9:06:53 PM

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"Saying you'd rather have WVU over Texas and Oklahoma is like saying you'd rather have a fat bitch with STDs than two gold-digging hotties. With one option you'll lose your dignity and the other option you'll lose your money. I guess you can pick which is more important."

its more trying to keep as much geographical and cultural based conferences as possible, WVU is definitely more southern than Texas and Ok

9/18/2011 9:10:30 PM

I'm not so sure about more southern than Texas. More redneck-backwards-ass-hillybilly, definitely, but that doesn't necessarily equal southern.

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 9:13 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2011 9:13:16 PM

I'd go to a Tenn-WVU game just to watch the fans.

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 9:15 PM. Reason : ]

9/18/2011 9:14:33 PM

well, eastern southern then... I realize that Arizona is "southern" too, as is LA and San Diego

9/18/2011 9:18:21 PM

texas is true southern southern though. just because austin is liberal doesn't mean texas isn't southern.

9/18/2011 9:24:13 PM

I dont know, thats Cowboy southern, steers and queers

9/18/2011 9:27:18 PM

Right, and meanwhile this is a WVU fan:

9/18/2011 9:27:37 PM

Texas is just Texas..

9/18/2011 9:29:34 PM

^ exactly

^^ as long as they are rowdy and support their team and arent little bitches I couldn't give a shit what they look like

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 9:35 PM. Reason : d]

9/18/2011 9:32:16 PM

I wonder what drove his decision to get rid of his sideburns

9/18/2011 9:35:05 PM

probably had a job interview

9/18/2011 9:38:13 PM

i feel like when you say "cultural" and "southern", everyone should know what that means.

9/18/2011 9:38:32 PM

no gaddumn yankees, is what that means.

9/18/2011 9:39:28 PM

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"and gives you competition at the middle of the pack in football. "

the only team syracuse is giving competition to in football is duke (and maybe BC)

9/18/2011 10:20:54 PM

well they beat wake forest three weeks ago, so they might give wake forest some competition.

and that wake forest team beat us two weeks ago, so.

9/18/2011 10:24:00 PM

Apparently WVU has applied to the SEC, not shocking.

9/18/2011 10:28:52 PM

Liberty gave us competition this year, so I think Syracuse will be fine, as much as I hate to say it.

9/18/2011 10:35:55 PM

no problem with pitt, uconn, or cuse but fuck this rutgers shit

9/18/2011 11:26:59 PM

sounds like Texas is still trying to make something work w/ACC

9/18/2011 11:27:56 PM

any team is competition for us in football or basketball. don't kid yourselves.

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 11:53 PM. Reason : of the teams in the conversation]

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 11:53 PM. Reason : then again ecu beats us in both]

9/18/2011 11:53:03 PM

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"I think the funniest part of this thread is the Elitist attitude of NC State fans are taking to memberships of the ACC. The additions of Pitt and Syracuse drops you down two spots in the ACC in basketball and gives you competition at the middle of the pack in football. I guess you get more wins in baseball?"

We beat Syracuse both games when Donovan McNabb was there and they were at their peak under Pasqualoni with MOC. Also we won at Syracuse in basketball Julius's freshman year IIRC. Don't get butthurt because ECU's reputation is so bad they can't sniff a real conference.

9/18/2011 11:56:42 PM

you know, i didn't want texas, but now i do. texas means invincibility as a conference as long as they can't afford to leave. if we can somehow get texas to sign a contract that forbids them to leave, i'm all for it.

i don't want to give texas the conference, but i'd rather do that than add rutgers. i'd also rather add LOUISVILLE than rutgers, btw. why would anyone prefer rutgers?

9/18/2011 11:57:55 PM

I would sell the ACC's soul for Texas

Not that the ACC has a soul now anyway

9/19/2011 12:01:27 AM

so can we get some of the big east basketball refs now?

9/19/2011 12:04:33 AM

I think its like $20 mil for a team to leave the ACC.

9/19/2011 12:05:15 AM