BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
someone should put together a pic that says CAROLINA WAY with pics of marvin austin, Julius Nyang’oro, buch davis, ho hansborough, kupec,etc 9/11/2012 1:40:34 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I didn’t find out about [Hansbrough] being hired by dentistry until after she was on the job,” says Thorp. “That wouldn’t be unusual because we have hundreds of development officers, and I wouldn’t normally be told that one that works on in the units was being hired."" |
They just don't get it. They (coaches and administrators) don't need to know about every student and employee. They do need to know about a select few student athletes and any family of said athletes being hired by the University.
Quote : | "how has holden thorp not resigned yet? the balls on this guy, i'll tell you" |
Its all part of the plan. Thorp rose to the top directly through the areas under investigation. He knows everything that went on and is in full damage control. If the ax falls, he becomes the rogue chancellor scapegoat and enjoys a nice pension of hush money from the NC taxpayers.
[Edited on September 11, 2012 at 2:03 PM. Reason : .]9/11/2012 1:54:30 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Lawyers: UNC player not complicit in academic fraud
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/story/11531380/
Quote : | "In their latest filing, on filed Sept. 7, McAdoo's lawyers offered five documents from UNC's own investigation as evidence that McAdoo "did not knowingly or willfully obtain improper assistance."
"By UNC's own admission, there are were serious irregularities in the way in which the course in question was conducted," McAdoo's lawyers wrote. They use the university's internal investigations into the AFAM department and a report on irregularities in the Academic Support Program for Student Athletes to demonstrate that UNC had doubts about the integrity of the class in which McAdoo allegedly cheated.
They argue that the court didn't have all the information necessary before it dismissed McAdoo's case. His lawyers wrote:
Mr. McAdoo contends that, if his claims are allowed to proceed to discovery and trial, th evidence will show that he followed the instructions of his tutor and academic advisor in preparing the paper he submitted in his Swahili 403 class, and that prior to its submission the paper was reviewed and approved by both the academic advisor and the tutor, who were at all relevant times employees of UNC and under the ultimate supervision of Chancellor Thorp" |
9/11/2012 2:13:29 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
the lunatic fringe working the national media.
Quote : | "Dan Wolken ?@DanWolken As @statefansnation points out, UNC hires an NBA prospect's mom. That prospect happens to come back his Sr year. That is pretty brazen." |
9/11/2012 2:21:14 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
even though nothing will come of this, i still find it entertaining 9/11/2012 2:29:00 PM |
CapnObvious All American 5057 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""By UNC's own admission, there are were serious irregularities in the way in which the course in question was conducted," McAdoo's lawyers wrote. They use the university's internal investigations into the AFAM department and a report on irregularities in the Academic Support Program for Student Athletes to demonstrate that UNC had doubts about the integrity of the class in which McAdoo allegedly cheated. " |
So cheating in a fake class makes it better?9/11/2012 2:30:53 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
A player can't be complicit in cheating if he doesn't even know someone is doing his school work 9/11/2012 2:39:41 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
They're trying to say, "UNC led McAdoo through the process of cheating in a way that made him think he was doing everything kosher. Therefore, it's not his fault." 9/11/2012 2:40:14 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
which might be a valid legal claim. I mean, if the dude is so stupid that he doesn't know he's cheating, can you really say that he's cheating? Then again, at the end of the day, the NCAA can do whatever the hell it wants, so McAdon't really doesn't have any case anyway
[Edited on September 11, 2012 at 2:47 PM. Reason : ] 9/11/2012 2:47:10 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
basically they are saying that McAdoo is so fucking retarded and stupid that he didnt know the difference. apparently the guy operates on a 5th grade intelligence level. 9/11/2012 2:48:55 PM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
they should be punished for allowing him into college 9/11/2012 2:54:18 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/weiss/2012/09/north-carolina-has-another-athletic-mess-on-its-hands-this-one-involving-tyler-hansbro 9/11/2012 3:17:14 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Good point on the radio, Carolina is saying travelling with the team was part of work capacity because fans go to games too, but if she stopped travelling with the team after her son graduated then even having the paperwork its harder to justify that as a University related task and it could potentially be an impermissible benefit. 9/11/2012 3:18:19 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Wasn't she using university money to go see her other son play for notre dame? 9/11/2012 3:20:59 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^Thats an issue but harder to tie to NCAA, then its just fraud and illegal 9/11/2012 3:22:47 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Curious. The 216 numbers were supposed to be released in 30 days. Isn't that time period up this week?
[Edited on September 11, 2012 at 3:24 PM. Reason : .] 9/11/2012 3:23:11 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, it would be interesting to see if she stopped going to basketball games after Tyler left 9/11/2012 3:23:53 PM |
Moox All American 612 Posts user info edit post |
216 30 day mark is the 20th. Next Thursday. 9/11/2012 3:32:50 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "For he so loved UNC, he refused to give up his phone records" |
-Butch 2:169/11/2012 4:18:32 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Token press coverage from ESPN...
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8367091/north-carolina-tar-heels-vice-chancellor-matt-kupec-quits-travel-scandal 9/11/2012 5:28:52 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Add me to the list of people that think that nothing will come off of the recent UNC or Duke scandals. The NCAA is a deregulated entity that will move according to what fits their own personal interest, which in this case would be not to punish their main cash cows. 9/11/2012 7:35:22 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
i dunno what will come of all this new stuff, but Penn State was a pretty big college football brand, and the NCAA had the option to leave it up to the authorities and not intervene, but they chose to give them the pseudo-death penalty, so i'm not giving up on this yet 9/11/2012 7:40:41 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
That's why the NCAA won't do anything to dook or unc-ch.
"we've already destroyed a big time historical program recently. We're going to sit this one out." 9/11/2012 8:09:50 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure it has already been said but it's going to funny and aggravating at the same time when UNC fans complain about the Duke thing being swept under the rug. 9/11/2012 8:15:08 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
9/11/2012 8:17:36 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
^lol, my favorite part in the 2nd pic is Thorpe in that stupid car 9/11/2012 8:28:15 PM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
This scandal is getting to the point where diagrams are needed to keep track of all the areas they've cheated in
[Edited on September 11, 2012 at 8:48 PM. Reason : TWO PRONG] 9/11/2012 8:47:47 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I've kinda given up on trying to keep the details staight 9/11/2012 8:53:21 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
It would look like the timeline for Primer
9/11/2012 8:54:08 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Those lunatics on PP really are tenacious. They were looking for connections between Tami's gift position and the philanthropy group that was located in DC next to Big Marv's mama. 9/11/2012 8:54:26 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I hope the dook scandal brings out the best tar hole investigation team and we start seeing multiple prongs. 9/11/2012 8:58:54 PM |
fart king Veteran 125 Posts user info edit post |
9/11/2012 9:43:13 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Wait, there's a Duke scandal?
What did they do? 9/11/2012 9:56:14 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Kupec created Whoresbrough's position and his department funded it. So now we have employment fraud.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/09/11/2334880/uncs-kupec-worked-to-establish.html#storylink=cpy 9/11/2012 10:12:48 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
Monday:
Quote : | "I didn’t find out about [Hansbrough] being hired by dentistry until after she was on the job,” says Thorp" |
Tuesday:
Quote : | "The job for Hansbrough, who is the mother of former UNC basketball star Tyler Hansbrough, is listed on organizational charts as being part of Crisp’s office – an arrangement approved by Crisp and UNC-CH Chancellor Holden Thorp" |
IC is going to implode if it hasn't already. If this blatant lie by the Chancellor of the university doesn't convince the NCAA to do something then nothing will.
[Edited on September 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM. Reason : .]9/11/2012 10:18:20 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " but he said that she had performed well in the position." |
Phrasing!9/11/2012 10:26:42 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
honestly this is just absolute hubris.
no other way to describe it. just blatant blatant disregard for any set of rules in every direction that you look, all the while being surprised that anyone cares. and i do think that they're genuinely surprised. 9/11/2012 10:28:34 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, the N&O not holding any punches against Tami Hansbrough. Nepotism, seduction, infidelity, broken marriages, fraud... holy shit, this is a soap opera. 9/11/2012 10:30:03 PM |
wawebste All American 19599 Posts user info edit post |
From joeovies Twitter:
Quote : | "Just wait until TWW photoshops the "Valetine's Day" movie poster." |
somebody needs to get on this9/11/2012 10:30:52 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
looks like we can add "rogue chancellor" to the list of rogues at UNCCH...
Quote : | "Four weeks ago, The News & Observer began seeking records related to the travel, but the university has not yet provided the records." |
One word: FERPA
[Edited on September 11, 2012 at 10:34 PM. Reason : ]9/11/2012 10:31:10 PM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "UNC: Taxpayers won't pay for academic consultants The Associated Press Published: Tuesday, Sep. 11, 2012 - 4:48 pm
CHAPEL HILL, N.C. -- Consultants called in after discoveries of academic fraud at North Carolina's flagship public university say they're giving the school a 20 percent discount on hourly fees.
Documents released by the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill on Tuesday show Washington-area consulting firm Baker Tilley will bill a discounted hourly rate of up to $440 an hour. That's for helping former North Carolina Gov. Jim Martin look for academic irregularities after one department popular with athletes found instructors who didn't teach, grades that were changed and faculty signatures faked on grade reports.
Baker Tilly also is doing a review of the school's academic policies that the consultants estimate will cost the school between $70,000 to $90,000 plus expenses.
The university says state taxpayers won't pay for the consultants' work.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/09/11/4810494/unc-taxpayers-wont-pay-for-academic.html#storylink=cpy" |
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/09/11/4810494/unc-taxpayers-wont-pay-for-academic.html
Glad to see we won't be responsible for paying for the admins at THE FLAGSHIP to learn how to run a University.9/12/2012 3:27:48 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
^ I am sure there are some folks on PP that would do it for free. 9/12/2012 7:51:46 AM |
dalecooter All American 524 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " 459 Posts user info edit post
Monday: Quote : "I didn’t find out about [Hansbrough] being hired by dentistry until after she was on the job,” says Thorp"
Tuesday: Quote : "The job for Hansbrough, who is the mother of former UNC basketball star Tyler Hansbrough, is listed on organizational charts as being part of Crisp’s office – an arrangement approved by Crisp and UNC-CH Chancellor Holden Thorp"
IC is going to implode if it hasn't already. If this blatant lie by the Chancellor of the university doesn't convince the NCAA to do something then nothing will." |
I don't think he was lying here. The original hiring was in the dentistry school and Thorp claims no prior knowledge of. The second job where she got in trouble he did approve of after telling Kupec he could not hire her directly. Still shady but let's not push for Thorp's ouster he's been an absolute pleasantry running this ship into the ground.9/12/2012 9:47:51 AM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
Rumors swirling around UNC campus today that Holden might resign today
Source: water cooler talk (still more credible then some other websites) 9/12/2012 12:37:20 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Hes too busy at the ND press conference
*some dumbass heard Holden and press conference and jumped the gun.
[Edited on September 12, 2012 at 12:55 PM. Reason : .] 9/12/2012 12:53:18 PM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
good use of ND as cover if he does
[Edited on September 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM. Reason : ] 9/12/2012 2:15:24 PM |
fart king Veteran 125 Posts user info edit post |
9/12/2012 4:53:56 PM |
fart king Veteran 125 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM. Reason : ]
9/12/2012 5:00:43 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ACC Sports ?@ACCSports RT @InsideCarolina: UNC news release: Tami Hansbrough has resigned from her job as major gifts officer at #UNC, effective immediately." |
On the day ND joins the conference or course.9/12/2012 5:06:57 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
fart king is in my top five of tww user names 9/12/2012 5:17:44 PM |