The appstore is already giving problems updating apps, so I imagine it's going to be real bad at 1.

[Edited on September 18, 2013 at 12:48 PM. Reason : hello 246]

9/18/2013 12:48:20 PM

Downloading to my phone now.

9/18/2013 12:58:54 PM

I'm on a fairly tenuous but usable wifi connection and it's downloading VERY slowly to my phone. my iPad keeps getting an error.

9/18/2013 1:49:05 PM

error downloading 11.1 of itunes in the app store as well

yeah. iphone, macbook air, and ipad are all right next to each other and the iphone 5 is the only stable update going at the moment. still 2 hours away according to the progress indicator

[Edited on September 18, 2013 at 2:05 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2013 1:57:27 PM

gonna be hit or miss until the servers cool down. they're getting hammered as expected. saw a forum user post a link from akamai that global internet traffic is up 92% today.

took quite a few tries to get things rolling but my 4S is nearly done with "Preparing Update..."

9/18/2013 2:07:44 PM

oh definitely.

i think the ipad is finally dl'ing securely.

and 11.1 is coming through after about 20 minutes of repeated errors.

9/18/2013 2:18:20 PM

Got it working on my iPhone 5. Started downloading pretty soon after it was available and it was slow but worked fine.

9/18/2013 2:35:52 PM

I downloaded it right at 1 on my iPhone 5. It took about 40 minutes to get it installed & everything. The download itself took 9 minutes. It's working fine & I like it so far.

9/18/2013 3:12:53 PM

i really like ios 7 so far. pretty slick!!

9/18/2013 3:28:56 PM

i can't wait for a big screen iPhone

9/18/2013 3:29:34 PM

anyone else's iPad really having trouble with this update? mine finally downloaded but it keeps telling me "Software Update Unavailable" when it tries to install, and verify the update. mine's a retina display.

i guess the servers are also slammed with verification requests as well...

[Edited on September 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2013 4:10:41 PM

I hate the way the new sounds actually sound. Battery life so far has been absolute crap, but is slightly better after a reboot. I also don't really like the reduced font size on the status bar at the top (clock, battery, etc.).

Other than that, it's not terrible because it's more Androidy.

9/18/2013 4:11:08 PM

^^getting that on my iphone now. ill keep trying. im currently doing an ipad as well.

9/18/2013 4:49:33 PM

I've seen that error pop up on a few phones around here (including my own). I had to kill the settings app a few times to get it to take off. I'm guessing the servers are so busy that the phone can't reach it for validation?

9/18/2013 4:55:17 PM

seems to be the case. I finally got it through after about an hour of trying to authenticate.

9/18/2013 6:14:31 PM

waited until around 10pm EST to update. the Download said it would take around 30 minutes. I watched an hour of TV and came back to find everything ready to go.

so far i'm enjoying the new OS

9/19/2013 8:33:50 AM

Seriously Apple? You completely removed the ability to listen to podcasts from the music app?

My only choices are now to download another one of your dedicated apps (Podcasts) which I hear nothing but garbage about, or pay money to buy an app?

They completely removed the "podcasts" genre from the music app, so currently I have no way to access my podcasts on my phone.

9/19/2013 9:14:27 AM

I've never had a problem with the podcasts app. Maybe I'm not using it the same way other people do...? I just add the ones I like & listen to them.

Why is the keyboard & stuff in the facebook app not the new ios 7 keyboard? Is this bc facebook needs to update their stuff, or is something wrong with my phone?

9/19/2013 10:00:23 AM

^ I've heard that apps have to update to allow use of the new keyboard.

9/19/2013 10:01:52 AM

They've improved the Podcasts app significantly in the last few updates. It's still not perfect, but it's worlds better than it used to be. It can actually function independently of iTunes now, which it used to not be able to do when it was embedded in Music.

Give it a shot. My only beef with it still is that when it looks for new podcasts, it still tries to re-insert episodes I've already previously listened to. Not sure why it can't manage that better, but perhaps it's addressed in 7. Haven't tried it out yet.

9/19/2013 10:26:22 AM

holy shit - ios7 supports multipath TCP?! that's a feature cool enough for me to post in this thread.

9/19/2013 11:39:59 AM

I kinda like a lot of the things except the display.. It's like a fake kinda cartoon-ey feel. Not a big fan

9/19/2013 6:13:14 PM

is the contract free t-mobile phone they're selling unlocked? Will it work on straight talk

9/19/2013 8:45:09 PM

ugh. Who ever approved the new scheme should be fired and hung by their balls. This is F U G L Y.

9/19/2013 10:12:03 PM

picked up a 32GB black 5s this AM from verizon. Felt like an asshole standing out there (there were decent lines at both VZW and ATT (Apple store line was about 200 people, ours were about 50).

pretty much no gold variation except in major markets from what i read/inferred, and then only in limited supply to keep up a false demand.

only reason i went is because i had sold my 5 earlier this week for $500 and the one from apple wasnt going to arrive until next Friday at the earliest. i was out the door with it after about an hour and a half of line standing and actually processing my sale.

9/20/2013 1:11:41 PM

amazing. a usps employee apparently stole my old phone 5 out of the package I mailed it in to my buyer. The buyer got an empty iphone box, and because i hadn't deactivated the phone prior to sending, because I was goign to pick up the 5s today but Amazon wanted it shipped by Tuesday, I have a log of about 30 calls made roughly coinciding with when it arrived at my local USPS sort facility, all to local numbers in the surrounding area. what a moron. i filed an insurance claim via the amazon merchant insurance provider, and also filed a report with the postal inspectors. There was no data on the phone, but the SIM was still tied to my number until I got my 5s or the buyer took it to amazon and had his account authorized on it.

buyer was super understanding about it. is going to dispute charges for the time being, and i told him once the claim is processed (he has to supply an affidavit), ill just refund his money and be made whole by the insurance (actually came out better because i offload the phone and amazon doesnt end up with their cut)

[Edited on September 20, 2013 at 2:53 PM. Reason : .]

9/20/2013 2:50:49 PM

So can iOS7 not be used with Straight Talk? It seems like the APN settings cannot be changed

9/20/2013 8:59:20 PM

I've been using iPhone 5 with ios7 on net10 att sim for several days now. I haven't had any issues.

9/22/2013 11:01:02 PM

using it on straight talk...works for me

9/23/2013 9:46:26 AM

Does straight talk have 4G or LTE?

9/23/2013 10:57:25 AM

two things.


1. iOS7 is the Wind Waker of iPhone OS.

2. to me it seems like the microphone fails a lot more often to me

9/23/2013 11:47:44 AM

Bahahahahaha wtf?

1) Take pic of fingerprint left on glass
2) Create fake finger
3) ....
4) Profit!

Apple fingerprint ID hacked
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24203929

9/23/2013 4:39:46 PM

Steps are a little more complicated than that...

Quote :

"First, the fingerprint of the enroled user is photographed with 2400 dpi resolution. The resulting image is then cleaned up, inverted and laser printed with 1200 dpi onto transparent sheet with a thick toner setting. Finally, pink latex milk or white woodglue is smeared into the pattern created by the toner onto the transparent sheet. After it cures, the thin latex sheet is lifted from the sheet, breathed on to make it a tiny bit moist and then placed onto the sensor to unlock the phone. This process has been used with minor refinements and variations against the vast majority of fingerprint sensors on the market."

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/22/chaos-computer-club-bypasses-apples-touch-id-system/

It'd probably be easier to just take a video of someone typing in their passcode (or drawing their passcode pattern a la android). So I'd rather have the fingerprint lock myself.

[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 4:54 PM. Reason : ]

9/23/2013 4:54:08 PM

My 5S is coming wednesday.

I just backed up my iPhone to itunes. What all is included in the backup? When I load my backup onto my new iphone, will it automatically put the apps on there as well?

How do I backup and restore the apps?

9/23/2013 4:58:26 PM

People still in line at Crabtree

9/23/2013 5:05:43 PM

Quote :

"Apple fingerprint ID hacked"

Not really. Unsurprisingly, news outlets are using these sorts of headlines in order to capture as much attention and clicks as possible, but this is nothing new. You can pretty much so defeat all fingerprint scanners with this technique. There's nothing about this that is a hack at all because the fingerprint data still has to be retrieved from somewhere else. 'Touch ID tricked by someone creating an exact replica of your fingerprint' would be a more accurate title, but that doesn't sound as scandalous. Until someone can actually pull your fingerprint data from the phone itself, there's nothing hacking related about this.

I see this as along the same lines as a bunch of stories saying how the door locks on a particular brand of new cars can be "hacked" by putting a brick through the window.

9/23/2013 5:20:02 PM

Mythbusters did it

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/mythbusters-database/fingerprint-scanners-unbeatable.htm

9/23/2013 5:23:53 PM

I assume the same line shananigans do not apply to the 5c?

9/23/2013 11:07:50 PM

same line shananigans?

9/23/2013 11:16:06 PM

sorry, as in, there's people lined up... I assume just for the 5s correct? There shouldnt be a massive line for the 5c or it's not sold out or some such correct?

9/24/2013 2:01:05 PM

Everything I've read says that the 5s outsold the 5c by a pretty substantial margin this weekend, and it was the one that was supposed to be in short supply, so I'd image the 5c is fairly readily available. You can always order online and have it set to in-store pickup just to make sure what you want is available though.

9/24/2013 3:10:28 PM

5 minutes into playing around with the 5s and I'm already pissed off

There is a pretty significant latency when pressing the home button...almost twice as long as on the 4s that I'm comparing it to side by side.

After looking online for an answer I see that people in the ios7 beta were having this issue but able to solve by turning off the triple click accessibility shortcut.

Problem: There doesn't seem to be a way to turn the triple click off on the 5s, which is awesome because who the fuck ever uses the stupid shit tied to triple click anyways

9/24/2013 9:44:46 PM

Did you update to 7.0.1 yet? I know that fixes a couple of 5S specific issues that were found, but I haven't heard anything about that one in particular. Wouldn't hurt to try it if you haven't already though.

9/24/2013 9:50:54 PM

Yup I've updated

9/24/2013 9:59:51 PM

Oops...

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/wireStory/apple-app-directs-drivers-alaska-airport-runway-20375309

Quote :

"A glitch in the Apple Maps app on newer iPhones and iPads guides people up to a runway at a major Alaska airport instead of sending them on the proper route to the terminal, an airport official said Wednesday. The map actually stops at the tarmac, but twice this month, wayward drivers have continued across an active runway. "It doesn't actually tell you to cross, but the problem is, people see the terminal then at that point, because they are right there, and they just continue across," said Fairbanks International Airport spokeswoman Angie Spear."

So much truth in this statement:

Quote :

""...people simply trusted their device more than they trusted what they were seeing," she said."

And that's not likely to ever change.

9/26/2013 9:38:10 AM

Quote :

"Make Messages Display a Person's Full Name By default, Messages no longer shows a contact's full name. This is great when you have friends with obnoxiously long and very specific names, but chances are you know a few people with the same name. This can cause confusion. So, to reenable the last name display in Messages, head to Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars. Tap the "Short Name" option under "Contact" and change it to whichever selection you prefer."

So many changes to basic functionality that there really should have been a step by step walk through of options for upgrades to ask questions on how some things should be handled

[Edited on September 26, 2013 at 10:40 AM. Reason : M]

9/26/2013 10:38:27 AM

My biggest problem with the 5s/ios7 is that they seem to have spent the last year "fixing" things that either nobody cared about or didn't need to be fixed, while largely ignoring the things people actually wanted. I would have been happier with the new phone if they had simply upgraded the speed, camera, and battery. The only change to the ios that I really appreciate so far is the control center (this is just for me, mind you...there are clearly some other additions that people like, and I can appreciate that). But it seems, as mentioned above, they changed so many little things that didn't need changing. In the notification center I used to be able to quickly see the temperature and weather condition displayed simply. Now it's a sentence I have to read.

A quintessential example of this was the "reveal" of the fingerprint scanner. I think the first thing they mentioned was something along the lines of, "our research shows that 60% of iPhone users don't have a password on their phone", which of course they took to mean that was a problem they needed to fix. It takes 12 seconds to set the password, you know what those statistics say to me? 60% of people don't care about their phone security and would rather you spend your time fixing something else.

9/26/2013 11:53:00 AM

Eh, I don't know if I agree with that. I don't have a pass code on my phone because I don't want to have to spend the extra few seconds to put it in dozens or even hundreds of times a day. Plus they're not really all that secure unless you make sure to hide your phone with one hand while putting in the code with the other. I've been able to see the passcode of practically everyone I've ever seen unlock their phone just because they never make an effort to hide it, which sort of defeats the point, IMO. With the fingerprint scanner, it's actually quicker to unlock your phone that way than slide to unlock on a phone without a code.

I sorta see this feature as something that people didn't even know about, so they wouldn't have thought to want it, but once they start using it, it will become "necessity" from here on out.

9/26/2013 12:06:21 PM

Certainly there are people like you, no doubt (though did you know that you could previously set the password to only take effect if your phone has been off for 5 minutes? So that way if you put it down and picked it right back up again you wouldn't have to put the password in..takes away the 100 times point at least...but you can no longer set it this way in the new phone, at least I can't find it)

I don't necessarily care about the fact that they put it in, and it might be something that becomes important, but I could have named 5 things I'd rather have without hesitation

Also as a side note, and something I'm sure they'll fix, I can't figure out how to turn the fingerprint scanner on but keep the password off. As far as I can see, if I turn on the fingerprint scanner the password comes on too \/ On mine when I turn on the fingerprint scanner, then use it, the passcode immediately comes on, not after 3 failed attempts...probably a settings thing, but not one I really care about because I'm not concerned with my phone's security anyways, I'm fine having it off

[Edited on September 26, 2013 at 12:22 PM. Reason : \/]

9/26/2013 12:12:48 PM

^^exactly.

The problem with the pin code or shapeswipes to unlock is that they were so easily defeatable and a pain to enter many times a day. I had my phone hooked into corporate email so it was required that I at least set a 4 digit pin. It wasn't a huge deal to have to enter the pin but now with the fingerprint reader being so flawless its a huge advancement.

^the passcode is a fallback if the fingerprint scanner fails after three tries, so it will always be required to be on if touchid is on. also the passcode is required instead of fingerprint if the phone is rebooted. Also, my corporate security policy enforce 1 minute lock and instant lockout

i have very few problems with iOS7. minor annoyances and really they are just associated with the upgrade process from 6 to 7. it was such a big break and some of the defaults chosen just didn't make sense for the new features introduced. For instance the item i posted above. Why did apple choose to completely change how contacts were shown in iMessage, its a big change especially for those with big contact lists, and then the options are nested 2 levels deep. A simple question during startup would have helped (or setting the default to show full name). And, why did they implement the feature without fully fleshing it out, make it smart shorten names. So if i just have one contact named John, it shortens them but if I have more than 1 John in my contact list then it doesn't shorten any.

Minor annoyances, very happy overall.


[Edited on September 26, 2013 at 12:22 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2013 12:17:27 PM