machina wasn't written with a drum machine.

7/1/2007 8:58:36 AM

Quote :

"there were twelve teases tonight, including a "White Rabbit" tease during HMM that I can only assume is the similar to the one from Friday night."

and the audience all singing along to day tripper made billy smile

AMAZING show...i took nothing but video clips, but unfortunately i think i deleted one with the all the teases in the 2nd set by accident we'll see when i download em later

when we first got into asheville we road by the peel to get a feel of the line situation before grabbing lunch, and as we turn the corner to ride behind it there's billy hanging out on the back entrance stairwell...my bf was all "holy shit!...play it cool" hahahaha i wish i had my camera so we could've snapped a shot, but we "played it cool" and just rode by grinning like a bunch of idiots

oh and i liked the drum circle...it could've been better, but i was booty shakin

[Edited on July 1, 2007 at 9:21 AM. Reason : ]

7/1/2007 9:18:54 AM

ill give a review later but last night was definitely the better of the last 2 nights by far, the band was more into it, the setlist was great (he really stuck to like 3 acoustic songs), they came out rockin and never really stopped...

they did all the teases because the guys at the soundboard were having issues. we were leaning against the rail there and they were flipping a shit trying to figure out.

i did manage to get the setlist from the soundboard guy. i will post it later...the one that they were SUPPOSED to play, they skipped atleast 3 songs because of the tech problems (thirty-three, doomsday clock, and muzzle to name a few).

the drum circle from the town square replaced deerhunter last night apparently because billy had an issue with them or something, not really any details except what we were told...they showed up at 4pm to set up again, etc or whatever and billy was like go home.

overall, it was really good last night

[Edited on July 1, 2007 at 10:29 AM. Reason : yea]

7/1/2007 10:24:52 AM

2007/06/23 - Orange Peel; Asheville, NC, US
The Smashing Pumpkins


Set:

* United States
* Doomsday Clock
* Bleeding the Orchid
* Today
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* Glass and the Ghost Children
* Home
* Hummer
* Lucky 13
* Come On (Let's Go)
* Blue Skies Bring Tears
* For God and Country
* Daydream
* Rocket
* 1979
* (unknown: "It's a Song I Sing")
* Translucent
* Starla
* Tonight, Tonight
* Tarantula
* Starz
* Zero
* Disarm
* Gossamer

Encore 1:

* Shame
* Silverfuck

Encore 2:

* With Every Light


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2007/06/24 - Orange Peel; Asheville, NC, US
The Smashing Pumpkins


Set 1:

* Zero
* Stand Inside Your Love
* Today
* Starz
* Tarantula
* Hummer
* Home
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* United States
* Neverlost
* Blue Skies Bring Tears

Set 2:

* To Sheila
* The Crying Tree of Mercury
* Thirty-three
* I Don't Mind
* (unknown: "It's a Song I Sing")
* Tonight, Tonight
* Cherub Rock
* Lucky 13
* Doomsday Clock
* Come On (Let's Go)
* 1979
* Untitled

Encore 1:

* Muzzle
* Machine Gun [Hendrix] (tease)
> Silverfuck

Encore 2:

* Gossamer


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2007/06/26 - Orange Peel; Asheville, NC, US
The Smashing Pumpkins


Set 1:

* ?
* Ma Belle
* In My Body
* Glass and the Ghost Children
* Blue Skies Bring Tears
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* Tarantula
* Starz
* Drown
* Hummer
* Stand Inside Your Love
* United States

Set 2:

* Gossamer
* Tonight, Tonight
* Untitled
* Lucky 13
* Come On (Let's Go)
* Starla
* I Don't Mind
* The Crying Tree of Mercury
* Rocket
* Annie-Dog
* 7 Shades of Black
* Doomsday Clock
* Disarm
* Muzzle

Encore 1:

* Zero
* Today

Encore 2:

* By Starlight (tease)
> Silverfuck


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2007/06/29 - Orange Peel; Asheville, NC, US
The Smashing Pumpkins


Set 1:

* United States
* Doomsday Clock
* Bleeding the Orchid
* Neverlost
* Hummer
* The Aeroplane Flies High
* Home
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* Tarantula
* Glass and the Ghost Children
* Blue Skies Bring Tears

Set 2:

* (unknown: "If All Goes Wrong")
* (unknown: "Mama")
* With Every Light
* Translucent
* Starla
* Fuck You
* Stand Inside Your Love
* In My Body
* Lucky 13
* Heavy Metal Machine
* Winterlong
* The Crying Tree of Mercury
* Rocket
* Tonight, Tonight
* Cherub Rock
* Zero
* Disarm

Encore:

* (unknown: "Question Mark")
* Untitled


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2007/06/30 - Orange Peel; Asheville, NC, US
The Smashing Pumpkins


Set 1:

* Today
* Stand Inside Your Love
* 1979
* United States
* (Come On) Let's Go!
* Starla
* In My Body
* Hummer
* Kashmir [Led Zeppelin] (tease)
> Silverfuck
* Blue Skies Bring Tears
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings

Set 2:

* (new song: "If Only in a Dream")
* To Sheila
* (new song: "Mama")
* Cherub Rock (tease)
* The Everlasting Gaze (tease)
* Ava Adore (tease)
* Over the Hills and Far Away [Led Zeppelin] (tease)
* Day Tripper [Beatles] (tease)
* Sweet Leaf [Black Sabbath] (tease)
* We Will Rock You [Queen] (tease)
* Misty Mountain Hop [Led Zeppelin] (tease)
* Smoke on the Water [Deep Purple] (tease)
* Rock On [Essex] (tease)
* Zero
* Starz
* Fuck You
* Tarantula
* Tonight, Tonight
* Drown
* Heavy Metal Machine
> White Rabbit [Jefferson Airplane] (tease)

Encore 1:

* Cherub Rock
* Untitled

Encore 2:

* Gossamer

7/1/2007 10:28:06 AM

awesome show!! the drum circle was ok, i liked the story behind it more than themusic itself, that was really cool for them and the rowd was into it.

7/1/2007 11:32:03 AM

What was the story behind it, if you don't mind sharing? Did it have anything to do with the giant drum circle that Asheville has downtown every Friday afternoon or something unrelated?

7/1/2007 12:26:59 PM

here's a few pics i took from last night...





bullet with butterfly wings!

7/1/2007 2:26:23 PM

Zeitgeist is a funny album.

Am I the only one who finds "Pomp and Circumstances" extremely out of place?

7/1/2007 2:27:35 PM

ok i get the meaning of the drum circle thing now

and yeah pomp and circumstances is kinda out of place lol

overall though i really like the album. obviously i haven't heard any of the bonus tracks yet, but just from the standard album i think i'd rank it at #3 for them behind mellon collie and siamese dream. i like it a lot.

also i really like the song he wrote in asheville, "it's a song i sing" i think is the name.

7/1/2007 3:26:07 PM

Quote :

"Did it have anything to do with the giant drum circle that Asheville has downtown every Friday afternoon"

Yeah, that's exactly what it was.

7/1/2007 5:14:16 PM

just got back from one of the greatest weekends of my life

im still on a high from the awesomeness that was this weekend so i'll keep it short and sweet for now

friday night: really good (the acoustic songs were fine with me, i just dont like when he chose to play them)

saturday night: fucking amazing. even with the technical difficulties it was one of the best shows i've ever been to

so many awesome side stories to tell about the weekend/shows

i'll save those for later

[Edited on July 1, 2007 at 6:35 PM. Reason : woooo]

7/1/2007 6:35:15 PM

right on

7/1/2007 6:37:04 PM

man, i did a quick listen, i like the live versions of these songs better...it feels overproduced when comparing them to the live recordings

7/1/2007 7:06:49 PM

Okay, I like Zeitgeist so far, but

Ginger & Lisa > Chorus of Billys

7/1/2007 7:12:59 PM

oh yeah, christian laettner was there both friday and saturday night

7/1/2007 7:52:03 PM

7/1/2007 7:59:14 PM

^ oh snap

7/1/2007 8:37:34 PM

the crowd around me, including myself, was getting really bored, almost antagonistic, with the drum circle about 20 minutes in. i'm still pissed that billy kicked deerhunter out or whatever.

7/1/2007 8:50:55 PM

oh yeah, i also didnt know john cusack was such a good guitarist

(im going to keep posting these little tidbits until i calm down from this weekends festivities.)

7/1/2007 8:53:18 PM

^^I'd pay good money to see a Corgan/Cox fight, though. I wonder how they managed to piss him off, unless it was just the number of people in the crowd on Friday who didn't like Deerhunter (the comments of the girl behind me ranged from "omg, he's so creepy!" to "well they have no musical talent whatsoever!").

7/1/2007 8:55:21 PM

at the very least--when every song sounds the same, billy shouldn't have let the drum circle play for an entire hour.

7/1/2007 8:56:54 PM

I don't really like Deerhunter anyway, so I didn't care about not seeing them. And the idea of actually having the drum circle open after Billy talked about it on Wednesday was funny. That said, I agree that they didn't need to play for an hour.

Quote :

"I'd pay good money to see a Corgan/Cox fight, though."

Hahaha, yes.

7/1/2007 9:10:31 PM

welp...the sound quality is pretty much shit in all my videos, except the teasers--yay!! but there's a lot of embarrassing "wooo's" and "yeaaaahs!!" so ahhh...

7/1/2007 9:16:55 PM

aww, somebody posted the "rap is dead" thing
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gWjCwGxXLQ0

hahahahaha, you can hear vinylbandit yell "Please Play Rhinoceros!"at 0:40 in this one:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wGTpjO0WASE

7/1/2007 9:51:58 PM

Hahaha, I'm afraid to ever hear/see any recordings from the show, for fear of hearing myself.

7/1/2007 9:55:50 PM

Quote :

"man, i did a quick listen, i like the live versions of these songs better...it feels overproduced when comparing them to the live recordings"

yea i do feel that the record is a bit overproduced, glad to know im not the only one. i definitely have to listen to it a lot more tho to let it sink in.

hope everyones been having fun

7/1/2007 10:02:28 PM

and shaky, but i like

7/1/2007 10:10:55 PM

check out gallery for more pics

7/1/2007 10:15:19 PM

whoa can someone explain what happened with deerhunter and billy? i was there on friday but not saturday. i thought deerhunter fucking sucked.

7/2/2007 12:13:37 AM

^ nobody "knows" what happened between them, just that Billy told them not to play on Saturday

and this is my point from earlier, he might've just done it because most of you other people on Friday didn't like Deerhunter

7/2/2007 12:15:30 AM

Any bootlegs from 6-29?

7/2/2007 12:37:23 AM

digging 7 shades of black

7/2/2007 1:32:03 AM

Quote :

"he might've just done it because most of you other people on Friday didn't like Deerhunter"

wait... so you liked them??

i'm not at all trying to bash your taste or anything if you did, i'm just surprised. i didn't think anyone there was digging their performance lol. i mean, a starving man wearing a dress gave a blowjob to the microphone...

7/2/2007 2:07:40 AM

No, I don't hate them ("Spring Hall Convert" is a great song)
nor does spooky
and I don't think vb hated them after all the noise died down

I think they make more sense on their albums. In any case, I can't see a large percentage of the Pumpkins fanbase digging them, so whatever.

[Edited on July 2, 2007 at 2:24 AM. Reason : also, he has Marfan syndrome, thanks for being a dick and calling him "starving" ]

7/2/2007 2:20:35 AM

Quote :

"whoa can someone explain what happened with deerhunter and billy?"

we heard from people close to the situation that the guys from deerhunter let way too many people in for free on friday night and billy did not like that at all


that's just what we heard though

(and i was there both friday and saturday night)

7/2/2007 2:58:18 AM

^ The only thing I could think of is that perhaps Billy didn't like his facetious arm-wavery when he said, "and next, the Smashing Pumpkins!"

Part of me feels it's utterly ridiculous to suggest that Billy could be so petty, but the other part wouldn't put it past him.

7/2/2007 3:07:24 AM

i totally hear what you're screamin'

some people that we met friday night were also there saturday afternoon and they said they witnessed deerhunter getting kicked out by billy

who knows what really happened though

7/2/2007 3:12:07 AM

Quote :

"also, he has Marfan syndrome, thanks for being a dick and calling him "starving""

lol ok didn't know that. and yeah i'll definitely say that the songs toward the end of their set were better. i just didn't like a lot of the vocal effects he was using. they were cool in parts, but i think it was kind of overboard for most of the songs. i'm not familiar with the song you referenced, but if it was one of the last few they played then it was probably one of the ones i thought were better.

7/2/2007 3:32:48 AM

Honestly 2: Electric Kool-Aid Acid Boogaloo

http://www.spinner.com/2007/07/02/video-premiere-smashing-pumpkins-tarantula/

7/2/2007 6:19:13 AM

so i listened to the entire cd this morning, and what comes to my mind after just seeing most of these songs is i miss the keyboard (atleast its really quiet in the background on the recordings), i think it should be louder.

also, all these billy voices should go with their effects and echoes...put the girls backups in the recordings like the live versions.

i was also kinda hoping for a version of united states without all the making noise guitar stuff in the middle just to see what thatd sound like.

but yeah, all these weird things on US and starz with billy going whoo and wee and stuff is unnecessary

7/2/2007 9:54:30 AM

i listened to this album on my ipod and on CD in my car and in both places i didnt feel the mix was guitar heavy enough. I could always hear the guitar, but it never felt like the driving force, always kind of sounded a bit like it was in the background of the mix (ie cymbols drowned it out in some cases and other cases, other instruments).

this isnt always a problem for albums (ie some songs and albums arent designed to be guitar heavy from bands), but just listening to the riffs, a lot of them would sound so much better being brought forward to drive the song

7/2/2007 10:10:25 AM

7/2/2007 11:06:33 AM

tomorrow's my day....i'm hoping it'll be extra good since it's the day before the 4th.

7/2/2007 11:32:08 AM

Quote :

""Out on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins. Nature kids, they don't have no function. I don't understand what they mean, and I could really give a fuck.""

[Edited on July 3, 2007 at 1:03 AM. Reason : not the first time BC got a band kicked off their tour...]

7/3/2007 1:00:16 AM

i have been on a jimmy chamberlin-like binge the past 2 days

but with pumpkins tunes, not heroin


THANKS A LOT GUYS FOR PUTTING ON TWO OF THE GREATEST SHOWS I'VE EVER SEEN

[Edited on July 3, 2007 at 1:14 AM. Reason : LIFES A BUMMER]

7/3/2007 1:07:51 AM

for all of you on 6/29, we were supposed to get GOSSAMER as 2nd encore but they didn't come back out...

I'm also gonna post my setlist from 6/30 which has the songs that they had down to play but didn't...

7/3/2007 8:41:32 AM

anyone have the set list from last night?

7/3/2007 9:16:34 AM

it hasnt been posted yet, i will update this thread when i get it

7/3/2007 9:42:30 AM

Quote :

"Out on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins. Nature kids, they don't have no function. I don't understand what they mean, and I could really give a fuck."

Isn't it "major kids" ? I've seen lyric sites that say both, but I always thought "major kids" made more since, meaning that they're famous.

http://www.poprocks.com/articles/pavement.html

[Singer] Steve [Malkmus] was really talkative at the show, ripping on the Smashing Pumpkins and stuff. Somebody told me that that was about when you guys got passed up for Lollapalooza because of Billy Corgan. What was that all about?

We were up for Lollapalooza in 94 and Smashing Pumpkins said, "No, if Pavement does it, we're not doing it."

And that was all because of your song?

Yeah "Range Life" off of Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain. It's not very nice to them. But we got on the next year - a much cooler year.

7/3/2007 11:54:37 AM

so. thanks to statefan24 I will be attending tonight. Leaving straight from work!

7/3/2007 12:18:24 PM