wtf

pinkeye? don't know how that affects back surgery.

then again, is it a Navy doctor?

12/3/2011 10:11:36 PM

it's above the waist--just take some motrin

12/3/2011 11:04:34 PM

is that bear pic real?

v in my "this is not a chop" thread

[Edited on December 3, 2011 at 11:07 PM. Reason : .]

12/3/2011 11:05:56 PM

bear pic?


ah

[Edited on December 3, 2011 at 11:08 PM. Reason : now i see]

12/3/2011 11:06:36 PM

Surgeon said he wants to avoid any kind of infection. So I got some medicine and they gave me a week.

Not a navy doctor. I've got a real doctor who does these surgeries on a weekly basis, not some navy doc who does them every six months or so.

12/3/2011 11:38:10 PM

Do you wanna be a homosexual?

12/4/2011 12:06:09 AM

Oh look, a gay sailor joke.

12/5/2011 8:40:44 PM

Where do you see the Navy going in terms of downsizing and how do you see it affecting the mission?

12/5/2011 8:42:44 PM

^Eliminated JFCOM which was well overdue. They are also scaling back contractors which is also...way overdue. Contractors serve a purpose but it's gotten way out of hand.

12/5/2011 8:58:43 PM

Well, we still need to seriously evaluate the level of commitment and force disposition. Fleet sailors are getting the shaft daily because the people who make the force-sweeping administrative and financial decisions are so removed from the operational side of the Fleet.

12/5/2011 9:04:40 PM

The problem with that, chembob, is that if you ask "the warfighter" how things are going, the answer is "outstanding, sir!" No one wants to be the sailor that says things need improvement because of the idea that mentioning something doesn't work to a higher-up will reflect poorly on their evaluations.

Hell, last time I went to see, it was almost a week before any of the chiefs realized I seriously wasn't there to evaluate the crew. They were telling me how great and outstanding things were until I told them what I was really collecting data on, then they started "spilling the beans" on how things were.

Chiefs. God bless 'em.

12/5/2011 9:51:02 PM

what did you see when you went?

12/5/2011 9:52:38 PM

^Girls who had hit that "I don't give a fuck about my looks anymore" point. You could tell who had just transferred on board and who had been there a while.

12/5/2011 9:58:20 PM

I'm mixed on my experience with Chiefs. Upper chain and the Chiefs talk to one another more than they talk to their respective Divo's (and that's on both of the ships I've been on so far).

And please don't take this as knocking on Chiefs. They have helped me immensely. I'm just tired of being and seeing others (esp. Ensigns) bypassed regularly. Keeping the division officer informed and training the division officer are basic responsibilities of the leading CPO.

[Edited on December 5, 2011 at 10:04 PM. Reason : ah yes, and do not forget how FSA and DCPO duty can change junior blueshirts]

12/5/2011 10:03:00 PM

I guess my experiences with chiefs are usually positive because when I'm looking for data collection, they are the first ones to pop up and say, "This sounds like good work that needs to be done; let me help you get what you need."

I was out on the BULKELEY last fall and was having a hard time getting them to sent up my ship account on their network so I could report back to my warfare center. Basically, they told me what paperwork I needed, I supplied all of it, and they lost it. I filled everything out again besides an IA certificate that I had only brought one copy of. They lost that paperwork. I finally went down there and asked them what was taking so long. Some poor PS1 had come to the door and so I was pretty patient with them. Then some ensign came to the door and started explaining to me that they had a lot of stuff to do. I 'kindly' explained to her that as a presumably college educated individuals, I am assuming she understands that (a) we were not currently involved in any elevated operations, (b) it would take about 5 minutes to set up my account, and (c) the whole reason why my command was not getting what they were paying the ship to get was because they could find a couple fucking pieces of paperwork in a 20'X20' sealed metal room.

Seriously, how do you fuck that up? Anyway, she started apologizing and said she would start working on the account. I passed one of the chiefs I had been working with in 'Combat' (CIC) and he said, "Did they set up your account, sir?" I said "No, but I..." He cut me off and said, "well, let's head down there. That is fucking ridiculous that they haven't gotten that done. No excuse. I'll get Master Chief [so-and-so] if I need to to rip some asses."

It was all a bit over-dramatic for something as silly as an online account, but it showed me the standards some of these guys have, at least on that O-5 ship. I still haven't been out to an O-6 ship, though I'm tentatively participating on the ENTERPRISE sometime in the future.

12/6/2011 10:24:38 AM

With submarines outfitted with cruise missles now instead of nuclear weapons, sattelite pictures and data from outer space, and RAM missles and CWIZ mounts on Big Deck Ships,

WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE A SMALL BOY NAVY?

12/6/2011 10:42:57 AM

^What are you called a "small boy navy"?

12/6/2011 10:47:23 AM

CGs, DDGs, and anything else that isn't an Amphibious Assault type ship or a BIG Deck.

black shoes FTL

[Edited on December 6, 2011 at 10:53 AM. Reason : .]

12/6/2011 10:49:54 AM

^Big decks aren't equiped with VLS or 5" guns. They also aren't equiped with the Aegis system used for ISR and aren't capable of serving any roll besides sea basing. Sea basing is an important part of our Sea Power 21 strategy, but it's only one of three focus areas. The others are Sea Shield (Aegis is a big part of this) and Sea Strike, which is a focus of projecting power and influence from the sea... this requires coordination of big decks (aircraft carriers and amphibs) as well as DESRON-type forces.

There is also that whole thing where big decks can only defend themselves within a certain radius of their ship. If possible, you would like to avoid CWIS having to even activate.

12/6/2011 10:55:46 AM

Aegis, huh? Yeah, i get all my training in a cornfield in New Jersey.

Let's use some more 1974 technology. Got any tubes onboard that cruiser?

12/6/2011 11:04:36 AM

y'all are some salty mo'fuckers

12/6/2011 11:16:13 AM

Aegis is on it's 8th or 9th baseline. It's nothing like the original system. It's still the most advanced cooperative combative system used amongst any of the services. It's most modern application has been Ballistic Missile Defense and has proven extremely capable.

By the way, if age is a concern to you, I don't know why you are so against Aegis. The ENTERPRISE is still in service, after all.

Highly encourage you to watch this if you are down on Aegis. It's better than what any other country has at the moment. We shot down a satellite in 2008 from a cruiser which is fucking impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDqNjnUNUl8

12/6/2011 11:51:45 AM

it's only too bad there is not a youtube video of the USS Vincennes shooting down Iran Air flight 655.

Quote :

" On July 3, 1988, the ship shot down Iran Air Flight 655 over the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 civilian passengers on board, including 38 non-Iranians and 66 children. "

make that the Aegis equipped guided missle cruiser USS Vincennes (CG-49).



black shoe navy for ya

[Edited on December 6, 2011 at 12:06 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2011 12:04:40 PM

If you bothered to look at any of the information released since then by the US Navy and other entities, the problem was caused because a MiG was being tracked and maneuvered to cross paths with the airliner. At that time, Aegis was in a primative state and mistakenly passed the MiG track on to the airliner. The airliner maneuvered to follow it's flight path which headed in the direction of the cruiser. The MiGs commonly attempted to fly like commercial airliners to avoid detection as hostile tracks, so the cruiser classified the track as 'hostile' and ordered a course of action to defend itself.

It was a mistake based partially on user error and on a primative version of Aegis. The version of Aegis that mistook a commerical airline for a MiG on approach was years and years ago and several baselines ago. We've come a long way since then.

Again, you're trying to say it's not worth anything, but are forgetting that all of our allies are begging for Aegis and the Chinese are trying to copy our Aegis equiped ships. Must not be that bad...

[Edited on December 6, 2011 at 12:10 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2011 12:10:28 PM

I just noticed a user named NCStatePride posting in a thread called "Ask the sailor."

~

[Edited on December 6, 2011 at 12:17 PM. Reason : come out, come out, wherever you are~♥

12/6/2011 12:15:55 PM

^The irony isn't lost on me.

12/6/2011 12:16:54 PM

Aegis is taught in Virginia. They just use the cornfield in Jersey to perform radar tests.

12/6/2011 10:30:26 PM

radar test, eh?

12/6/2011 10:31:06 PM

indeed.

12/9/2011 8:52:50 PM

how's the commissary where you're at?

12/9/2011 9:00:31 PM

lol, 32nd Street is a zoo. Me and the wife actually use the one at MCAS Miramar (it's closer to where she works).

12/9/2011 9:02:25 PM

Ours is a zoo as well. It always disappoints me a little though. Half the store is processed foods, the meat is a little , and the produce is hit or miss (usually OK).

You'd think they would pack the place floor to ceiling with decent food. Keep 'em fit to fight, cut down medical costs, etc...

12/9/2011 9:21:47 PM

Quote :

"CWIZ"

Quote :

"CWIS"

CIWS.

Close-In Weapon System

CIWS.

Come on people.

and don't let maximus troll you.

[Edited on December 10, 2011 at 11:23 AM. Reason : ]

12/10/2011 11:21:46 AM

ICWUDT

12/10/2011 11:23:44 AM

^^Yeah, I usually just call it Phalanx. Let's face it....... that's what people are really talking about when they say CIWS.

12/10/2011 3:00:03 PM

CIWS only cares about CIWS.

12/13/2011 8:20:20 PM

Why do you have duty on Christmas?

12/24/2011 10:52:57 PM

^Cause we both don't have enough time to take off.

12/27/2011 8:25:56 PM

3/25/2012 7:55:36 PM

a good song.

3/25/2012 8:46:23 PM

GET IT??

BOB UH OH RILEY?

3/25/2012 8:50:37 PM

LOLOLOL

3/25/2012 9:06:23 PM

I'd ask myself questions, but I only know what I know.

6/12/2013 6:52:18 PM

have you met popeye?

6/12/2013 6:54:27 PM

So, based on page 1. You're a SWO?

6/12/2013 6:56:05 PM

Can't say that I have. He probably would get taken to Captain's Mast these days for half the stuff he does.

6/12/2013 6:56:54 PM

^^

6/12/2013 7:01:27 PM

Yes, I am a SWO.

[Edited on June 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM. Reason : sorry, didn't see your post until after i refreshed the page.]

6/12/2013 7:07:39 PM

Isn't that like the most stressful job in the Navy?

6/12/2013 9:33:14 PM

Quote :

"I'm mixed on my experience with Chiefs. Upper chain and the Chiefs talk to one another more than they talk to their respective Divo's (and that's on both of the ships I've been on so far). And please don't take this as knocking on Chiefs. They have helped me immensely. I'm just tired of being and seeing others (esp. Ensigns) bypassed regularly. Keeping the division officer informed and training the division officer are basic responsibilities of the leading CPO. "

Yeah, the Navy has a real culture problem, in my opinion, in that the officers allow the Chief mafia to usurp too much authority from them. You can trust their judgment and defer many things to them without ceding your authority. The culture among Marine SNCOs is wildly different than among Chiefs--they rule the roost for sure with respect to their Marines, but there is no question--nor is there generally any power struggle with or desire to step on or usually even circumvent--the officers.

As a corollary, I also think that the Marine Corps does a better job cultivating a mutual respect between officer and enlisted from the initial training (boot camp and OCS) level.

*I say this after having spent all but 3.5 out of my 9 years in the USMC serving in Navy commands.

[Edited on June 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM. Reason : but the Navy may be better about not treating everyone like a fucking infant in some ways]

6/12/2013 9:52:44 PM