quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "doing an imperial IPA tomorrow night based on the Avery Maharaja. LOTS and LOTS of hops..." |
are you using the actual avery recipe or making up your own? extract or AG?
[Edited on July 12, 2011 at 8:43 AM. Reason : if the pic doesn't show: http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13157]7/12/2011 8:42:02 AM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
using the actual recipe, however i am having to substitute for Simcoe as this is very hard to get right now and my homebrew store doesn't have it in stock...
doing all grain 7/12/2011 2:03:58 PM |
Bobby Light All American 2650 Posts user info edit post |
You can still find simcoe here: http://www.rebelbrewer.com/shoppingcart/products/Simcoe-Hops-%28US%29-%252d-1oz.-Pellets.html
[Edited on July 12, 2011 at 3:23 PM. Reason : .] 7/12/2011 3:23:06 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
thanks...im brewing tonight so o well...i'm subbing in Chinook. im not very picky and it should still have a piney aromatic to it. 7/12/2011 3:43:03 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
question: i spilled some yeast when i was dumping it into the carboy last night. i shook up the vial and it kinda spewed (it was late, i was drowsy)....anyways, it is fermenting right now and has a nice head on it, bubbling 1-2 times a second. i am worried though that it will poop out early because i dont have a solid cell count...
should i pitch another vial of yeast? i have one.... 7/13/2011 6:23:46 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
depends... if your O.G. > 1.060, then I would definitely pitch another vial. if you spilled 1/8th or less of it I wouldn't waste another vial, but if you spilled like 1/4 or more of it, it may be worth it. also depends on the style. DIPA right? I would pitch another vial...
yea, just saw the recipe you were using, at 1.090, you should be using a starter or two vials anyhow.
[Edited on July 13, 2011 at 8:26 PM. Reason : .] 7/13/2011 8:25:32 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't hit my target OG...i screwed up a number of things...however the thing is rocking in fermentation so i may not even pitch the 2nd vial. but i suppose adding another vial tonight for good measure would do no harm. 7/14/2011 11:09:10 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
doesn't matter how well it's doing right now, the only thing that matters is what your FG will be. you can't judge attenuation based on appearance, the only method is by gravity readings. if you used California Ale, it has good attenuation and can probably bring down a 1.090 OG down to 1.012 with one vial, but again depends on how much you spilled. i would pitch a second vial. else you'll have to wait to take the FG reading and if it's too high you'll have to repitch then with a starter to reduce oxidation at that point...
the point is, you have a high gravity beer, of course the yeast is going to rock, there's a ton of sugar... but yeast will drop out early if there's not enough yeast cells, meaning while it might rock at 1.090, it may crap out at 1.030 and not get you down to 1.012... this is why the science behind making starters and calculating number of cells needed is important.
rough estimate method for an Ale: (0.75 million) X (milliliters of wort) X (degrees Plato of the wort) (750,000) X (18,925) X (22.5) = ~320 billion cells needed.
considering the WLP001 is between 70-140 billion cells, two vials should have been used to start with anyhow, again, the rule of thumb anything over 1.060 should require a starter or two vials.
[Edited on July 14, 2011 at 1:44 PM. Reason : .] 7/14/2011 1:34:11 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
good info. thanks. i'll put the other vial in when i get home 7/14/2011 2:52:28 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
dry hopped yesterday. beer seems to also be clearing rather nicely. good flocculation from the yeast at the end of fermentation. 7/18/2011 3:38:32 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
good sign! transferring my belgian wit to secondary tonight or tomorrow 7/18/2011 4:29:57 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
back from vacation, the all grain equipment has been eying me down for a few weeks without being able to have time to give it a whirl.
going to try a left hand milk stout clone with a cocoa nib addition in secondary tomorrow.
chocolate milk stout...
7/29/2011 10:07:30 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
post the recipe! sounds good! 7/29/2011 10:47:42 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
here's the one i found
Mash Ingredients 7 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 lbs Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 12.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 12.0 oz Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 10.1 oz Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 8.0 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain
Mash In: Add 14.23 qt of water at 166.1 F 75 min - Hold mash at 151.0 F for 75 min -- Batch Sparge Round 1: Sparge with 3.94 gal of 168.0 F water. -- Add water to achieve boil volume of 6.13 gal -- Estimated Pre-boil Gravity is: 1.054 SG with all grains/extracts added Boil for 60 min Boil Ingredients Boil Amount Item Type 60 min 0.35 oz Magnum [12.50 %] (60 min) Hops 60 min 1 lbs Milk Sugar (Lactose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 10 min 1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (10 min) Hops
4oz cocoa nibs in secondary for 2 weeks
but i have zero confidence in my ability to get my temperatures and volumes that precise. so, we're going to use that as a guideline.
this will be my first all grain attempt.
thoughts? 7/29/2011 10:56:59 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
they just need to be within 1' or so to be close, if you're exact, more power to you but the only impact will be efficiency of the mash and how much sugar conversion happens. you probably won't notice it much.
also what yeast?
[Edited on July 29, 2011 at 11:46 AM. Reason : .] 7/29/2011 11:45:03 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
oh yeah, durr
California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) 7/29/2011 12:44:47 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
ended up going with this:
Quote : | "% LB OZ Malt or Fermentable ppg °L 61% 7 0 American Two-row Pale info 37 1 ~ 9% 1 0 Roasted Barley info 25 300 ~ 7% 0 12 Chocolate Malt info 34 475 ~ 7% 0 12 Munich Malt info 37 9 ~ 5% 0 10 Barley, Flaked info 32 1 ~ 5% 0 10 Oats, Flaked info 37 1 ~ 3% 0 6 Crystal 40L info 34 40 ~ 3% 0 6 Crystal 80L info 33 80 ~ 11 8 Batch size: 5.0 gallons
Original Gravity 1.056 measured (1.060 estimated) Final Gravity 1.016 / 4.1° Plato (1.014 to 1.017) Color 45° SRM / 89° EBC (Black) Mash Efficiency 71% measured (75% used for O.G. estimate)
hops use time oz variety form aa boil 60 mins 0.3 Magnum info pellet 15.0 boil 10 mins 1.0 East Kent Goldings info pellet 5.0 Boil: 4.0 avg gallons for 60 minutes
Bitterness 19.1 IBU / 5 HBU ƒ: Tinseth BU:GU 0.32
yeast Safale US-05 Dry Yeast info ale yeast in dry form with low to medium flocculation and 73% attenuation
Alcohol 5.9% ABV / 5% ABW Calories 198 per 12 oz.
misc use time amount ingredient boil 10 min .5 tspn Irish Moss info boil 10 min 8 pounds Lactose info" |
noticed some mistakes. t'was fun. got it on a blowoff tube now, rolling away pretty good.
nice and daaarrrrkkkkkkk... tasted great, smells great fermenting. so far, a success for the first AG batch.
i do realize now thought that my spigot water is insufficiently cool for my single stage immersion wort chiller i made. going to make another coil for a primary stage with it stuck into an ice bath, before i brew again.
[Edited on August 1, 2011 at 2:38 PM. Reason : water's not so cool in the summer in south texas.]8/1/2011 2:36:10 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " 8 pounds Lactose" |
Should be 1 lb. or 8oz. (which doesn't seem like enough), let's hope it's not 8lbs!
[Edited on August 1, 2011 at 3:14 PM. Reason : .]8/1/2011 3:13:05 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
what the hell
i didnt proof read it. i swear i put in 1 lb though.
but yes, 16oz lactose.
8lbs of lactose would be 8/1/2011 3:32:46 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Bottling the Belgian Wit tomorrow 8/3/2011 12:05:10 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Not bad for year 1, I wasn't even expecting cones!
8/3/2011 10:48:55 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Belgian Wit came out pretty clear... after doing some research it sounds like if you do a protein rest at 122'F and use a tablespoon or so of white flour it will keep the haze. Next time....
Or something like this: http://www.wyeastlab.com/com_b_productdetail.cfm?ProductID=12
But I just bottled last night 8/4/2011 12:09:20 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
i fear that my Horny Monster IPA smells better than it tastes. It smells phenomenal in dry hopping. I tasted it and it is a solid IPA, very very hoppy which is what i was going for...but i fear that i really didnt get the full body i wanted. I mashed at 152F though and thought it would be pretty close...maintained that temp to within a degree.
I also just don't think i got the efficiency i wanted out of it. However, pitching the 2nd vial was a great idea and allowed fermentation to really finish off nicely.
My measured OG: 1.065 My final gravity: 1.010
Give me about a 7.3% beer, which is all well and good...but i think im just missing that malty backbone i wanted. Maybe next time i'll mash at a higher temperature....mash in at 158F or so to get some more of those dextrines.
O well, RDWHAHB.
either way its going to be a solid IPA, just not exactly what i was going for.
[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 5:44 PM. Reason : ps: cheers to everyone on IPA day!] 8/4/2011 5:44:09 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Or if you just can't obtain the higher efficiency you can accommodate it by just using more grain. 8/5/2011 9:35:41 AM |
Bobby Light All American 2650 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, use more grain or throw some DME in there. 8/5/2011 11:10:50 AM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
i am going to bottle tonight and my fridge that i was going to cold crash it in broke...so im SOL. any tips on getting as clear a beer as possible at this point from secondary dry hopping? 8/9/2011 3:37:58 PM |
Bobby Light All American 2650 Posts user info edit post |
You could always use gelatin to clear your beer...although I've never used it and have heard mixed results.
But I wouldnt worry about it man. I'd put a hop bag over the end of your siphon to keep the hop particles from getting into your bottling bucket. Other than that, there's not a whole lot else you really can do without a crazy filtering setup.
It's going to taste the same regardless. 8/9/2011 3:41:11 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Maharaja isn't all that clear of a beer anyhow, not sure why you'd care all that much. 8/9/2011 5:17:40 PM |
DonMega Save TWW 4201 Posts user info edit post |
For those of you who keg, where did you get your corny kegs? Do the kegs usually come with all the connectors (beer/gas connector)?
Amazon doesn't have much, and they are listed for $50 used and $90 new. American Brewmasters has some listed for $50, but say "they come as they are", which is a little vague. I'll call American Brewmasters when I'm out of the office later today, but wanted to get some advice from you guys. 8/22/2011 11:19:59 AM |
Bobby Light All American 2650 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I usually pick mine up when I find a deal on Craigslist or something...or buy from brewing buddies.
$50 is "normal" price i'd say for purchasing from a store. There is absolutely no reason to buy a new keg unless you just want it to be nice and shiny..but nobody will ever seem them in a kegerator.
I bought one from AB and it was "as-is". No problems at all. They hold pressure, and that's really about all that matters. You might want to pick up some new o-rings from McMaster-Carr to keep on hand if you ever have a leak.
But i've bought all of my kegs used and they are all working just fine. I'd take them completely apart and clean them once you get them home.
[Edited on August 22, 2011 at 1:09 PM. Reason : .] 8/22/2011 1:08:54 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
so my first AG batch is going on sitting in primary over four weeks. whoops. been super busy.
it was a milk stout.
should i worry with racking? just straight to bottle?
fermentation seemed pretty standard, haven't taken a gravity reading. 8/23/2011 10:39:26 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
i'd go straight to bottle 8/23/2011 10:43:22 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
ty.
that's what i was leaning towards too. 8/23/2011 11:09:36 AM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
here's a pic of my Horny Monster IPA (modeled after the Maharaja)
8/25/2011 12:13:36 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
nice! color is pretty close to the Maharaja, a tad darker than most IPAs 8/25/2011 6:19:29 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
i bottled the austin homebrew supply 20th anni ipa
and while working through other bottles, forgot about it
it mellowed A LOT and makes me
still good, but it had so much potential
[Edited on August 26, 2011 at 10:21 AM. Reason : lesson learned] 8/26/2011 10:20:58 AM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
^^thanks! yeah i think i got the color pretty damn close
8/29/2011 12:24:46 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
My Belgian Wit (turned out ok, i'd give it a 6/10, lacks head and abit of alcohol present, decent color for extract/partial though)
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[Edited on September 4, 2011 at 4:56 PM. Reason : .] 9/4/2011 4:55:31 PM |
dave421 All American 1391 Posts user info edit post |
so getting ready to order this kit through groupbuy and finally get started on homebrew. Any thoughts or suggestions?
http://www.groupon.com/deals/midwest-hydroponic-montgomery-1 9/8/2011 4:54:48 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Sanitization is key in learning how to brew.
I'd get the Autumn Amber for a first batch, although all 3 options look delicious.
[Edited on September 8, 2011 at 7:59 PM. Reason : .] 9/8/2011 7:56:28 PM |
FanatiK All American 4248 Posts user info edit post |
Those hops looks amazing. I've just decided I'm growing some next year.
I don't have any pics (sorry), but I've currently got:
-Apfelwein and AHS 20th Pilsner on tap -Vanilla Porter conditioning in keg -AHS Summer Crisp IPA and Coffee Stout in primary
I'm going to brew up a batch of Apfelwein this weekend using Champagne yeast instead of the red wine yeast I usually use. The batch that's currently in the keg is my first attempt... that stuff is straight up dangerous. 9/9/2011 2:22:02 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Champagne yeast is what I use in hard apple cider every year, makes some good cider... dries it out a bit, so if you like it sweeter you may need some concentrate. 9/9/2011 3:55:48 PM |
FanatiK All American 4248 Posts user info edit post |
the drier the better 9/10/2011 8:53:13 AM |
Bobby Light All American 2650 Posts user info edit post |
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[Edited on September 20, 2011 at 12:27 PM. Reason : .] 9/20/2011 12:23:44 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
hey everyone...time to start thinking about a new brew!!! any suggestions for the fall season? 9/27/2011 4:21:09 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
if anyone has brewed a Founders KBS clone before, would you please share your thoughts/recipes.
I'm looking at tweaking http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f76/founders-breakfast-stout-clone-2011-hbt-competition-category-21-winner-239212/ a bit and doing a clone 9/28/2011 11:04:15 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
saison, brown, pumpkin if you're looking for something to drink in October/November
oatmeal or milk stout, porter, quad, bsda, asa, doppelbock stuff like that are all great winter brews.
i'm brewing again mid-October, most likely a quad or barleywine 9/28/2011 6:21:52 PM |
Chance Suspended 4725 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone got a good link to a kit for the equipment to get started brewing?
After that, a good link for the supplies?
I haven't started my education on brewing yet. It begins now. 10/2/2011 10:25:24 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.northernbrewer.com/ http://www.austinhomebrew.com/ http://www.midwestsupplies.com
Best books to have in your library:
How to Brew - by John Palmer http://www.amazon.com/How-Brew-Everything-Right-First/dp/0937381888/
Brewing Classic Styles - by Jamil Zainasheff & John Palmer http://www.amazon.com/Brewing-Classic-Styles-Winning-Recipes/dp/0937381926/
I have this kit and love it: http://store.brewhut.com/thebrewhutdeluxebrewingkit.aspx
Quote : | "1- 5 GALLON BETTER BOTTLE PLASTIC CARBOY (SECONDARY FERMENTER) 1- 6.5 GALLON PLASTIC PRIMARY FERMENTER 1- 6.5 GALLON BOTTLING BUCKET (DRILLED FOR SPIGOT) 1- BUCKET LID WITH AIRLOCK GROMMET 1- SPIGOT - FOR BOTTLING 1- AIRLOCK 1- UNIVERSAL STOPPER FOR CARBOY 1- AUTO SIPHON 5- FEET 3/8 INCH TUBING (FOR SIPHONING & BOTTLING) 1- SPRING-TIP BOTTLE FILLER 1- TRIPLE SCALE HYDROMETER 1- ADHESIVE THERMOMETER STRIP (FOR PRIMARY FERMENTER) 1- RED BARON BOTTLE CAPPER 1- HOMEBREW CLEANING KIT 1- EXTRACT & PARTIAL MASH DVD" |
This looks like a decent kit as well: http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewing/starter-kits/deluxe-beer-starter-kit.html
[Edited on October 2, 2011 at 12:15 PM. Reason : ;]10/2/2011 12:10:10 PM |
Netstorm All American 7547 Posts user info edit post |
^Aw yeah, thanks for that knowledge-bomb. I've got a ton of space and a roommate that also wants to home brew, so we're probably going to jump on this ASAP. Plus we have a close friend that just took a brewing class at Durham Tech and is going to toy around with it as well.
Plus my roommate is a Philosophy student, and there seems a real tradition in Raleigh of philosophy students saying "fuck it" and opening a brewery, so I think he needs the training. 10/2/2011 12:41:21 PM |