is $20M enough for texas? i'm not convinced.

9/19/2011 12:12:33 AM

People are jizzing all over Texas the same way they did when they were kids and talked about Superman and Spider Man teaming up.

Why stop at them? Why not get Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and the Chicago Bears?

I want an east coast league.

9/19/2011 9:23:30 AM

lol

9/19/2011 9:25:54 AM

^^I agree with Hoops. The Bears sound like a reasonable option. We should not be hesitant to keep them on the table just because they are in Chicago. Peppers is a good basketball player too, even though he is a product of UNCheat.

[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 9:31 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2011 9:28:36 AM

Hawaii would help us get into the Pacific Islands recruiting game. let's get them. We can create our own Troy Polamoluaoloamuaalo.

9/19/2011 9:29:54 AM

He went to USC

9/19/2011 9:31:53 AM

^^then do a Hawiian warrior dance for pre-game. We could do it to the Firefly song and it will be just like Thriller. TOB might actually tap his foot a bit.

[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 9:33 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2011 9:32:59 AM

Quote :

"He went to USC"

No shit. I'm talking up the Samoan angle.

Let's get USC, then.

9/19/2011 9:34:58 AM

Because Samoans come from Hawaii.

9/19/2011 9:36:07 AM

No, but a lot of them go to Hawaii.

Because it's the closest school w/ football.

You people don't know how to extrapolate, do you?

DURRRR...WHY DO PEOPLE FORM OKLAHOMAR GO TO TEXAS?

9/19/2011 9:38:38 AM

So what are the odds that the ACC Tournament will leave Greensboro for DAT NYC $$$ by the end of the decade?

I'd say it's certain.

You know Swofford couldn't care less about Greensboro.

Add Texas and we'll probably be forced to play the tourney in Houston or Dallas once every 5 years.

9/19/2011 12:19:10 PM

Lol, Villanova applied to the ACC? Eh, why not? We let Duke play football.

9/19/2011 12:19:21 PM

Tournament will probably alternated between Charlotte and NYC from now on.

Maybe Philly.

Bank on it.

9/19/2011 12:23:21 PM

Villanova would be a great add market wise, they carry the entire SE PA market in basketball (unless you went to Temple).

9/19/2011 12:33:44 PM

ACC North: Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Miami
ACC South: North Carolina, N.C. State, Wake Forest, Duke, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State


Sounds good to me

9/19/2011 12:34:51 PM

ACC North: Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Miami Wake Forest
ACC South: North Carolina, N.C. State, Wake Forest, Duke, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami

Fixed it for you

[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 12:40 PM. Reason : WF is the red headed step-child of NC schools in the ACC]

9/19/2011 12:39:27 PM

Two more teams will be added north of NC. The separation of WF from the other NC teams isn't going to be necessary.

9/19/2011 12:48:41 PM

UConn and either Rutgers or Villanova.

I'm hoping for Notre Dame, but I know it won't happen.

9/19/2011 12:53:09 PM

Notre Dame wont come to the ACC for football reasons alone. No way the ACC would allow ND to come for basketball only and screw up our football numbers. After all this is being driven purely by college football, basketball (and all other sports) are just along for the ride

Now if Notre Dame wanted to bring all of their sports to the ACC, then that would be a HUGE coup for our conference. In the end though, I think ND will wind up in the Big 10

I could see us going after Cincinnati or Rutgers

[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 12:57 PM. Reason : asdf]

9/19/2011 12:55:53 PM

Not sure where I ever said anything about football only.

9/19/2011 12:59:36 PM

Don't know why anybody would want Villanova in the ACC.

9/19/2011 1:00:50 PM

Rutgers and UConn have to be it. For academic reasons.

The only other BE teams that meet our standards are bball only or FCS for football currently (Nova).

9/19/2011 1:01:10 PM

doesn't villanova have an FCS team that's just about ready to jump to FBS? I thought they had a standing invite to the Big East in football. Might as well take them, they fit academically.

North
UConn
Pitt
Syracuse
BC

North Central
UVa
Virginia Tech
Maryland
Villanova

South Central
Duke
NC State
UNC
Wake Forest

South
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Florida State
Miami

9/19/2011 1:01:26 PM

Notre Dame wont come to the ACC because of their independent football status. The only way the ACC would allow them to join would be if they threw that away and brought all sports to the ACC (which isnt likely to happen)

LOL, the south central would be the NFC West of the ACC

[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 1:03 PM. Reason : asdf]

9/19/2011 1:02:46 PM

Do not want to be in a divison with all of the other NC teams.

9/19/2011 1:03:33 PM

Somehow Hoops Malone has the only post on this page that isn't just full of stupid

[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 1:13 PM. Reason : The fact that he's allowed to post at all says a lot about our mods, though.]

9/19/2011 1:12:04 PM

the durham school being in the south central division works surprisingly well.

9/19/2011 1:18:20 PM

UCONN and WV.

WV is the perfect add in terms of getting a team that we would love to hate.

9/19/2011 1:19:25 PM

Miami fits in my propsosed North Division 100 times more than Wake does

You have to think about the culture of the team and the town more than just looking at a map

9/19/2011 1:23:07 PM

Adding anyone other than Texas, Penn St, or ND will be an absolute mistake. We have too many mediocre, mid-market football teams as it is. We don't need another one.

Also, no need to add another Big East team. We already took the best of what they have.

+1 for Navy, though it wont happen.

9/19/2011 1:23:36 PM

Adding anybody but Florida, Alabama, Ohio State, or USC would be a mistake.

+1 for Army though

9/19/2011 1:27:43 PM

People typing Navy are being facetious, right?

9/19/2011 1:27:49 PM

^^^ is that a serious post?

i can't get over how much this makes the big east look like a boy playing a man's game. even their logo looks stupid now.

[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 1:30 PM. Reason : like they're the xfl or something.]

9/19/2011 1:29:02 PM

Navy attracts a larger audience than any other school in the ACC. While their football is boring, their ratings boost would be huge for our next TV contract, which is the point of the expansion.

Adding UCONN, Rutgers, or Villanova would just make us weaker in football.

9/19/2011 1:34:11 PM

derp

9/19/2011 1:34:52 PM

Can you show me some ratings from Navy games last year? I can't find any CBS College Sports station ratings for some reason..

9/19/2011 1:38:44 PM

9/19/2011 1:38:50 PM

Quote :

"Navy attracts a larger audience than any other school in the ACC."

i don't care about this one bit. they've had a good run as of late, with a gimmicky offense mind you, but as a program navy is unreliable. they just do not care about athletics as much as any school in the ACC. i can't believe i'm responding to this.

9/19/2011 1:41:46 PM

Navy is huge on the Armed Forces Network

9/19/2011 1:49:17 PM

god no, please no navy. we already have enough shitty, boring football teams to watch.

9/19/2011 1:50:04 PM

ibgoalielaxativerushesintodefendnavy

9/19/2011 1:52:06 PM

Naval Academy gains nothing joining the ACC.

Staying Independent in football is their best bet.

9/19/2011 2:01:22 PM

God, Rivals sucks.

Quote :

"So, the first official dominoes to fall in this reckless race to "super conferences" come thanks to ... the ACC?!?! It's true: While Texas A&M isn't officially a member of the SEC just yet and while rumors continue to swirl that Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech are days away from joining the Pac-12, the ACC announced Sunday morning that Pittsburgh and Syracuse officially are members of what now is a 14-team league. Why hasn't NCAA president Mark Emmert speaking out against actions that could irrevocably change his organization? It's certainly interesting, isn't it, that a day after the ACC laid another egg in its quest to be nationally relevant again in football, the league added Pitt and Syracuse - as if that's going to help the league turn around the perception that it can't hang with the big boys in football. "

Clearly, he's referring to the FSU game. I hate this way of thinking, that ONE team in ONE game can suddenly propel the conference into the upper echelon of eliteness overnight. Because hanging with the #1 team into the 4th quarter without your starting QB doesn't mean anything. And because ending the defending champions 17-game winning streak doesn't mean shit. And because dropping Ohio State out of the AP top 25 for the first time in forever doesn't mean anything. And because setting the single-game FBS rushing avg record doesn't mean anything. Fucking stupid.

Quote :

"Are you kidding me: Pitt and Syracuse? What, Connecticut and Rutgers didn't want to join? (Actually, in a few days, they may, too. And won't that add more fuel to the "The ACC can't really play football" fire.) The whole idea of the "super conferences" evidently is to squeeze every available penny from the networks when it comes to TV contracts. How in the world does adding Pitt and Syracuse increase the value of a football deal? (Basketball is a different story, though - again - this never has been about anything but football.) I still think the move to four 16-team "super conferences" will kill college sports as we know it. You would think someone would step up and say, "Wait a minute. Have we really thought this through?" But because they think there is one more buck out there to be made, the commissioners are in a sort of feeding frenzy. In a statement she released Sunday morning, UConn president Susan Herbst said she hoped that the realignment issue was settled soon so that universities "can change the national focus away from profiteering and back to student-athletes, where it belongs." "

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1267072

[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 2:03 PM. Reason : ]

9/19/2011 2:01:40 PM

I do agree about this all happening really fast. Syracuse leaving the Big East for the ACC is a pretty big deal to me, Syracuse basketball is the benchmark of the Big East in my mind and having the Big East tourney in MSG makes that conference tournament the best. Maybe I'm too nostalgic, but its gonna be hard for me to think of Syracuse as an ACC school.

and this is coming from a total outsider with no stake in the Big East, I wonder how their students are taking it.

9/19/2011 2:19:59 PM

Quote :

"Somehow Hoops Malone has the only post on this page that isn't just full of stupid"

HOOPS is on a REDEMPTION tour

Are all these people that keep posting teams like Army or Navy must just be looking for east coast teams that are 3 *s or better on NCAA College Football 2012 and throwing them out there.

- The service academies, regardless of team style or football ratings, don't match up well with a conference that has as many scholarship players as we have. They're better off picking their competitors and TV contracts themselves and they know it.

- Notre Dame will do everything possible to stay independent and keep their TV money. The only way they could boost earnings would be to go Big 10.

- WVU DOES NOT MEET OUR ACADEMIC REQUIREMENTS

Hope that clears things up.

9/19/2011 2:45:41 PM

i say go for johns hopkins...i mean, the acc is a lacrosse conference, right?

9/19/2011 2:58:12 PM

Georgetown

You get a great basketball team and a football team that plays here:

9/19/2011 3:07:58 PM

wow...that's smaller than a high school and probably middle schools in texas

[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 3:11 PM. Reason : asdf]

9/19/2011 3:10:51 PM

But it looks like they are expanding, so there is a lot of potential there. And apparently, that is all we are looking for.

9/19/2011 3:24:33 PM

Quote :

"I want an east coast league."

i've been saying this for pages...

Quote :

"People typing Navy are being facetious, right?"

negative. irrational maybe, but not facetious. just something i would like to see.

now that we've decided Pennsylvania is on the Atlantic Coast, if we got Penn State it would be a hell of a steal as well.

..but we'll probably end up with Rutgers and UConn.

we won't go for Nova or G-town, but its not because of their lack of a football stadium... Nova is already thinking about sharing the field with the Philly Union, and G-Town can borrow Saturdays from the Skins.

come to think of it, we should go after Harvard... just kidding

9/19/2011 3:25:56 PM