cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Appreciate your well thought out reply. Jaybee: enjoy serving out the crow. I've got to be up early to get out and do some long overdue fishing. Enjoy wallowing in misery. 9/1/2012 1:33:23 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Dude, just admit you pulled that line out of your ass
And nobody is wallowing in misery. Christ 9/1/2012 1:35:06 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
meh, unlike most people on here I dont take pleasure in the misery of others. Plus my second favorite team got beat, its not like we beat someone I hate like UGA or Florida. They played really good, especially in areas that I was worried about, and I just cant fathom how the offense would be if Da'Rick wasnt a retard.
holy shit, I did just see the replay of CP's run, jesus hes fast
[Edited on September 1, 2012 at 1:43 AM. Reason : d] 9/1/2012 1:36:02 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Pittman seems to be a much better fit at UT than UNC.
I admit nothing. 9/1/2012 1:38:20 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "personally, I'd be happy with similar results to last season.
i'm not trying to be a hater or anything, but i'm just not seeing how we can win 5+ ACC games this season. you think we're better than Clemson and FSU??" |
Why are people happy with a shitty program? Its not like we should be good or anything but that doesn't mean we should be happy with 8-5 as our peak. This is the 3rd of the 3 peak years for the TOB era and the next few years are going to be much rougher. You can't have peak years like this. He's been here too long for a bowl game to be enough to satisfy.
Its early in the season and part of this loss was our shittyness but part of the loss is just the fact that the sec is worlds better than the acc. The mid-level sec teams are just as good as the top acc teams. This is what fsu and clemson will taste like and we have time to get better before the fsu game.
Our season isn't over but tonight was not a good sign. We have a chance but holy shit everything has regressed. We are back to having nothing. Even the things we thought we had like secondary, qb, and kicker are shitty at this point.
Does anyone see ever finishing higher than 3rd in the fucking acc atlantic after this year? not with TOB. Time to start thinking long and hard about that.
[Edited on September 1, 2012 at 2:59 AM. Reason : even if the season is salvaged. remember that time we dismissed an nfl starting qb? TO HAVE THIS]9/1/2012 2:57:28 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not throwing in the towel yet. state played like shit and if not for that absurd 38 second stretch, it would have been a tossup with a team that fired on every single cylinder they could find 9/1/2012 6:40:27 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You can't have peak years like this" |
We haven't begun to peak9/1/2012 7:03:10 AM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
Glennon looked fine overall. At least 2 of the interceptions were toward the end of the game when we were trying to get the ball down field a lot more and he was forcing a lot of throws....
During the first half when he was a lot more cool and collected, he was picking apart their secondary.
I'm not worried. There are a lot of games left. 9/1/2012 8:03:58 AM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Who's ready to lose to UCONN?
Get ready, it's coming. 9/1/2012 8:07:31 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Love the emotional shift from ^^ to ^
on a sad note, that fan who fell died from his injuries: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8324831/fan-dies-fall-georgia-dome-upper-deck-tennessee-north-carolina-state-game
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[Edited on September 1, 2012 at 8:59 AM. Reason : .] 9/1/2012 8:53:30 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
If you are evaluating TOB's records, you need to deduct one win from each of the past few seasons we played 2 IAA opponents.7-5 has been thee minimum record needed for bowl eligibility. Last season we played two IAA opponents plus Central Michigan, which might as well be one, so 8-5 would actually be an improvement... 9/1/2012 9:16:29 AM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone plays weak opponents. Behind every 12-1 season or national championship are a couple cupcakes. 9/1/2012 9:20:23 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The authority had said the fall occurred about 8:30 p.m. Friday night during the game in which Tennessee beat North Carolina 35-21 in the season opener for both teams." |
silver lining
]9/1/2012 11:11:02 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
yea difference is those cupcakes are teams we'd beat by 10 points 9/1/2012 11:28:49 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
So I guess Tennessee sacrificed a fan for the win, so I'll call the game a draw
(The 20 year old fan who fell during the game died and was from Tennessee) 9/1/2012 12:02:37 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
OHNOWESUCKAGAIN!1 9/1/2012 12:22:21 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Take away a safety and two absolute shit blown coverages and we are coasting to a 1-0 record." |
Were these really Amerson's fault? It looked as if someone else blew their coverage.9/1/2012 12:36:28 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Even in a loss, there are a few good photos from the game:
I was hoping for one of the play running into the ref, but didn't see any of those.
[Edited on September 1, 2012 at 12:42 PM. Reason : ] 9/1/2012 12:41:35 PM |
Johnny Swank All American 1889 Posts user info edit post |
It's going to be a long season if both the defensive and offensive lines continue to play like a sackful of vaginas.
Carry on.. 9/1/2012 1:32:20 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Were these really Amerson's fault? It looked as if someone else blew their coverage." |
He said they were both on him. The first he said the thought he was running a different route. The second he thought he had a safety deep.9/1/2012 1:52:18 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Our two best players really let us down in this game. The rest of the team looked pretty good, but 4 ints and 2 blown coverages will lose most games against anybody.
The Juco WR for Tennessee was nasty. 9/1/2012 2:46:32 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, everyone was excited to see what CP could do but I dont think anyone was expecting that.
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2012/cordarrelle-patterson-nc-state-highlights/
Good summary, everyone at Chuck Oliver's site usually is pretty hard on UT (lots of Auburn and UGA grads on staff)... http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2012/09/chuckoliver-net-exclusive-analysis-from-the-georgia-dome-tennessee-35-n-c-state-21/
Like the last guy, I was also wondering how the hell did they lose Payton's big ass lol http://cfn.scout.com/2/1216930.html
[Edited on September 1, 2012 at 3:40 PM. Reason : D] 9/1/2012 3:21:57 PM |
APCrook All American 1453 Posts user info edit post |
can't be optimistic after watching our defense do the same things that have infuriated me for the last five years: give up seemingly every third down, miss tackles, play soft coverage, and give up a ton of points.
people talking shit about glennon, but the defense did nothing to help him. the offense was looking good until we were two scores down. granted we were in a position at the start of the second half to score and tie or be down by one. but i still think this is gonna be another season where if we don't score every possession we're fucked because the other team will never have to punt. 9/1/2012 3:23:24 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Not clicking that, but I did try to create a gloating thread. Locked up after just a few replies. 9/1/2012 3:24:19 PM |
SouthPaW12 All American 10141 Posts user info edit post |
Sad. But we're NC State. It'll be out grandchildren's children watching NC State football be good... if ever.
#trollbuttrue. 9/1/2012 3:39:12 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Nice pics above by the way, I'll add a few
9/1/2012 4:33:04 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
that was another terrible pass by glennon. most of his completions are plays that have no chance of going anywhere. 9/1/2012 4:46:15 PM |
SchndlrsFist All American 5528 Posts user info edit post |
Hai guise! Just checking in. I was at the game last night and it was a thoroughly enjoyable experience. I was surprised how many of you wolf packers made the trip down. I estimate that 30% to 35% of the crowd was NC State fans. However, the red seats at the Georgia Dome created the illusion of a full force 38% NCSU crowd.
Also, it would've been really interesting to see how the game turned out if Rogers or Amerson had shown up. Just a thought.
Good luck the rest of the season and Go Pack/Vols! 9/1/2012 5:04:58 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^ ouch, but since you were at the match you probably didnt get to see the broadcast, here are some highlights set to some hip hop.
Bray is so white
Quote : | "Follow me @russmitchellcfb
It’s true Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley has a number of returning starters to work with (18), however few of them actually excelled last season, the one who did is has been booted from the team (Da’Rick Rogers), and it’s not like a lot of their position coaches returned with them.
So for a game one, against a good opponent on a neutral field, this Tennessee Volunteer team executed quite well; certainly better than anyone on Rocky Top had a right to hope for.
Credit need be shared among many, but a healthy portion of it should find its way to new defensive coordinator Sal Sunseri. On the surface, his unit appeared to give up a lot of yards (407), but look a little closer… It only surrendered seven points and 154 yards after halftime – and a full third of those yards came on NC State’s final drive, with the game out of reach.
Sunseri’s defense was by no means perfect, but it played with authority down the stretch and snatched four interceptions from the otherwise talented Mike Glennon – who had a total of 12 in 13 games last year.
That’s a welcome sight given Tennessee finished ninth in the conference in turnover margin in 2012.
Speaking of sight, a lot of critical eyes were focused on the beleaguered Vols offensive line, most of whom have played together – if poorly – for quite some time (106 career starts). Unlike in games past, this unit delivered nicely against the Wolf Pack. Quarterback Tyler Bray had ample time to work through his progressions all night, and for the most part stayed upright. Meanwhile, the unit opened holes big enough to park a trailer in. On the night, the Vols ran for 197 yards.
To truly grasp the significance of this, Tennessee didn’t run for more than 150 yards even one time all of last season, which included games of -9 net rushing yards vs. Florida (on 21 carries) and an embarrassing -21 net yards to Georgia (on 23 carries).
At the end of the first quarter the Vols scored 16 points in the span of 38 seconds, and from that moment on rarely looked like they were not in control of this game. Newcomer Cordarrelle Patterson’s two touchdowns, one of them on a nifty 84 yard run, had a lot of folks in Knoxville saying “Da’Rick who???”
It’s all intertwined, but perhaps most important to the offensive explosion was the stellar play of Vols quarterback Tyler Bray. The 6-6, 225 pound Bray rarely looked flustered, worked through his progressions with a calm efficiency, and thus had the following impressive stat line to show for his work: 27/41, 333 yards, 2 touchdowns and no interceptions.
Bray has now passed for 300+ yards in more than half of 13 starts (seven) – and 250 yards or more in 10 of 13.
Bray had the full arsenal going in Atlanta: great touch, accuracy, and good zip on the ball when needed. He completed 9-of-9 third down plays in the second half (converting first downs on six of those). In fact, Tennessee chose to run on third down just once in the second half, at the very end of the game.
With relative ease, the junior from Kingsburg, California seemed able to throw a 50 yard bomb and hit a dime. A dime running a 4.5 40.
Yes, Bray looked like a cold-blooded killer Friday night" |
[Edited on September 1, 2012 at 5:54 PM. Reason : d]9/1/2012 5:36:13 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In fact, Tennessee chose to run on third down just once in the second half, at the very end of the game. " |
why would you run on thrid down against us? we're gonna give you a ten yard cushion every time for you to make a pass9/1/2012 7:08:45 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Everyone plays weak opponents. Behind every 12-1 season or national championship are a couple cupcakes." |
I hear you. I mean, even Tennessee got in on that action this year. 9/1/2012 7:32:35 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
The sad thing is thinking about last night's game no one for State stands out as having a good game. Maybe the running backs, but they didn't seem to get the ball enough. 9/1/2012 10:33:32 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
LOL. "Grrrrr!!! fear me QBs!!!" hahahah
haha, I had to 9/2/2012 3:14:37 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
problem is those are footballs and not High Life bottles 9/2/2012 3:34:49 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
for those of you that were at the game, SportsSouth is showing a replay at midnight tonight 9/2/2012 6:56:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
just noticed there are 13 footballs in that picture 9/2/2012 7:03:50 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
our best players would not even start in the sec 9/2/2012 7:38:08 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Yes. Yes they would. 9/2/2012 7:41:33 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
hell, half the people posting in this thread would start for Kentucky. Still pissed we lost to their worthless asses 9/2/2012 7:54:00 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
none of us would start over Mister Cobble 9/2/2012 7:56:32 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "can't be optimistic after watching our defense do the same things that have infuriated me for the last five years: give up seemingly every third down, miss tackles, play soft coverage, and give up a ton of points. " |
yup. didn't really expect to win this game, but I am so sick of seeing prevent defense all damn day with morale crushing 3rd down conversions because we are playing 10 yds off the WRs. That style of defense is infuriating to watch and it has been happening for the last 6 years. Nate Irving's ridiculous athleticism and motor are the only things that have ever made our defense under ToB even remotely watchable.
[Edited on September 2, 2012 at 10:10 PM. Reason : d]9/2/2012 10:09:03 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
dont soft prevent coverages prevent things like 70 yard touchdown passes? cant have it both ways 9/2/2012 10:17:12 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
At this point, I'd rather take my chances. Our team defense has finished in the bottom half of the ACC every year that ToB has been here in team defense including the first three stellar seasons (07-09) where we finished last or second to last in the ACC. Meanwhile our offense has been above average to occasionally stellar as he has been here longer, but it has been wasted.
Everyone points to recruiting, but our average recruiting hasn't produced terrible results on the offensive end. On the other hand, our gameplans on the defensive end basically makes it impossible to succeed year after year but we still keep doing the same thing. I still can't get that game out of my head from a couple years ago where we made the Duke QB look like a fucking Heisman candidate as he marched down the field hitting short slants and outs all day.
[Edited on September 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM. Reason : x] 9/2/2012 10:37:10 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
So much hope on page 14 9/3/2012 12:46:57 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
offensive stats are padded by wilson. imagine if he left when chuck left? 9/3/2012 3:21:47 AM |
jeffshelton All American 864 Posts user info edit post |
"meh, unlike most people on here I dont take pleasure in the misery of others." - jibbles
Unprovoked:
Quote : | "So much hope on page 14" |
Quote : | "LOL. "Grrrrr!!! fear me QBs!!!" hahahah
<img src="http://media2.newsobserver.com/smedia/2012/08/25/20/27/BRgZ1.Em.156.jpeg">
haha, I had to" |
Quote : | "Nice pics above by the way, I'll add a few..." |
How objective!9/3/2012 1:32:28 PM |
Elwood All American 4084 Posts user info edit post |
i don't know if it was our d-line or the LBs but damn we didn't sniff Bray all night.
i guess Tenn has a good OL. 9/3/2012 1:44:18 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Page 14 - simply an observation since I was at the game and didnt follow most of the thread during the game, didnt throw in a comment at all, the very definition of objective
Nice pics - they were nice, and I added more nice ones
Amerson pic - well, that was the point of the pic, to show his prowess as a DB 9/3/2012 1:50:49 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Then came Friday night. Tennessee, picked to finish fifth in the SEC East, took the 'Pack to the woodshed. Don't let the final score fool you, the Volunteers dominated this game from the opening whistle and were never in danger of losing the game" |
I've seen several game analyses like this and I know the game wasn't really in question in the 4th quarter (I still had hope when we got the ball down 11 with 10 minutes to go) but was it really that bad? Were we not winning briefly before the worst 5 consecutive plays I've ever seen? Did we not play a great 2nd quarter and had momentum going into the half down a single possession (and getting ball first)?9/3/2012 6:12:28 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I thought the first half was pretty even. We played well, moved the ball fairly decent, and came up with some good defensive plays. They made more big plays and we had more turnovers. We went in down one score and were getting the ball at the start of the 2nd. That's pretty much even, slight edge to Tennessee.
They dominated the 2nd half. We had our chances, but fucked them up. The game was in doubt for them up until the 4th quarter, but they won both sides of the ball rather convincingly in the 2nd half and we kept fucking up. 9/3/2012 6:42:17 PM |