LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
RIP JEB! 2/20/2016 8:48:22 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Please don't clap 2/20/2016 9:05:57 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Dude was just too flacid, and dragging his mom and brother around with him aint gonna fix that. I doubt he tries this again. 2/20/2016 10:19:14 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
he spent almost $2K per vote he got in 3 states. 2/20/2016 11:17:25 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
This Trump thing might actually be happening huh? At least he'll nominate Sen. Cruz to SCOTUS. 2/21/2016 7:23:40 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
That's so crazy it just might work. 2/21/2016 10:13:35 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53108 Posts user info edit post |
It's officially a ] 2/21/2016 10:37:40 AM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
I, for one, would thoroughly enjoy a Trump v Hillary debate. We are already stuck with shit options, might as well get some entertainment out of this dumpster fire. 2/21/2016 10:59:52 AM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
Cruz has TX, Rubio may have FL, and Kasich maybe has OH - other than those, not seeing any roadblocks left for Trump. So, I too, will enjoy watching the dumpster fire of a campaign that will be Trump v. Hillary. I really cannot imagine what a debate between those two would look like. 2/21/2016 11:28:28 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I mean even the most anti-Clinton people who would never vote for her would have to admit her debating policy with Trump would be like Lebron playing one-on-one with a blind cripple. 2/21/2016 4:43:47 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
In a traditional debate of course but Trump doesn't exactly follow the rules on this whole campaigning thing and hasn't had trouble in debates yet really. Plus I just want Trump to bring up Hildogs dirt, he would definitely go where other candidates wouldn't and it would be entertainment gold. 2/21/2016 6:45:14 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Watching coverage from Saturday night. I think between Trump and Cruz if it came down to the two of them, I'd support Trump. 2/21/2016 7:01:06 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
if cruz drops out now, then his votes would go to rubio. only chance of trump not winning the nomination
rubio would have to promise cruz to the SC or VP to drop out though, but then again the attacks have been so personal it's hard to see them helping each other out or endorsing each other 2/21/2016 7:30:43 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if cruz drops out now" |
that's a pretty stupid premise to being a post with.2/21/2016 7:36:07 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
its "stupid" because it's highly unlikely, but what is needed for Trump to not win 2/21/2016 7:46:25 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
This guy has a different idea - http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/krauthammer-bottom-candidates-drop/2016/02/20/id/715339/
[Edited on February 21, 2016 at 7:49 PM. Reason : and he's at least somebody] 2/21/2016 7:48:52 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
its stupid because why would the guy who is winning be the one to drop out. 2/21/2016 8:29:22 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Well, 2nd place at least, but yah that was my point. 2/21/2016 8:51:35 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
I think Rubio needs to go to Kasich and say "if I win the nomination, you're my VP; we'll make it public now and you can campaign for me" 2/22/2016 5:43:59 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Kaisch is hanging on just in case Rubio has another 'let's dispel the notion' moment. 2/22/2016 8:34:44 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23028 Posts user info edit post |
I guess Bush's supporters will now default to Rubio, but that 4-6 % probably won't get him much. 2/22/2016 9:22:48 AM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
Based on the most recently available fundraising numbers, Rubio and Kasich are both running low - which doesn't bode well for competing in multiple states on Super Tuesday. MI votes on March 8, OH votes on March 15, so unless Kasich performs better than expected on Super Tuesday, I can't see him sticking around until March 15 just bc he won't have any money left.
[Edited on February 22, 2016 at 9:38 AM. Reason : MI & OH are the only two states Kasich is projected to do well in at the moment.] 2/22/2016 9:35:46 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Based on the most recently available fundraising numbers, Rubio and Kasich are both running low" |
O rly?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-wallst-idUSMTZSAPEC2MY4393T http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-wp-blm-rubio-donate-62c78962-d956-11e5-8210-f0bd8de915f6-20160222-story.html http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/christie-dc-fundraiser-signs-on-with-rubio-219555
An important point:
Quote : | "More money could be on the way for Rubio as the Republican field narrows. Within minutes of Bush leaving the race, for example, some of his donors told Reuters they were preparing to throw their financial support behind Rubio." |
2/22/2016 9:46:19 AM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
Yes. I'm referring to actual campaign finance figures, not speculative articles written since. Last quarter's numbers were released before Rubio's recent "win" in SC and Bush dropping out so I don't doubt he'll pick up some of Bush's donors. But I'm also talking about campaign dollars, not super PAC monies - so the money actually used to pay staffers, not just run ads. 2/22/2016 9:52:13 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
You must not be talking about these numbers: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/marco-rubio-campaign-finance-218488
But then how would anyone know, because you haven't linked to shit.
I don't have a horse in this race, unlike you, but it's pretty clear you should have excluded Rubio from that hot take above.
And if you would have actually clicked the links you'd discover there isn't anything speculative about what's happening:
Quote : | "Bobbie Kilberg chose quickly. A top Republican fundraiser in Virginia, she got the news of Bush's withdrawal Saturday night over text messages at a dinner. By the next morning, she was giving interviews about her support for Florida Sen. Marco Rubio. She used the word "coalesce" twice when describing how the GOP's moderates need to rally behind a single candidate.
With Bush out of the way, the Florida picture may reverse, according to John Rood, a Jacksonville, Florida, real-estate executive who serves on the executive committee of Right to Rise. He's already backing Rubio after speaking with the candidate Saturday night, he said in an interview.
"This is very emotional for a lot of people who gave it their all for Jeb," Rood said. "But now it's time to go to Plan B."
Another top Florida fundraiser, Al Hoffman, said he's still "in mourning" over Bush but will probably end up backing the state's junior senator.
Even before Bush withdrew from the race, a few top donors were drifting away as he languished in the polls. They include Bruce Berkowitz, the Florida money manager who put $250,000 behind Rubio after an early bet on Bush; and Harlan Crow, the Texas real-estate developer who supported Right to Rise last year and whose family partnership sent $250,000 to Rubio's super-PAC in January.
Another super-PAC donor who didn't wait for Bush to drop out was Brian Ballard, a Florida lobbyist who switched to Rubio, saying that the party needs to rally behind a candidate who can beat Trump." | ]2/22/2016 10:23:29 AM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
FEC. Rubio - Ending Cash On Hand $5,055,406 / Cruz - Ending Cash On Hand $13,645,419
Your link - http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do 2/22/2016 10:37:06 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23028 Posts user info edit post |
You should have a horse in this race. Everyone should.
Every Democrat that gives a crap about this country should be voting for Rubio in the Republican primaries. 2/22/2016 10:53:53 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
2/22/2016 11:02:31 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/21/politics/john-kasich-planned-parenthood-bill/index.html
Quote : | "Ohio Gov. John Kasich signed a bill Sunday prohibiting the state from contracting for health services with any organization that performs or promotes abortions, blocking government funds to Planned Parenthood.
Planned Parenthood isn't explicitly named in the legislation, but the law will prevent more than $1 million in funding from the state health department from going to the nonprofit to fund programs such as HIV testing, health screenings and prevention of violence against women." |
So much for being the one reasonable moderate republican in the mix...
Apparently appealing to his moon bat crazy Christian base in more important that true conservative ideas/policies (ie it is a lot cheaper cost to society to pay for womans health services and birth control then to let people run around spreading the clap and having babies out of wedlock.)
I suppose those with the -R in their name, need people that are on the fence for using birth control (due to out-of-pocket) costs and are against abortion to have more unintended babies to perpetuate "the base". These kids will likely grow up in poor god fearing blue-collar homes with similar beliefs to their knocked up moms.2/22/2016 11:21:30 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
He's always been a staunch pro-lifer. 2/22/2016 11:31:25 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Of all the problems in this country why is it pretty much a requirement that a high level Republitard has to be Pro-Life to get anywhere in this country..... 2/22/2016 11:33:22 AM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
maybe bc it's a basic tenet of our platform? 2/22/2016 11:34:27 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
de-funding PP isn't pro-life, it's anti-healthcare 2/22/2016 11:52:40 AM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
That ^ is a debatable statement, but the comment was about being pro-life, not PP. 2/22/2016 12:02:22 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
I'm still confused why unborn fetuses matter. 2/22/2016 12:21:09 PM |
moron All American 34156 Posts user info edit post |
Republicans are pro-birth, they aren't pro-life. 2/22/2016 12:25:14 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Smoking hot take right there 2/22/2016 12:39:51 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23028 Posts user info edit post |
^^That isn't an untrue statement, based on their support of capital punishment. But let's get back on track.
Democrats, vote in our election, keep Trump from winning the primary. 2/22/2016 12:53:27 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
I would think most informed democrats are probably more afraid of a Cruz presidency than a Trump one 2/22/2016 1:11:54 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I would think most informed democrats are probably more afraid of a Cruz presidency than a Trump one" |
2/22/2016 1:18:51 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Cruz would do more damage than Trump
[Edited on February 22, 2016 at 1:33 PM. Reason : or at least would try to, probably wouldn't be very effective] 2/22/2016 1:32:26 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23028 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not saying vote for Cruz. At this point Trump and Cruz, either/or would be pretty damaging. 2/22/2016 1:35:59 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Back in January "Trump was growing on you," now you want Dems to cross-over and vote for someone who's positions are basically the same, just with less bloviating. What changed? 2/22/2016 1:45:25 PM |
moron All American 34156 Posts user info edit post |
Calling trump's style "bloviating" is underselling it, he's worse than a bloviator. https://www.facebook.com/ezraklein/videos/10153996823213410/?pnref=story
Cruz policies are bad or worse, but the presidency is responsible for more than just policy writing (this isn't even a delegated duty...), and Trump is far worse in this aspect. 2/22/2016 1:55:14 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i think he will just go back to regular grandstanding after the election, so i see cruz being much more hateful and damaging at the non-policy stuff 2/22/2016 2:05:50 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Cruz policies are bad or worse, but the presidency is responsible for more than just policy writing (this isn't even a delegated duty...), and Trump is far worse in this aspect. " |
The difference is that congress will be able to out maneuver politically anything Trump is trying to do. Plus as a businessmen i'd like to think he has some negotiation skills and wiggle room.
Cruz though knows all the inner workings over congress and as a harvard law grad would be dangerous in finding ways to pursue his agenda. Plus from numerous anecdotes he seems to not only be a dick but consistently portrays "my way or the highway".2/22/2016 3:15:46 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23028 Posts user info edit post |
Mr. Terd, that was the point of that thread. Trump is growing on me. But I'm still a sane individual. I'm not gonna vote for him. He can grow on me and still not get my vote. 2/22/2016 3:55:44 PM |
moron All American 34156 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Trumps business acumen is overblown, trump talks himself up but he's not spectacular. I think the Chinese or merkel or the Iranians would eat him up.
His biggest asset is his celebrity brand, he's paris Hilton: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422762/paris-hilton-2016-out-trumps-trump trump takes too big risks and uses bankruptcy law to hedge-- he can't use this tactic as president.
And I am not certain congress can out maneuver him, he will play dirty and make things personal to essentially black mail politicians to doing what he wants, assuming he can bring enough Americans to his side, which he has a proven ability to do. 2/22/2016 5:20:34 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
If it wasn't for the racism and xenophobia, I'd be voting for trump hands down. 2/22/2016 6:49:19 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52848 Posts user info edit post |
^^ mostly agree.
^ i can't think of anything where he isn't on the wrong side of the issue. Admittedly, his policies are neither fleshed out nor steady and predictable based on past record, and I don't pay super close attention to him...but he's pretty disastrous across the board. 2/22/2016 10:14:49 PM |