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David0603
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So, you have 2-1 odds. You can easily call with a weaker hand.

1/7/2009 11:54:24 AM

prep-e
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true. but depending on the size of tournament, 9 or 10 BB's can be a decent chunk of your stack to commit in the later stages. I guess it just depends on your style of play. Most of the time I would rather save my chips and either try to outplay someone or pick a better spot rather than leaving it all to coinflip situations.

1/7/2009 1:13:26 PM

David0603
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Yeah, but don't pass up coinflips when you will win twice the amount you will lose.

1/7/2009 1:20:13 PM

prep-e
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Anyone have any interest in a Vegas Trip Feb 5-9th? 4 nights at the Flamingo and round trip flight, cost is $334 total. I will be playing poker the majority of the time, just looking for a wingman to cut down on costs.

1/8/2009 11:33:09 AM

sNuwPack
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can me and a buddy show up and just throw in on the room?

1/8/2009 8:53:55 PM

prep-e
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are you wanting to stay there all 4 nights or what? maybe we can work something out

1/8/2009 11:20:30 PM

dman ncsu 86
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I'm down prep-e. I'll be glad to split hotel costs, etc...

1/9/2009 1:04:05 AM

prep-e
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what a joke. do they ever win? (was trying to raise to 360 preflop but my timer was about to run out and I couldn't get it right)

Full Tilt Poker Game #9946976992: $8 + $0.80 Tournament (75603705), Table 7 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:49:13 ET - 2009/01/09
Seat 1: Krouskoupf1A (1,770)
Seat 2: nikedunklowpro (1,920)
Seat 3: Kozzy23 (1,900)
Seat 4: kata69290 (1,850)
Seat 5: BigGreenBag (1,810)
Seat 6: Dian1017 (2,100)
Seat 7: T Mills 7 (2,040)
Seat 8: MeanJG (2,000)
Seat 9: muecke81 (5,050)
Kozzy23 posts the small blind of 15
kata69290 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Ah As]
BigGreenBag has 15 seconds left to act
BigGreenBag raises to 90
Dian1017 calls 90
T Mills 7 folds
MeanJG folds
muecke81 calls 90
Krouskoupf1A folds
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro raises to 420
Kozzy23 folds
kata69290 folds
BigGreenBag has 15 seconds left to act
BigGreenBag calls 330
Dian1017 folds
muecke81 folds
*** FLOP *** [6c Kd Jd]
BigGreenBag checks
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro bets 420
BigGreenBag raises to 840
nikedunklowpro raises to 1,500, and is all in
BigGreenBag calls 550, and is all in
nikedunklowpro shows [Ah As]
BigGreenBag shows [Js Jc]
Uncalled bet of 110 returned to nikedunklowpro
*** TURN *** [6c Kd Jd] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [6c Kd Jd 5c] [3h]
nikedunklowpro shows a pair of Aces
BigGreenBag shows three of a kind, Jacks
BigGreenBag wins the pot (3,845) with three of a kind, Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,845 | Rake 0
Board: [6c Kd Jd 5c 3h]
Seat 1: Krouskoupf1A didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: nikedunklowpro (button) showed [Ah As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: Kozzy23 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: kata69290 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: BigGreenBag showed [Js Jc] and won (3,845) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 6: Dian1017 folded before the Flop
Seat 7: T Mills 7 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: MeanJG didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: muecke81 folded before the Flop

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 6:06 PM. Reason : /]

[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 6:10 PM. Reason : /]

1/9/2009 5:57:10 PM

FeebleMinded
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Yay I got my account back.

1/9/2009 11:28:42 PM

David0603
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Wow. I couldn't have played the queens worse if I tried.

PokerStars Game #23797706500: Tournament #131672617, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (25/50) - 2009/01/11 12:46:16 ET
Table '131672617 354' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: david0603 (10000 in chips)
Seat 2: Prof.ChaoZ (9975 in chips)
Seat 3: htman99 (9925 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: lilli1975 (10025 in chips)
Seat 5: AcEGoDD (10000 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: dikkechill (10000 in chips)
Seat 9: Gibb Stutz (10075 in chips)
lilli1975: posts small blind 25
AcEGoDD: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [2h 8h]
dikkechill: folds
Gibb Stutz: folds
david0603: folds
Prof.ChaoZ: raises 100 to 150
htman99: folds
lilli1975: raises 150 to 300
AcEGoDD: folds
Prof.ChaoZ: raises 1000 to 1300
lilli1975: calls 1000
*** FLOP *** [5d Kd 4s]
lilli1975: checks
Prof.ChaoZ: bets 1650
lilli1975: calls 1650
*** TURN *** [5d Kd 4s] [Th]
lilli1975: checks
Prof.ChaoZ: bets 2800
lilli1975: calls 2800
*** RIVER *** [5d Kd 4s Th] [7h]
lilli1975: bets 4275 and is all-in
Prof.ChaoZ: calls 4225 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (50) returned to lilli1975
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lilli1975: shows [Qc Qh] (a pair of Queens)
Prof.ChaoZ: shows [Ks Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
Prof.ChaoZ collected 20000 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 20000 | Rake 0
Board [5d Kd 4s Th 7h]
Seat 1: david0603 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Prof.ChaoZ showed [Ks Kh] and won (20000) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 3: htman99 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: lilli1975 (small blind) showed [Qc Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: AcEGoDD (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: dikkechill folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Gibb Stutz folded before Flop (didn't bet)

1/11/2009 12:48:25 PM

David0603
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Eugh. Awesome start to the day.

PokerStars Game #23800023087: Tournament #131672617, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (200/400) - 2009/01/11 13:57:19 ET
Table '131672617 354' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: david0603 (9875 in chips)
Seat 2: Prof.ChaoZ (27400 in chips)
Seat 3: htman99 (3950 in chips)
Seat 4: RegBarclay (12650 in chips)
Seat 6: snowbird4567 (29525 in chips)
Seat 7: dikkechill (21750 in chips)
Seat 8: Deerboy (19850 in chips)
Seat 9: Gibb Stutz (7150 in chips)
Gibb Stutz: posts small blind 200
david0603: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [Ks Kc]
NewBornBaby is connected
Prof.ChaoZ: folds
htman99: folds
RegBarclay: folds
snowbird4567: folds
dikkechill: raises 700 to 1100
Deerboy: folds
Gibb Stutz: folds
david0603: raises 8775 to 9875 and is all-in
dikkechill: calls 8775
*** FLOP *** [5s 2s Jc]
*** TURN *** [5s 2s Jc] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [5s 2s Jc Qs] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
david0603: shows [Ks Kc] (a pair of Kings)
dikkechill: shows [Ah As] (a pair of Aces)
dikkechill collected 19950 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19950 | Rake 0
Board [5s 2s Jc Qs 4c]
Seat 1: david0603 (big blind) showed [Ks Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: Prof.ChaoZ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: htman99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: RegBarclay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: snowbird4567 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: dikkechill showed [Ah As] and won (19950) with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: Deerboy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Gibb Stutz (small blind) folded before Flop

1/11/2009 1:59:34 PM

David0603
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It never gets old.

PokerStars Game #23805612015: Tournament #131669903, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (50/100) - 2009/01/11 16:56:28 ET
Table '131669903 644' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Agut (7650 in chips)
Seat 2: EdMe31 (9900 in chips)
Seat 5: hadii (9475 in chips)
Seat 6: tokatli (9800 in chips)
Seat 7: pogari (9250 in chips)
Seat 8: david0603 (12275 in chips)
Seat 9: football0000 (11650 in chips)
Agut: posts small blind 50
EdMe31: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [Ah As]
hadii: folds
tokatli: folds
pogari: folds
david0603: raises 150 to 250
football0000: raises 450 to 700
Agut: folds
EdMe31: folds
david0603: raises 1400 to 2100
football0000: calls 1400
*** FLOP *** [7s 3s Qc]
david0603: bets 2700
football0000: raises 2700 to 5400
david0603: raises 4775 to 10175 and is all-in
football0000: calls 4150 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (625) returned to david0603
*** TURN *** [7s 3s Qc] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [7s 3s Qc Ts] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
david0603: shows [Ah As] (a flush, Ace high)
football0000: shows [4c Qh] (three of a kind, Queens)
david0603 collected 23450 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 23450 | Rake 0
Board [7s 3s Qc Ts Qs]
Seat 1: Agut (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: EdMe31 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: hadii folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tokatli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pogari folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: david0603 showed [Ah As] and won (23450) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 9: football0000 (button) showed [4c Qh] and lost with three of a kind, Queens

1/11/2009 5:01:07 PM

JLaird
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I never understand how people that terrible manage to pony up the BI or earn the FPPs to play in that

1/12/2009 11:02:12 AM

David0603
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Must be from satellites.

1/12/2009 11:19:27 AM

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I dunno. Not that it was a good play at all, but how do you determine if it's some guy who just whiffed with A4 offsuit (or worse) and is just trying to buy the pot or someone with a truly decent hand?

1/12/2009 11:23:57 AM

David0603
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I'd say the 21 BB 3 bet was a pretty good indicator.

1/12/2009 11:31:59 AM

IMStoned420
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I know it's a long shot but does anyone know about a game or anything tonight? Or a listing of places that play?

1/15/2009 7:29:21 PM

prep-e
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check your inbox

1/15/2009 7:48:14 PM

anonymous
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just finished 2nd in a stars $2 tournament and won $208
tournament #133127382
817 entrants
last hand was queens vs kings so i got a little unlucky

1/16/2009 7:59:25 AM

prep-e
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need some input on this hand. I was trying to raise to 1200 preflop but my timer was getting low and I couldn't get it right. whatever. I figure he has a small pair or KQ, QJ, etc. I just hate cbetting this flop bc it's almost inevitable he will check raise all in.

Full Tilt Poker Game #10086341993: Midnight Madness! (75657680), Table 174 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:31:58 ET - 2009/01/17
Seat 1: meunlucky (5,093)
Seat 2: Eduardo5 (2,114)
Seat 3: nikedunklowpro (14,017)
Seat 4: weddly (2,408)
Seat 5: JSAV722 (4,633)
Seat 6: lisphimatt (4,105)
Seat 7: pfunk41 (9,092)
Seat 8: bigka79 (2,298)
Seat 9: glenn54 (7,960)
weddly posts the small blind of 100
JSAV722 posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Ac Ks]
lisphimatt folds
pfunk41 folds
bigka79 folds
glenn54 folds
meunlucky raises to 400
Eduardo5 folds
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro raises to 1,000
weddly folds
JSAV722 folds
meunlucky calls 600
*** FLOP *** [5s Qd 4c]
meunlucky checks
nikedunklowpro checks
*** TURN *** [5s Qd 4c] [Th]
meunlucky has 15 seconds left to act
meunlucky bets 1,400
nikedunklowpro folds
Uncalled bet of 1,400 returned to meunlucky
meunlucky mucks
meunlucky wins the pot (2,300)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,300 | Rake 0
Board: [5s Qd 4c Th]
Seat 1: meunlucky collected (2,300), mucked
Seat 2: Eduardo5 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: nikedunklowpro (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: weddly (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: JSAV722 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: lisphimatt didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: pfunk41 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: bigka79 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: glenn54 didn't bet (folded)

1/17/2009 1:42:21 AM

prep-e
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why me God???

Full Tilt Poker Game #10086940464: Midnight Madness! (75657680), Table 121 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:20:10 ET - 2009/01/17
Seat 1: Nit2wnit27 (11,260)
Seat 2: leonardo1969 (3,042)
Seat 3: LJensen_MT (8,067)
Seat 4: Mordenkain (12,235)
Seat 5: thaitran (26,915)
Seat 6: rgibbs22 (8,656)
Seat 7: nikedunklowpro (13,129)
Seat 9: leaflover (3,910)
Nit2wnit27 antes 50
leonardo1969 antes 50
LJensen_MT antes 50
Mordenkain antes 50
thaitran antes 50
rgibbs22 antes 50
nikedunklowpro antes 50
leaflover antes 50
leaflover posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Js Ks]
Nit2wnit27 folds
leonardo1969 folds
LJensen_MT folds
Mordenkain folds
thaitran folds
rgibbs22 folds
nikedunklowpro raises to 1,500
Nit2wnit27: lucky i folded
leaflover raises to 3,860, and is all in
nikedunklowpro calls 2,360
leaflover shows [Tc Qd]
nikedunklowpro shows [Js Ks]
*** FLOP *** [2h 8c 7c]
Nit2wnit27: nice bet
*** TURN *** [2h 8c 7c] [6c]
*** RIVER *** [2h 8c 7c 6c] [9s]
leaflover shows a straight, Ten high
nikedunklowpro shows King Jack high
leaflover wins the pot (8,120) with a straight, Ten high
rgibbs22: thats kinda why I went all in
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8,120 | Rake 0
Board: [2h 8c 7c 6c 9s]
Seat 1: Nit2wnit27 folded before the Flop
Seat 2: leonardo1969 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: LJensen_MT folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Mordenkain folded before the Flop
Seat 5: thaitran folded before the Flop
Seat 6: rgibbs22 folded before the Flop
Seat 7: nikedunklowpro (button) showed [Js Ks] and lost with King Jack high
Seat 9: leaflover (big blind) showed [Tc Qd] and won (8,120) with a straight, Ten high

Full Tilt Poker Game #10086962007: Midnight Madness! (75657680), Table 121 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:22:01 ET - 2009/01/17
Seat 1: Nit2wnit27 (10,360)
Seat 2: leonardo1969 (2,392)
Seat 3: LJensen_MT (9,067)
Seat 4: Mordenkain (12,085)
Seat 5: thaitran (26,765)
Seat 6: rgibbs22 (8,506)
Seat 7: nikedunklowpro (10,319)
Seat 8: MskyBks51 (14,526)
Seat 9: leaflover (7,770)
Nit2wnit27 antes 50
leonardo1969 antes 50
LJensen_MT antes 50
Mordenkain antes 50
thaitran antes 50
rgibbs22 antes 50
nikedunklowpro antes 50
MskyBks51 antes 50
leaflover antes 50
leonardo1969 posts the small blind of 250
LJensen_MT posts the big blind of 500
rgibbs22: uh huh
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [As Kh]
Mordenkain folds
thaitran folds
Nit2wnit27: haha
rgibbs22 folds
Nit2wnit27: shhhh...i dont bluff
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro raises to 10,269, and is all in
MskyBks51 folds
leaflover folds
Nit2wnit27 folds
leonardo1969 calls 2,092, and is all in
LJensen_MT folds
nikedunklowpro shows [As Kh]
leonardo1969 shows [Kd 2d]
Uncalled bet of 7,927 returned to nikedunklowpro
*** FLOP *** [Tc 4d 2s]
rgibbs22: somethings tight but it's not your play ;op
*** TURN *** [Tc 4d 2s] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 4d 2s 4c] [8h]
nikedunklowpro shows a pair of Fours
leonardo1969 shows two pair, Fours and Twos
leonardo1969 wins the pot (5,634) with two pair, Fours and Twos
nikedunklowpro: idiot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,634 | Rake 0
Board: [Tc 4d 2s 4c 8h]
Seat 1: Nit2wnit27 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: leonardo1969 (small blind) showed [Kd 2d] and won (5,634) with two pair, Fours and Twos
Seat 3: LJensen_MT (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Mordenkain folded before the Flop
Seat 5: thaitran folded before the Flop
Seat 6: rgibbs22 folded before the Flop
Seat 7: nikedunklowpro showed [As Kh] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 8: MskyBks51 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: leaflover folded before the Flop

Full Tilt Poker Game #10087022970: Midnight Madness! (75657680), Table 121 - 300/600 Ante 75 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:27:22 ET - 2009/01/17
Seat 1: Nit2wnit27 (10,410)
Seat 2: leonardo1969 (4,459)
Seat 3: LJensen_MT (8,892)
Seat 4: Mordenkain (12,235)
Seat 5: thaitran (28,390)
Seat 6: rgibbs22 (8,556)
Seat 7: nikedunklowpro (6,452)
Seat 8: MskyBks51 (16,151)
Seat 9: leaflover (6,245)
Nit2wnit27 antes 75
leonardo1969 antes 75
LJensen_MT antes 75
Mordenkain antes 75
thaitran antes 75
rgibbs22 antes 75
nikedunklowpro antes 75
MskyBks51 antes 75
leaflover antes 75
leonardo1969 posts the small blind of 300
LJensen_MT posts the big blind of 600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [6c 6d]
Mordenkain folds
thaitran folds
rgibbs22 raises to 1,200
nikedunklowpro raises to 6,377, and is all in
MskyBks51 folds
leaflover folds
Nit2wnit27 folds
leonardo1969 folds
LJensen_MT folds
rgibbs22 calls 5,177
nikedunklowpro shows [6c 6d]
rgibbs22 shows [Ah Jh]
*** FLOP *** [7h 2h 7d]
*** TURN *** [7h 2h 7d] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [7h 2h 7d Ad] [Jd]
nikedunklowpro shows two pair, Sevens and Sixes
rgibbs22 shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
rgibbs22 wins the pot (14,329) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
nikedunklowpro stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14,329 | Rake 0
Board: [7h 2h 7d Ad Jd]
Seat 1: Nit2wnit27 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: leonardo1969 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: LJensen_MT (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Mordenkain folded before the Flop
Seat 5: thaitran folded before the Flop
Seat 6: rgibbs22 showed [Ah Jh] and won (14,329) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 7: nikedunklowpro showed [6c 6d] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Sixes
Seat 8: MskyBks51 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: leaflover folded before the Flop

1/17/2009 2:39:52 AM

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I learned this lesson a long time ago. Don't put all your money in pre-flop if you can help it. I mean, you're gonna lose eventually, even if you are a huge favorite everytime (which on a couple of those hands, you were only slightly favored.)

It really used to bother me to fold a hand preflop when I really felt like I was ahead, but I came to learn that in the long run I can just outplay them after the flop and not have to committ my stack.

Think of it this way, even if you are a 79% favorite to win every hand that you push all-in preflop, you are NOT favored to win 3 hands in a row.

1/17/2009 3:23:45 AM

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anyone going to be at the borgata winter open this weekend? making a trip up there in a few and figured i would ask! im the brown guy in a checkered shirt, blue ibm hoodie, and beige cargo pants... i know some of the old tww players used to go up, would be good to see you guys...

1/17/2009 5:20:32 AM

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^^ That is not very good thinking. I understand what you mean about "outplaying" people postflop, but not wanting to get it in PF (aside from maybe the early levels of a tourny/sng) a strong favorite is entirely results oriented and you're missing a ton of value.

1/17/2009 1:18:42 PM

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I am not saying I never want to get it in preflop. I would almost NEVER throw away a hand where I was an 80/20 favorite to win, I was just giving those numbers as an example. What I would do, and very frequently do is fold very big hands preflop, even when I think I am way ahead. Or fold marginal hands preflop even if I think or no I am slightly ahead.

Just as a reference point, what would you do in the following situation.

5 people left in a tourney, 100,000 total chips. You have 20k, as do 2 other people. Another guy has 5k, the leader has 35k. Blinds are 500/1000, you look down at QQ, and pop it up to 2500. Everyone folds except the BB, who reraises to 6000. He says you can look at either one of his cards, which you do, and it is a K. What do you do, assuming you have no read on this guy whatsoever, and basing your choice only on probability.

Same scenario as above, except you have KK and the guy flips over an A. Is your move the same?

1/17/2009 3:02:24 PM

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^^your thinking is very flawed. I recommend you read a book on tourney strategy, as it will open your eyes to a lot of valuable information.

also i'm never folding qq just because i think the playe has ak. Take your equity and you'll succeed in the long run

[Edited on January 17, 2009 at 4:49 PM. Reason : ...]

1/17/2009 4:43:50 PM

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Quote :
"^^your thinking is very flawed. I recommend you read a book on tourney strategy, as it will open your eyes to a lot of valuable information.

also i'm never folding qq just because i think the playe has ak. Take your equity and you'll succeed in the long run"


lee8431 I am not sure who you are talking to there. Your arrows indicate JLaird but you kinda seem like you are talking to me.

All I can say is this. I do very well in tournaments, both online and even moreso in real life. I do not just think the way I play works, I KNOW the way I play works. I am not saying this to sound conceited or anything like that, it is simply a fact. I have made over $10,000 online playing no higher than $10 buy-in sit-n-gos and $50 cash games, with the occasional low-limit MTT thrown in the mix. I have no idea how much i have won in real life, but it is way more than that, and unfortunately with my wife and job, I don't even get to play that much (I don't think I've played in over a year).

That being said, to say you would NEVER fold QQ just because you think your opponent has AK is ludicris. Would you fold JJ? 88? 22? All those hands are very similar in percentages, with QQ being about 56% and 22 being 52%... the percentages drop as your chance of being counterfeited increases, but that is the only difference. If you want to play 4 hours of a MTT just to risk your game on a coin flip, be my guest, but it's not the smart play in the long run.

1/17/2009 7:51:33 PM

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^^^^Hi

I wish I would have known you were going! I haven't been in forever. I have made it out a few times since that time we went with you.

Next time I will be sure to let you know.

1/17/2009 7:54:31 PM

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^^I agree with your logic, usually the only time I go all in with a coinflip situation is if I'm getting short stacked in a MTT and need to "double up or go home" or if I think I've got good fold equity against the player I'm re-raising.

1/17/2009 11:51:02 PM

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I have to agree with Jim on this one. I can't count the # of times I've folded AK in the past few weeks only to see some guy flip up 55 on a ballsy play. I can outplay these guys postflip, so I'm not trying to put a 50 bb pot on a coinflip.

1/18/2009 2:27:08 AM

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Fanfuckingtastic

PokerStars Game #24031500384: Tournament #132771032, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (300/600) - 2009/01/18 14:16:01 ET
Table '132771032 143' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: david0603 (5125 in chips)
Seat 2: AFCAJAX (11442 in chips)
Seat 3: Papio Papio (12710 in chips)
Seat 4: molsen82 (5346 in chips)
Seat 5: Mescalin8 (5637 in chips)
Seat 6: Pesad007 (37150 in chips)
Seat 7: Dragonfly474 (12320 in chips)
Seat 8: TrampM (10925 in chips)
Seat 9: Phoenician88 (15630 in chips)
TrampM: posts small blind 300
Phoenician88: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [Qc Qs]
david0603: raises 4525 to 5125 and is all-in
AFCAJAX: folds
Papio Papio: folds
molsen82: folds
Mescalin8: folds
Pesad007: folds
Dragonfly474: calls 5125
TrampM: folds
Phoenician88: folds
*** FLOP *** [6c Tc 7h]
*** TURN *** [6c Tc 7h] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [6c Tc 7h Qd] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
david0603: shows [Qc Qs] (three of a kind, Queens)
Dragonfly474: shows [9h 8h] (a straight, Six to Ten)
Dragonfly474 collected 11150 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11150 | Rake 0
Board [6c Tc 7h Qd 4c]
Seat 1: david0603 showed [Qc Qs] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 2: AFCAJAX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Papio Papio folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: molsen82 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Mescalin8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Pesad007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Dragonfly474 (button) showed [9h 8h] and won (11150) with a straight, Six to Ten
Seat 8: TrampM (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Phoenician88 (big blind) folded before Flop

1/18/2009 2:17:15 PM

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That's fine. I didn't want to play poker today anyway.

PokerStars Game #24031642817: Tournament #132775816, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/01/18 14:20:22 ET
Table '132775816 90' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: stiCKypiFF14 (1715 in chips)
Seat 2: Gourlay (8560 in chips)
Seat 3: kabutty (8408 in chips)
Seat 4: BankPlus (6995 in chips)
Seat 5: spezialburge (4660 in chips)
Seat 6: redpimpNL (3087 in chips)
Seat 7: WhatArunAA (6609 in chips)
Seat 8: mx4ever (2407 in chips)
Seat 9: david0603 (929 in chips)
david0603: posts small blind 75
stiCKypiFF14: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [Tc Ts]
Gourlay: folds
kabutty: folds
BankPlus: folds
spezialburge: calls 150
redpimpNL: raises 300 to 450
WhatArunAA: folds
mx4ever: folds
david0603: raises 479 to 929 and is all-in
stiCKypiFF14: folds
spezialburge: calls 779
redpimpNL: calls 479
*** FLOP *** [Qc 9s 5d]
spezialburge: checks
redpimpNL: checks
*** TURN *** [Qc 9s 5d] [8h]
spezialburge: checks
redpimpNL: bets 900
spezialburge: folds
Uncalled bet (900) returned to redpimpNL
*** RIVER *** [Qc 9s 5d 8h] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
david0603: shows [Tc Ts] (a pair of Tens)
redpimpNL: shows [9d 9c] (three of a kind, Nines)
redpimpNL collected 2937 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2937 | Rake 0
Board [Qc 9s 5d 8h Kc]
Seat 1: stiCKypiFF14 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Gourlay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kabutty folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BankPlus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: spezialburge folded on the Turn
Seat 6: redpimpNL showed [9d 9c] and won (2937) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 7: WhatArunAA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mx4ever (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: david0603 (small blind) showed [Tc Ts] and lost with a pair of Tens

1/18/2009 2:23:13 PM

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^^
that one is insane. I can't believe how moronic some people can be.

1/18/2009 2:31:00 PM

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Yeah, almost 9bbs, nearly half his stack. He knows best fucking case scenario is a coinflip.

Worst start ever!

Full Tilt Poker Game #10114401492: $18,000 Guarantee (1r+1a) (76599807), Table 42 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:29:09 ET - 2009/01/18
Seat 1: NEONPILS99 (2,760)
Seat 2: david0603 (2,675)
Seat 3: Hamza benj (2,495)
Seat 4: no not baxter (2,865)
Seat 5: Big_Lou-Aces (940)
Seat 6: SweetOne303 (7,470)
Seat 7: I CaioPimenta I (2,105)
Seat 8: storeslem (1,715)
Seat 9: The Yid (2,365)
no not baxter posts the small blind of 30
Big_Lou-Aces posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [Qc Qs]
SweetOne303 folds
I CaioPimenta I folds
storeslem folds
The Yid folds
NEONPILS99 folds
david0603 raises to 150
Hamza benj folds
no not baxter folds
Big_Lou-Aces calls 90
*** FLOP *** [5h Jd 9s]
Big_Lou-Aces checks
david0603 has 15 seconds left to act
david0603 bets 200
Big_Lou-Aces calls 200
*** TURN *** [5h Jd 9s] [7d]
Big_Lou-Aces bets 590, and is all in
david0603 calls 590
Big_Lou-Aces shows [9c 9d]
david0603 shows [Qc Qs]
*** RIVER *** [5h Jd 9s 7d] [Js]
Big_Lou-Aces shows a full house, Nines full of Jacks
david0603 shows two pair, Queens and Jacks
Big_Lou-Aces wins the pot (1,910) with a full house, Nines full of Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,910 | Rake 0
Board: [5h Jd 9s 7d Js]
Seat 1: NEONPILS99 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: david0603 showed [Qc Qs] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 3: Hamza benj (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: no not baxter (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Big_Lou-Aces (big blind) showed [9c 9d] and won (1,910) with a full house, Nines full of Jacks
Seat 6: SweetOne303 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: I CaioPimenta I didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: storeslem didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: The Yid didn't bet (folded)

1/18/2009 2:32:08 PM

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Great. All I have to do is get quads every time I feel like winning a nice pot.

Full Tilt Poker Game #10115467223: $50,000 Guarantee (75952669), Table 80 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:25:56 ET - 2009/01/18
Seat 1: donktracy (3,320)
Seat 2: Palau777 (3,010)
Seat 3: lucky_aces08 (2,150)
Seat 4: luckbox (7,205)
Seat 5: RandomDonk (3,840)
Seat 6: david0603 (2,925)
Seat 7: Jared White (1,515)
Seat 8: ALLOFIT29 (2,955)
Seat 9: 2Much4U_08 (2,950)
Palau777 posts the small blind of 20
lucky_aces08 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [5c 5h]
luckbox folds
RandomDonk folds
david0603 calls 40
Jared White folds
ALLOFIT29 folds
2Much4U_08 has 15 seconds left to act
2Much4U_08 folds
donktracy folds
Palau777 calls 20
lucky_aces08 has 15 seconds left to act
lucky_aces08 checks
*** FLOP *** [2c 5s Jh]
Palau777 has 15 seconds left to act
Palau777 bets 120
lucky_aces08 folds
david0603 calls 120
*** TURN *** [2c 5s Jh] [5d]
Palau777 bets 360
david0603 calls 360
*** RIVER *** [2c 5s Jh 5d] [3h]
Palau777 has 15 seconds left to act
Palau777 bets 1,080
david0603 raises to 2,405, and is all in
Palau777 has 15 seconds left to act
Palau777 calls 1,325
*** SHOW DOWN ***
david0603 shows [5c 5h] four of a kind, Fives
Palau777 mucks
david0603 wins the pot (5,890) with four of a kind, Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,890 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 5s Jh 5d 3h]
Seat 1: donktracy (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Palau777 (small blind) mucked [Jc Ks] - two pair, Jacks and Fives
Seat 3: lucky_aces08 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: luckbox didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: RandomDonk didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: david0603 showed [5c 5h] and won (5,890) with four of a kind, Fives
Seat 7: Jared White didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: ALLOFIT29 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: 2Much4U_08 didn't bet (folded)

1/18/2009 3:28:45 PM

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I bitch a lot on Sundays but I've run worse today than I have ever before.

Full Tilt Poker Game #10118619429: $1 Million Guarantee (72661445), Table 228 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:17:01 ET - 2009/01/18
Seat 2: changeover (4,520)
Seat 3: slonik21 (6,050)
Seat 4: Bortzork (5,500)
Seat 5: david0603 (4,610)
Seat 6: Guithome (6,095)
Seat 7: theghstrider (5,135)
Seat 8: doctoro (4,825)
Seat 9: bigholecards (3,265)
Bortzork posts the small blind of 20
david0603 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [Ac As]
Guithome folds
theghstrider calls 40
doctoro folds
bigholecards raises to 160
changeover folds
slonik21 folds
Bortzork folds
david0603 has 15 seconds left to act
david0603 raises to 480
theghstrider folds
bigholecards calls 320
*** FLOP *** [3d 2d Ks]
david0603 bets 650
bigholecards has 15 seconds left to act
bigholecards calls 650
*** TURN *** [3d 2d Ks] [5s]
david0603 bets 2,520
bigholecards calls 2,135, and is all in
david0603 shows [Ac As]
bigholecards shows [Ad Kd]
Uncalled bet of 385 returned to david0603
*** RIVER *** [3d 2d Ks 5s] [5d]
david0603 shows two pair, Aces and Fives
bigholecards shows a flush, Ace high
bigholecards wins the pot (6,590) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6,590 | Rake 0
Board: [3d 2d Ks 5s 5d]
Seat 2: changeover didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: slonik21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Bortzork (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: david0603 (big blind) showed [Ac As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 6: Guithome didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: theghstrider folded before the Flop
Seat 8: doctoro didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: bigholecards showed [Ad Kd] and won (6,590) with a flush, Ace high

1/18/2009 6:26:06 PM

prep-e
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just broke my laptop

time to take a break from poker

1/18/2009 8:03:10 PM

David0603
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haha. What did you do?

1/18/2009 8:06:55 PM

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1/18/2009 9:44:16 PM

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ewww

1/19/2009 4:07:41 PM

stone
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any good place to play 21? i play when i am in new orleans or vegas. looking for a good line place.

1/19/2009 8:31:47 PM

David0603
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old vegas/fremont street

1/19/2009 9:56:53 PM

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Hey who still goes to Atlantic City? Now that I'm back on the east coast, I'd like to go again. It would be kinda fun to organize a TWW trip so I can see some of you jackasses very cool people again.

1/20/2009 1:46:05 AM

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I'm down if we can get a good deal on a 3-5 day trip

1/20/2009 3:14:47 AM

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Eh, not sure if I could go back after being to Vegas. It was just so much better.

1/20/2009 8:06:58 AM

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I go on the sun cruz casino in Little River/Myrtle beach SC

kinda fun if its a fri or sat night... and i usually do very well

1/20/2009 6:13:48 PM

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yea, i hear those poker cruises are where it's at.

1/21/2009 8:45:40 PM

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yo david i was wondering how often you play those large buy-in games? and how much you actually have in your PS balance to be comfortable playing those games

1/22/2009 3:20:40 PM

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My account balance is low at the moment, but I've heard you should have between 50-100 X your avg tournament buy in for large mtts.

http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-articles/Basic-Bankroll-Management-2425952

1/22/2009 3:43:07 PM

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i have been playing for years but never seriously online. i put $40 in a PS account a few years ago and just played once a month or so. my balance always ranged between $20-$80
recently i have decided to actually play seriously and have been playing 1-3 tournaments a day. i had a bad run about 2 months ago and my balance was down under $10.
last week i played in a $2 tournament and finished 2nd and won over 200. then i played a $3 and finished 7th and got about 110$. then felt ballsy and played a $10 and won $50 (should have been more but my AK got runner runnered for a jack high flush....)
so now i have almost 400 in my acnt
i feel like for right now i should stick to $5 BI games until i get over 7 or 800
but i would eventually like the ability to play higher BI games

1/22/2009 6:11:09 PM

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