http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/05/opinion/nocera-academic-counseling-racket.html?_r=1&

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"Among the first classes he was “assigned” (as he phrases it) was a Swahili course, an “independent studies” class taught by the department chairman, Julius Nyang’oro. “There wasn’t any class,” McAdoo recalled. “You sign up. You write the paper. You get credit. I had never seen anything like it.” He never once met his professor. Despite the strange circumstances, he researched and wrote the paper. It was that paper that got him in the trouble with the N.C.A.A."

can we put this on a billboard?

Quote :

"“I would still like to get a college degree someday,” he said. “But not at the University of North Carolina. They just wasted my time.” "

2/5/2013 11:37:31 AM

man that guy really hates the NCAA so much that he forgets to mention that while McAdoo, God bless his soul, may have been steered to some easy no show classes he also tried to pass off someone else's work for his own. If the NCAA is a bully as this article opines it's a limp wristed sissy slapping bully for the sactions unx received.

2/5/2013 1:08:16 PM

It doesn't matter now if McAdoo is a victim or not. There is now "proof" that the academic counselors directed the athletes to these no show, no prof, paper-only classes. This should surely get the NCAA back to Chapel Hill. But it probably won't happen

2/5/2013 1:11:27 PM

Quote :

"The paper classes were eventually exposed by The News & Observer Pack Pride,..."

FTFY

2/5/2013 1:16:01 PM

can we put this on a billboard?

Quote :

""“I would still like to get a college degree someday,” he said. “But not at the University of North Carolina. They just wasted my time.” ""

[Edited on February 5, 2013 at 2:19 PM. Reason : ]

2/5/2013 2:18:43 PM

Quote :

"I would still like to get a college degree someday,” he said. “But not at the University of North Carolina. They just wasted my time."

Hey this thing. Can we position it somewhere such that people in vehicles might be able to see it whilst driving?

2/5/2013 2:27:06 PM

Put it on a billboard right next to this

2/5/2013 2:27:30 PM

I would donate money towards someone getting a billboard with that quote

2/5/2013 3:04:36 PM

Quote :

"Quinton Coples ?@QueCeasar God gives the hardest battles to his strongest solders..... Retweeted by Erik Highsmith"

2/5/2013 4:18:39 PM

Today we are all solders

2/5/2013 4:34:03 PM

Quote :

"According to McAdoo, his counselor picked his major, African-American studies, because it wouldn’t interfere with football practice."

Nope not steering

2/5/2013 7:00:41 PM

Quote :

"Despite the strange circumstances, he researched copied and wrote pasted the paper"

2/6/2013 12:19:50 PM

Signing day at Carolina, where the football and basketball teams all sign the papers that tutors wrote and turn them into Dr Nyang'oro.

2/6/2013 12:23:36 PM

Quote :

"Joe Ovies ?@joeovies Flawless. RT @InsideCarolina: Larry Fedora references winning the ACC Coastal Division championship during his ESPN interview."

Seriously though, they can't just be allowed to keep doing this right?

2/6/2013 12:55:08 PM

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/mcadoo-says-he-was-steered-to-afam/12073165/

2/6/2013 12:57:29 PM

Hope WRAL covers this on TV too

2/6/2013 1:13:52 PM

I was grabbing lunch and had 99.9 on the radio right when Fedora came on to talk with David Glenn. Holy crap, that guy really grates my nerves. I couldn't listen for more than a minute because the douchebaggery was overwhelming.

I believe Doeren is scheduled for 2:35.

2/6/2013 1:30:28 PM

It's like he is trolling to see what the NCAA will let him get away with still so the cheating can continue.

2/6/2013 1:36:09 PM

^^ Yeah but what about Fedora

2/6/2013 1:36:56 PM

Fedora didn't say anything about his recruits being able to read...

2/6/2013 7:09:58 PM

NC universities panel to weigh in on UNC scandal
Feb 7, 2013 7:36 a.m.


CHAPEL HILL, N.C.—A panel looking into how the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill allowed and responded to an academic fraud scandal is getting a chance to speak.

Part of the governing board for the state university system weighs in Thursday on the scandal that led to the resignation of Chancellor Holden Thorp and departure of football coach Butch Davis.

The scandal involves dozens of courses in UNC-Chapel Hill's Department of African and Afro-American Studies where instructors did not teach, grades were changed and grade reports were faked over more than a decade.

An investigation led by former Gov. Jim Martin and aided by consultants says there's no evidence student-athletes gained more than others from the academic fraud that began in 1997.

2/7/2013 8:06:47 AM

^http://www.wral.com/nc-universities-panel-to-weigh-in-on-unc-scandal/12076346/

2/7/2013 10:34:18 AM

Quote :

"A panel overseeing how the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill allowed and responded to academic fraud says it was not able to get to the bottom of every detail, but accepts earlier investigations that cleared athletics officials."

Bullshit!

2/7/2013 11:02:20 AM

Yeah so they still insist that this ONE PROFESSOR just decided ON HIS OWN to produce fake no show classes for anyone and everyone that wanted to take them and NO ONE questioned the practice for over 14 years.

2/7/2013 12:01:27 PM

Quote :

""It's inconceivable" that only the two of them were involved, Burley Mitchell, board member and former chief justice of North Carolina, said Thursday."

http://www.wral.com/unc-system-panel-supports-findings-in-academic-scandal/12077447/

2/7/2013 2:05:19 PM

NC State dragged into it now. We all knew this was coming:

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"As a result of the scandal, the panel said Thursday it will make several recommendations to help other UNC System schools to avoid similar issues. "

Yeah, if something like this happened at God's alma mater(even though there really isn't a problem, right?) it must be going on at other schools. Now UNC isn't just overcoming adversity, through them the other NC schools will be better!

Fuck UNC

2/7/2013 3:13:33 PM

It is just unfathomable how obvious this shit is and yet they continue to say "nothing to see here no big deal" If you went up in front of a real judge and tried to say this shit he would not only laugh at you but probably double your sentence because someone that stupid shouldnt be allowed to interact with other people.

2/7/2013 3:36:22 PM

Public Humiliation...

abase, abash, base, bemean, blister, break, bring down, bring low, cast down, chagrin, chasten, confound, confuse, conquer, crush*, cut down to size, debase, degrade, demean, denigrate, deny, depress, discomfit, discountenance, disgrace, dishonor, downplay, humble, lower, make a fool of, make ashamed, mortify, pan, play down, put out of countenance, put to shame, rip*, run down, shame, shoot down, slam*, smear, snub, squash, subdue, take down a peg, take down, tear down, vanquish, wither

The administrative path has failed. Now, we know where all those liberal arts majors found jobs.

Public scorn.

EMBARRASS THEM!!!!!!

There should be no end to the efforts we put forth in order to undermine the carolina way.

Down with the bloody blue heads!!!!!!!!!!!

2/8/2013 8:23:16 AM

^

Please email your nearest congressman and demand for action/investigation against UNC. This is taxpayers' money in question here.

2/8/2013 5:46:51 PM

Email a politician?

Seriously?

This is why you guys are always behind and below carolina. You keep trying to play the game by their rules.

You have to change the game.

Go read civil disobedience by thoreau.

2/9/2013 8:10:01 AM

^On the other hand, you're an ECU fan.

2/9/2013 8:15:19 AM

http://deadspin.com/5982996/at-unc-one-of-the-worst-academic-fraud-cases-in-american-history-has-been-traced-back-to-one-guy

2/11/2013 10:32:36 AM

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/02/12/2675141/accrediting-agency-wants-clear.html#storylink=omni_popular#wgt=pop

SACS accrediting agency looking into shady practices and will possibly put the school on probation. Sounds like these guys are actually serious about integrity, but I won't get my hopes up.

2/13/2013 11:24:08 AM

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"CircleBreaker and 3 more Reply Deadspin's on the wrong side of the story here. Y'all should be looking into Dan Kane and John Drescher, not cheerleading them."

haha

2/13/2013 11:33:43 AM

^I read the Deadspin article last night and that stupid fucking comment, but didn't feel like bttt this thread just to post that. Since somebody else did though, fuck that Tarhole.

2/13/2013 12:13:56 PM

From the N&O and in response to a suggestion that they bring graduates back to legitimize their degrees:

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"“I think it would be a huge challenge,” said Thorp, who added that he doesn’t know the number of graduates who took improperly taught African studies classes."

What? Isn't this what Gov. Martin and the Baker Tilly Firm were supposed to get to the bottom of and what they were so focused on that they didn't look at plagiarism? I might be assuming, but it seems that they have the list of students enrolled in the 200 (or so) classes but do they really not know how many graduated?

This is really what I have been waiting on, accreditation. If they were going with the academic scandal over the athletic scandal, then surely they new this would have to come up eventually. Maybe they thought they could make it go away before their accreditation renewal came around and that the SACS would not bother with it till then. It may just be that it will be easier and/or quieter to deal with than the NCAA. I guess it probably would have come up either way though.

2/13/2013 12:17:20 PM

THATS WHAT IM TALKIN BOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STOMP'EM IN THE THROAT!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Today we are all Blue Devils!!!!!!!!

2/13/2013 12:44:36 PM

Quote :

"Today we are all Blue Devils!!!!!!!!"

2/13/2013 12:59:35 PM

i'm not, don't speak for me (although i will be pulling for duke)

2/13/2013 1:00:40 PM

Priorities
1. Roof collapse
2. Duke Win

2/13/2013 1:02:32 PM

ok, agreed. Outside possible mass deaths ... Duke Win

2/13/2013 1:07:46 PM

i hope K and Roy bump heads during their postgame handshake, both getting concussed and getting amnesia, forgetting how to do everything (recruit, coach, etc)

2/13/2013 1:12:49 PM

Quote :

"Thorp said an independent analysis of UNC-CH’s new academic procedures was not available at the time the commission’s board met in December. That study, by Baker Tilly, found no gaps in implementation of about 70 policy and procedure changes at UNC-CH in the aftermath of the academic scandal, which involved a disproportionate number of athletes."

Hey, Thorp... If you were hoping to use the Baker Tilly report to bolster your claims that you've found and fixed the problems, I would suggest against it, especially since they basically had to retract it...

2/13/2013 1:14:56 PM

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"The outside SACS team will report its findings to the commission board, which could take action in June. A university could receive a warning, or worse, probation. After that could come a loss of accreditation, which likely would mean the death knell for a college or university, because it would no longer eligible to receive federal financial aid dollars. A shutdown would be inevitable. Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/02/12/2675141/accrediting-agency-wants-clear.html#storylink=omni_popular#wgt=pop#storylink=cpy"

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 1:22 PM. Reason : WOOOOOOOO]

2/13/2013 1:21:42 PM

I'll say this... If they lose their accreditation, I'll bet there will be a lot of people who BOYCOTT DA SCHOOOOOOOOOOO

2/13/2013 1:28:01 PM

I wonder if this would just be accreditation for just AFAM, or for the university itself? I know that different departments and schools have separate accreditation from the university. Just hope this wouldn't extend to any grad schools that had nothing to do with this.

2/13/2013 1:33:25 PM

Fuck em. If they're claim is that it's not an athletic issue (even though it clearly is) but an academic issue then let them reap what they sew. Maybe potential loss of accreditation will make them change their tune.

I'm not holding my breath because they're not going to lose accreditation or admit that it was athletics driven.

2/13/2013 1:39:37 PM

hoping for them to lose their accreditation is the ultimate pipe dream

ain't gonna happen

2/13/2013 1:42:01 PM

Since there's so much focus on the NCAA's take on the academic vs. athletic debate, maybe this is a good time for SACS to make a statement from an academic perspective about the priorities of schools. Putting someone like unc on probation could send a few shockwaves to other athlete factories masquerading as institutes of higher education.

2/13/2013 2:10:30 PM

maybe some new evidence will come out that some of their players sold sneakers, then they're sure to get a 3-year postseason ban for all sports

2/13/2013 3:45:48 PM