The lying is taking too much for Thorpe... Mug leaving UNC

2/18/2013 7:30:29 AM

I'm strongly considering taking Washington St Louis off my list of places for grad school.

2/18/2013 7:40:28 AM

^^to elaborate, he stated last fall that he was going to step-down as chancellor in a few months, but also stated he was going to go back to teaching chemistry at unc-ch.

2/18/2013 9:37:07 AM

I'm sure he will have a great little "going away" gift

2/18/2013 11:02:16 AM

His letter

http://www.wral.com/news/education/page/12120620/

2/18/2013 12:38:52 PM

NCAA vp is fired after the botched Miami investigation. No mention of the botched UNC investigation.

2/19/2013 9:47:18 AM

I'm sure it's just hearsay of course, but a Cleveland radio station just reported that UNC has been officially offered to join the big 10.

2/19/2013 4:20:57 PM

so according to the NCAA, having an agent on staff < having a shady booster

not to mention the academic prong

absolutely insane

2/19/2013 10:46:32 PM

according to UNC fans, having a former coach/alum not pay his taxes > institutionalized cheating over 2 decades

2/19/2013 10:53:07 PM

http://www.wral.com/da-sbi-due-for-decision-on-unc-academic-scandal/11099856/

2/25/2013 3:09:37 PM

what a great picture, wral.

2/25/2013 3:27:52 PM

hahaha the columns underneath the picture look like little shoes. like the animated M&Ms heh.

2/25/2013 3:30:02 PM

This isn't exactly about the NCAA, but just goes to show you how elitist they are in Ch Hill.

http://www.campussafetymagazine.com/Channel/University-Security/News/2013/02/25/UNC-Sex-Assault-Victim-Faces-Possible-Expulsion-for-Speaking-to-Media.aspx

https://twitter.com/andreactually/status/305948880430829569

[Edited on February 25, 2013 at 4:09 PM. Reason : added link]

2/25/2013 4:04:34 PM

Why isn't the freaking police dealing with this shit? Shouldn't this be a crime reported to the cops rather than the Campus Police?

2/25/2013 4:15:05 PM

^ seriously.

2/25/2013 4:20:28 PM

Quote :

" Surprise inspections have been taking place across the UNC-Chapel Hill campus in recent days, as administrators seek to prove that students and faculty are, indeed, meeting for their scheduled classes. Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/02/27/2712446/unc-chapel-hill-checking-on-its.html#storylink=cpy"

all the lulz

2/27/2013 8:32:26 PM

Hey, lets go scope out all the classes that we know are legit and make a report that makes us look good....genius!

2/27/2013 8:59:55 PM

WTF, are they really that stupid? What classes are they monitoring? Who are they trying to fool? Embarassing

2/27/2013 9:01:24 PM

Bump

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/sbi-uncovers-more-evidence-in-unc-football-probe/12171977/

Quote :

"The State Bureau of Investigation has come across "new information" in the case and is gathering more details about it, Woodall said."

3/1/2013 4:56:05 PM

Quote :

" what a great picture, wral. 2/25/2013 3:27:52 PM DoeoJ omar comin' 6018 Posts user info edit post hahaha the columns underneath the picture look like little shoes. like the animated M&Ms heh. 2/25/2013 3:30:02 PM "

Hahaha at the little shoes, that's fantastic

3/1/2013 4:57:32 PM

Quote :

"Woodall and the SBI are trying to determine whether Julius Nyang’oro, the now-retired head of the Department of African and Afro-American Studies, and his administrator, Deborah Crowder, defrauded UNC-Chapel Hill by collecting pay for classes that instructors didn't teach."

Just 2 rogue professors, UNC had no idea what was happening

3/1/2013 4:58:34 PM

There goes my Friday evening to be spent on PackPride!

3/1/2013 5:43:47 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/07/us/north-carolina-chapel-hill-investigation/index.html?iref=allsearch

Quote :

""I went to one administrator, and she told me, 'Rape is like football. And if you look back in the game, would you have done anything differently,'" Clark said."

[Edited on March 7, 2013 at 11:20 PM. Reason : quote]

3/7/2013 11:20:02 PM

Quote :

"U.S. to look at sex assault reporting at NCU "

3/7/2013 11:30:11 PM

Quote :

""We love UNC," said Annie Clark, the lead complainant. "We're not trying to vilify the university, we're just trying to make it better.""

Still clinging on to the Carolina way

3/7/2013 11:33:58 PM

^^They must have looked at the alma mater for the school name.

3/7/2013 11:36:57 PM

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/03/11/2741386/unsealed-warrants-offer-peek-at.html


Dear scandal, please never die.

3/11/2013 9:43:31 AM

That stuff is old and the NCAA has already acted on it, I'm a lot more interested in the State's investigation into the AFAM department and any potential fraud. If the State digs up new information there (since the Martin commission didn't even look), that has the best potential for additional NCAA action.

3/11/2013 9:54:04 AM

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/agent-investigation-names-unc-football-money-man/12207565/

3/11/2013 1:04:05 PM

most of the comments on both of those stories are basically:

"they SHOULD pay the players! the NCAA is the real culprit here!"

3/11/2013 1:31:55 PM

Good article and video from today's panel discussion regarding public record laws and unc

http://www.wral.com/sunshine-day-at-nc-state-targets-open-government/12206945/
http://www.wral.com/news/video/12207685/#/vid12207685

Long video, but some very good common-sense type questions about why some things are protected by FERPA that don't necessarily deserve it, as well as Butch's cell phone

At the end, Dan Kane and Dick Baddour start arguing about the release of Julius Peppers's transcript.

3/11/2013 3:56:22 PM

Quote :

"The investigator with the Secretary of State’s office also stated that Patrick Jones said “packages containing cash had been sent to many other student athletes at schools other than UNC-CH. He could not recall how many packages he had sent to North Carolina student athletes, but he did know that others had received cash.” "

Other schools? I hope its not us. My heat skipped a beat there!

3/11/2013 10:29:57 PM

in other news....just randomly saw quinton coples' roster page on jets website...lol

3/12/2013 4:36:23 PM

Dick and Dan were about to throw down

3/12/2013 7:57:12 PM

^^ No chance he isn't high there.

3/12/2013 8:01:31 PM

^^

Outrageous comment by Dick there. "I would just tell them (the athletes) not to use the University account emails".

3/12/2013 8:19:20 PM

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/03/12/2744803/unc-ch-paid-heavily-to-review.html

3/15/2013 11:22:18 PM

Quote :

"The university used funds from the UNC-CH Foundation to pay the Baker Tilly consulting company nearly $490,000 for the so-called Martin Report, a review of problems with phony courses in the Department of African and Afro-American Studies. [...] Meanwhile, Chancellor Holden Thorp, drawing from the same foundation money that university officials are careful to say isn’t taxpayer funding, hired a public relations consultant at $15,000 a month. That consultant, Doug Sosnik, is charged with managing the public response to the scandal. Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/03/12/2744803/unc-ch-paid-heavily-to-review.html#storylink=cpy"

15 grand a month for once person? Not a firm, a person. Damn, BOG and State Gov needs to take some money away from these assholes going forward.

3/16/2013 12:08:59 AM

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/03/18/3923534/congress-takes-a-pass-so-far-on.html

Quote :

"FERPA was intended to protect student privacy, primarily grades. But educational institutions have used it to keep other kinds of records secret – including disciplinary actions after sexual assault reports, parking tickets that would show what kind of cars student-athletes are driving, and other non-educational information. North Carolina, one of the top public universities in the country that also boasts one of the premier college basketball programs, was the scene of one of the worst-ever academic scandals at an American university. The school, known as a “public Ivy,” quietly placed hundreds of students – many of them athletes – in lecture-style classes in the African studies department, which never met, and which only required of them a term paper at the end, which likely wasn’t read."

Quote :

"Asked last fall about the North Carolina scandal, Rep. David Price, a Chapel Hill Democrat and a former Duke University professor whose district includes UNC, said, "I think this situation has reached the point where we need to ask ourselves, is there a federal legislative approach that could be helpful?""

3/19/2013 1:14:01 AM

So at this point we need to just wait for someone deeply involved to write a tell-all book. Wonder how much we could raise on Kickstarter for such an endevour. There's gotta be some former student athlete who was promised the big money as a pro but never cut it professionally who needs to make a buck or two

[Edited on March 19, 2013 at 2:03 AM. Reason : ...]

3/19/2013 1:58:36 AM

I'll donate $5,000 towards getting a former UNC player to tell the truth

3/19/2013 2:07:41 AM

Down with the satanic goats!!!!!!!!!!

3/21/2013 9:03:33 AM

disgusting ... having graduates in powerful media, law, and government positions really helps UNC for sh!t like this.

But isn't Martin a State grad? I wonder how much $ it took to buy him out that the N&O has not included in that article...

[Edited on March 21, 2013 at 10:49 AM. Reason : ]

3/21/2013 10:49:01 AM

^
James G. Martin Education
Davidson College
Princeton University

3/21/2013 10:50:58 AM

Hope something comes out of this atleast to overcome this season's dissapoint.

3/22/2013 4:03:19 PM

A message from Herr Chancellor:

Quote :

"Dear Students, Faculty and Staff: The University will convene a panel of distinguished leaders in higher education and athletics for the first time next month to consider the role of athletics in the life of Carolina. This idea originated in a report produced last year by a Faculty Executive Committee, and I was pleased to accept that advice. We previously announced that the panel chair would be Hunter Rawlings, president of the Association of American Universities, which represents 62 leading research universities including Carolina. A former university president and successful student-athlete, Dr. Rawlings spoke here last fall about the future of research universities. (See http://tinyurl.com/ccgum7k on YouTube). He is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. Joining him on the panel are: * James Delany, longtime commissioner of the Big Ten Conference and a former NCAA enforcement officer. He holds bachelor's and law degrees from Carolina, where he was a tri-captain on the men's basketball team. * Bob Malekoff, associate professor and sport studies chair at Guilford College and a former athletics director and head coach. He has written about athletics and sports management at the collegiate and professional levels. * Amy Perko, executive director of the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics, and previously an NCAA employee and athletics administrator at the University of Kansas. She earned academic honors as a Wake Forest student-athlete. * Patricia Timmons-Goodson, former associate justice of the N.C. Supreme Court who holds two UNC-Chapel Hill degrees and served on the N.C. Court of Appeals. She serves on Guilford College's Board of Trustees. On Friday, April 19, I will address the panel, which will meet from 1 p.m. to 3 p.m. in the Carolina Inn, Hill Ballroom South. We've invited five other speakers as part of a roundtable discussion: Jay Bilas, ESPN broadcaster, attorney and a former Duke basketball player, as well as UNC colleagues Bubba Cunningham, director of athletics; Joy Renner, Faculty Athletics Committee Chair and clinical associate professor of allied health sciences; Jay Smith, professor of history; and Richard Southall, associate professor of sport administration and director of the College Sport Research Institute. The campus community will also have an opportunity to share comments. I don't expect this panel to solve in a short time what the Knight Commission has been addressing for more than 20 years. But this is a good opportunity to engage in a conversation that could lead to new ideas for best practices moving forward. I will leave it up to Dr. Rawlings and the panelists to decide how to proceed with this work after the first meeting. The issues we face here are not unique to Carolina, and we hope other campuses around the nation will benefit in some way from the panel's work. Sincerely, Holden Thorp"

Nice to see Jay Smith getting a seat at the table. I am sure nothing will come of this, but all the same, it is relevant to this topic.

[Edited on April 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM. Reason : ]

4/1/2013 9:44:30 PM

^Every person mentioned there has either has worked at/attended UNC or has a personal financial interest financial interest in college athletics continuing and growing bigger.

all the

4/1/2013 10:21:48 PM

So Auburn is the new UNC.

Will be interesting to see what happens.

4/3/2013 11:22:10 PM

Quote :

"Auburn is the new UNC"

what?

4/3/2013 11:24:51 PM

http://fansided.com/2013/04/03/auburn-tigers-coaches-bribed-players-altered-grades-on-national-championship-team/

4/3/2013 11:27:06 PM