yeah...why waste an entire episode on 2 characters who have hardly been on the show? Definitely a "filler" episode.

3/28/2007 10:09:31 PM

did hear the "monster" noise right before all the spiders came out, so i was hopin they'd tie that in to make it a better ending...but they didnt.

3/28/2007 10:12:14 PM

packbacker: I think I saw everything you described in your last post. I was just wondering if they explained who the heck these people were and why they were looking for diamonds in the first place.

3/28/2007 10:18:34 PM

they stole them from a TV producer who they had poisoned

the girl was fucking him and the guy got hired as the cook and poisoned his food

3/28/2007 10:21:38 PM

Oy. >_<

3/28/2007 10:23:20 PM

did anyone catch who the other people ben and julia were talking about in the hatch were?

3/28/2007 10:29:58 PM

^sawyer, kate, and jack


and, dammit, i wish paulo and niki were actually dead
i dont like their characters

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"i dislike these "Meanwhile, back at the camp..." episodes unless its about desmond"

agreed

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 10:40 PM. Reason : .]

3/28/2007 10:32:07 PM

well, after being buried alive, i think there is a good chance they are really dead

3/28/2007 10:48:07 PM

I kinda liked tonight's episode. Yeah, it may have been filler, but If you're a true Lost aficionado, it was the kind of filler you live for.

Then again if you're all "Let's hurry up and get some answers" I can see where you would hate it. I guess tonight's episode really just put a wedge in between the crack between the two segments of viewers and split them further apart.

3/28/2007 10:54:24 PM

Does anyone know if they originally shot all of these scenes with paulo and nikki from season 1 and season 2 during the actual filming of those seasons, or did they go back and re-shoot everything to fit these two people in? It seems like a lot of work either way for a storyline that doesn't really have anything to do with the island or affect the other characters. I'm assuming they filmed it back in season 1 and season 2 and just waited to tell the story until now. Pretty pointless episode/storyline.

3/28/2007 10:56:12 PM

Yeah, I was wondering about that too. The amount of shit that was in the plane crash scene alone would have been almost impossible to replicate, much less expensive as FUCK (even for a big budget show like Lost) But She looked too "into" the scene to be Blue Screen. If she was "CGIed" in they did a hell of a job.

3/28/2007 11:07:47 PM

I thought the episode was very good. Old school return to the plane crash. Links to all sections of the show: the underwater packages, the science teacher before and after death, the monster, The Pearl, Sun's kidnapping, Desmond's premonitions, etc. And the whole story with the diamonds and spiders and betrayal and buried alive was well-written and well-integraged into the story.

3/28/2007 11:14:05 PM

FYI: the guy that played Arzt plays a gay guy in that Norm McDonald show " A Minute with Stan Hooper"

The DVD of the whole series was 4 dollars at FYE.

Worst 4 dollars I ever spent.

3/28/2007 11:24:29 PM

I liked this episode.

3/29/2007 12:03:32 AM

I don't understand why people can't enjoy a standalone episode without getting answers. The X-files did it all the time, you had 4 or 5 episodes a season that were part of the big conspiracy story arc, but most episodes were monster of the week stories. Here most episodes give answers but whenever there is one like this people freak out (although Sun finally found out about what Charlie and Sawyer did, we saw Ben and Juliette plotting to capture Saywer, Kate and Jack, and horray they more than likely killed of Niki and Paulo). I was satisfied with the episode.

3/29/2007 8:15:56 AM

That was cool.

Still waiting for the return of Zombie Ecko!

3/29/2007 8:56:07 AM

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"yeah, did the tivo slow-mo for the preview, it's def. a girl who they are burying. my $ is on Katie other sensible guess is the 'eurochick' 3/21/2007 10:12:16 PM"

well I was almost there.


I particularly liked this episode. I don't think they are going to be 'rising' from the grave. I thought for a second that they were but it explains why the dog pulled the blanket of off them. Maybe he still knew that they were alive.

I read earlier in the week that they were not going to come back to the others camp for 5 episodes so kinda knew it was going to be a meanwhile back on the beach episode. I'd expect a few more of those if the article was correct.

3/29/2007 11:03:19 AM

i fell asleep about 1/2 way through this episode

way to keep me engaged, lost

3/29/2007 11:05:57 AM

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"and, dammit, i wish paulo and niki were actually dead i dont like their characters"

I hope they're not dead! Nikki is HOT! But yeah, I think they're dead. You can't really stand up when 4-5 ft of dirt/sand is on top of you. This was a great episode IMO. It was cool to see a lot of things from the past through a different perspective. Not to mention getting to see old characters like Boone, etc.

Good episode!

3/29/2007 12:23:35 PM

**SPOILER**





























The Dog is going to Dig them up.


























j/k

3/29/2007 12:28:13 PM

Well next week is a Kate episode... so it won't be a "back at the beach episode" although we might not have major revelations like in The Man From Tallahassee. Anyway, looks like the previews was a cat-fight between Kate and Juliette, it was very short.

3/29/2007 12:31:53 PM

i loved this episode...

freakin' awesome...

i knew there was something more to those 2 than met the eye...
especially in the hatch when that dude used the bathroom, now we know what he was really up to.

i love this show

3/29/2007 3:15:15 PM

yeah, I'm with the crowd that actually liked the episode too

3/29/2007 3:49:56 PM

i liked the episode too, it reminded me of a lot of things i had forgotten about/hadn't thought about in some time, and i liked seeing all the old dead characters too

3/29/2007 4:06:03 PM

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"I don't understand why people can't enjoy a standalone episode without getting answers. "

perhaps you didn't watch the entire last season

3/29/2007 8:30:29 PM

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"I kinda liked tonight's episode. Yeah, it may have been filler, but If you're a true Lost aficionado, it was the kind of filler you live for."

oh cmon man, there were so many things bad about this episode w/out even mentioning the cliched plot that has been done on 100 other tv shows

if this was about any one of the characters we had been introduced to before this season, even one of the new others, ok.

but they just threw these 2 characters in for no reason except to get more filler eps.

i mean, this was a recap show. period. it went back and revisited old crap we had ever seen. the only plot element even remotely involving main characters was the whole charlie/sawyer/sun thing.

i am usually the first to defend episodes against the people who always say how bad every episode was, but there were zero redeeming qualities to this episode.

AND they play that music at the end to make us think they are still alive which, if true, would be the single most ridiculous thing to happen on this show. and w/ locke saying "things dont stay buried blah blah blah" it very well may be true.



oh and the other thing it showed was that the science teacher guy knows WAYYYY too much science for a junior high science teacher. where did he teach, fucking Harvard Junior High or something??

[Edited on March 29, 2007 at 8:33 PM. Reason : a]

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"my $ is on Katie other sensible guess is the 'eurochick' 3/21/2007 10:12:16 PM" well I was almost there."

wait. what?

your first guess is Kate and you want credit??

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"I thought for a second that they were but it explains why the dog pulled the blanket of off them. Maybe he still knew that they were alive."

somebody needs to bring back the cloud

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"I thought the episode was very good. Old school return to the plane crash. Links to all sections of the show: the underwater packages, the science teacher before and after death, the monster, The Pearl, Sun's kidnapping, Desmond's premonitions, etc."

so i guess you watch the recap shows every time they show those too?

[Edited on March 29, 2007 at 8:35 PM. Reason : a]

3/29/2007 8:31:14 PM

^ a "new" episode is still a new episode. Don't act like a snob just because you chose not to watch them.

3/29/2007 9:23:46 PM

i did watch it genius

3/29/2007 9:28:24 PM

It was far from a recap. And I don't have to defend my liking of it.

3/29/2007 11:00:26 PM

So what real life trouble did Ecko get into where they killed him off and made me ?

3/29/2007 11:15:15 PM

i dont think anyone asked you to

but it was a recap show and a tool to kill off two characters who really had no point to being introduced in the first place.

3/29/2007 11:16:26 PM

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"somebody needs to bring back the cloud"

ahahaha

soon everyone will turn to the darkside and realize what i realized long ago

Quote :

"The X-files did it all the time"

the difference is that the X-Files stand alone monster of the week episodes were actually fun and interesting--i can dvr an x-file episode from any season and not have to worry about being caught up on what's going on. and there's only 2 main characters on the X-Files...and all the other characters are mysterious enough to keep interest

the only mysterious and interesting thing about LOST is the island and thus all of LOST's stand alone episodes just plain suck

at the end of this episode i just didn't really give a shit about them being buried alive--you can't completely two characters in just one episode--plus, its really shitty that they went through all that stuff and it wasn't mentioned before. the flashbacks to life before the island and the actions of the others are one thing, but this show is presented from the point of view of the castaways. they keep screwing with the audience when they pull shit like this

and i still cant believe no one else realized that they totally blurred out her falling out of her dress during the scene at the airport--that's why you guys suck at watching the show, you pay no attention to the details

3/29/2007 11:52:17 PM

i actually disagree with that

i dont mind a somewhat stand alone episode

i just dont wanta stand alone episode centered on characters who are considered completely disposable by even the writers

we need a standalone episode for science guy

and for dead guy from season one whatshisname

maybe a standalone episode for the polar bear?



edit: for the x-files analogy, this would be equivalent ot the x-files introducing some 3rd agent in the 3rd or 4th season and having him stick his nose around randomly for a few episodes then have an ep devoted entirely to him where mulder, scully, deep throat and all the others are mere secondary characters and then the 3rd agent dies at the end

worthless episode and lazy writing

[Edited on March 30, 2007 at 12:21 AM. Reason : a]

3/30/2007 12:18:31 AM

^agree. they introduce two new characters to kill them off a few episodes later. and what bearing did they have on the whole story? absolutely none. and it wasn't even an interesting filler. it was watching a hot chick prance around in tank tops, let's not kid ourselves. but then again, this show hasn't really been interesting since the first season

and

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"And I don't have to defend my liking of it."

I think you do. The writing just gets thinner and thinner...this show is completely out of steam.

3/30/2007 12:54:03 AM

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"you can't completely two characters in just one episode"

what the fuck does that mean?

3/30/2007 1:31:19 AM

'develop' would seem to be the missing word there

3/30/2007 2:17:09 AM

haha i was gonna talk shit to saddamizer and then i read his post and was like huh, so i read the one above it and went, oh yeah

3/30/2007 3:21:53 AM

The spiders that attacked her were the black smoke monster.

3/30/2007 5:27:05 AM

I'm just amazed they've been on this island for months, running through the jungle in almost every episode, and she is the first one to be bit by the Medusa spider.

3/30/2007 7:23:56 AM

rwoody is the epitome of my post two pages back

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"For all you people who just post on here about how bad the show is, think about this: you are spending at least 2 hours a week (watching show and posting on a board) about the show. That is exactly what the writers want you to do: watch the show and talk about it to generate more interest. Even bad publicity is publicity. LOST wins. "

3/30/2007 7:43:56 AM

have they done one of their stupid dharma websites yet this season?

[Edited on March 30, 2007 at 7:52 AM. Reason : and yeah, develop was the missing word]

3/30/2007 7:51:49 AM

okay... you people seem a little confused about the spiders:

The Medusa spider's bite causes paralysis and slows the heartbeat to a crawl that even a doctor wouldn't notice. They weren't "killed off" because of two things. One: the spider doesnt kill! Two: Locke said "things don't stay buried on this island."

The spiders that bit 'stripper bitch' were the males that 'Middle school Science teacher' said would come flocking at even the scent of the female.

3/30/2007 8:05:34 AM

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"this show hasn't really been interesting since the first season"

Funny, this episode reminded me of the first season. New characters, their troubled backstories, interactions with others related to the island, living on the beach thinking about rescue and the monster, mysterious events, etc.

3/30/2007 8:18:42 AM

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"rwoody is the epitome of my post two pages back"

except you are an idiot b/c this is the first show i have ever criticized to this extent

i usually like the ones others boohoo about

3/30/2007 11:03:03 AM

Dude, it wasn't a personal attack he was just sayiing that your comments are what the lost producers are going after, talking about it regardless if it is positive or negative is still talking about it.

3/30/2007 1:01:54 PM

^

3/30/2007 1:50:43 PM

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"For all you people who just post on here about how bad the show is, think about this: you are spending at least 2 hours a week (watching show and posting on a board) about the show"

i obviously do not fit that profile, sorry

3/30/2007 1:52:43 PM

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"'stripper bitch' "

I like eurochic so much better, she is a fine ass piece of woman. They made her clothing and everything compliment Paolo so they looked euro / brazilian / etc. She was an actress NOT a stripper! (how many strippers will still tell u that though)

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"The spiders that attacked her were the black smoke monster."

Yeah you can definitely hear the "chica-chica-chica" that heralds old smokey before the spiders rally around eurochic. But are the spiders the smoke monster or are they controlled by it? Old smokey doesent seem to like the hot, bitchy gals on this island and I dont know how I feel about that. They couldve just killed off Paolo and given us a few more eps with eurochic and I woudlnt have minded at all....

3/30/2007 2:03:40 PM

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"haha they blurred out where she was falling out of her dress "

Does anyone remember what scene this was? I tried telling a friend about this and she didn't believe me (she's not in Raleigh). I downloaded a version from the internets but I can't find the blur anywhere. I know I saw it on the live episode but I've since deleted it from my DVR.

Could this be regional censorship?

3/30/2007 11:37:06 PM

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"The spiders that bit 'stripper bitch' were the males that 'Middle school Science teacher' said would come flocking at even the scent of the female."

Wrong, it was the black smoke monster.

Quote :

"Yeah you can definitely hear the "chica-chica-chica" that heralds old smokey before the spiders rally around eurochic."

BeerzNBikes caught it.


The island either punishes you, or rewards you. Locke is being rewarded for his good deeds, whereas most everyone else is being punished.

3/31/2007 7:11:21 AM