TWW could run the Bobcats better than they currently are run.....

For serious. We would have probably still taken Felton, taking Danny Granger over May, and got Brandon Roy in here somehow with a hooker or something over Adam fucking Morrison. This year they could have the Center they have been looking for years and they pass him up.....I give up.

6/26/2008 10:36:52 PM

Now that I think about it, Weaver might be the defensive guard they were wanting out of this draft.

[Edited on June 26, 2008 at 11:18 PM. Reason : .]

6/26/2008 11:02:19 PM

Isn't the plan to make Felton a 2???? Brown will not go in with a rookie starting, he just won't. Brown never plays rookies hardly at all.

6/26/2008 11:17:47 PM

No way Felton is ever a 2.

6/26/2008 11:21:01 PM

I don't think so either because even after these few years he still can't shoot the NBA three. So what exactly is our front office doing????

6/26/2008 11:35:50 PM

I'm pretty sure we won't bring back Derek Anderson or Boykins, so that leaves Felton as the only pg on the roster before tonight.

So now you have a Felton/Augustin with Weaver being the defensive specialist/team first kind of guy.

Who knows, thats all I can think of.

6/26/2008 11:39:04 PM

nvm.

[Edited on June 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM. Reason : .]

6/26/2008 11:42:54 PM

Quote :

" The selection of Italian forward Danilo Gallinari could mean the end of David Lee’s Knicks career. I’m hearing that the Knicks could be working on a deal with the Charlotte Bobcats to acquire point guard Raymond Felton for Lee, who played for Bobcats coach Larry Brown. Coincidentally, the Bobcats selected Texas point guard D.J. Augustin with the ninth overall pick. Charlotte’s second point was French center Alexis Ajinca. When Mike D’Antoni coached the Phoenix Suns he gave the front office a the thumbs-down to drafting Lee because he felt that Lee wasn’t a good enough shooter. The Knicks had spoken to the Memphis Grizzlies about trading Lee and Malik Rose before the draft to acquire the fifth pick. "

I don't know what to think about this

6/27/2008 11:14:03 AM

I had posted that excerpt in the post above, but I removed it when I kept hearing that the source wasn't very reliable. Still it makes you wonder what we are going to do next.

6/27/2008 11:26:43 AM

Quote :

"No way Felton is ever a 2."

Vincent had him starting at the 2 while McInnis was on the team...Bernie ran him at the 2 sometimes when he was in the lineup with Brevin

6/27/2008 11:33:52 AM

From Jordan:

(On how this impacts negotiations with Raymond Felton)
We didn’t have another point guard last year and obviously we felt like we needed to shore up another point guard because Raymond can play two positions for us. We anticipate signing Raymond. We’re not going in with the idea that we’re not going to keep Raymond.

6/27/2008 11:52:12 AM

Let's take Kyle Weaver while CDR is still on the board! Idiots.

6/27/2008 3:51:47 PM

wanted a defensive guard. got a defensive guard.

6/27/2008 7:15:38 PM

Quote :

"Vincent had him starting at the 2 while McInnis was on the team...Bernie ran him at the 2 sometimes when he was in the lineup with Brevin"

Poster above was referring to "making Felton a 2." Just because he plays the 2 every now and then doesn't make him a 2. Pargo and Paul played together a lot this year, but neither is a 2. Felton shouldn't even be a backup 2 on any team in the NBA.

6/27/2008 7:42:10 PM

oh i agree...i was mainly pointing out Sam Vincent's incompetence

6/28/2008 12:20:38 PM

Really need to resign Okafor, but this seems a bit much doesn't it?

Quote :

"If the Bobcats lock up Okafor in the $12-13 million a year range, it would leave them little wiggle room under the cap to go after other free agents in what's considered a weak class."

http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2008/jul/01/bobcats-are-trying-to-re-sign-okafor/

7/1/2008 10:45:27 AM

Okafor is solid but he's just so hard to root for

When you sit close to the floor and watch him closely, he just plays like such a pussy sometimes

He also is allergic to dunking, so he does a cuntish lay up that gets blocked 40 percent of the time

13 million ? No thanks

Maybe 10-11

7/1/2008 11:20:50 AM

he's a very good low post defender but thats about all he brings to the table

doesnt dunk enough for his strength, shitty FT shooter, weak low post offense

great defender but not even in the class of Dwight Howard, Bosh, etc

7/1/2008 11:23:13 AM

jordan has a gambling problem and notoriously cheats on his wife

why are we trusting him?

[Edited on July 1, 2008 at 11:35 AM. Reason : .]

7/1/2008 11:34:56 AM

I have a gambling problem and cheat on my girlfriend

I couldn't care less about that if he knew how to run a franchise

7/1/2008 11:37:27 AM

thats a big if, especially when he comes full circle this year in the draft at 20 and selects Le Kwame

Jordan, Bird, Isaiah = great players, shitty front office

7/1/2008 11:45:09 AM

^^ i guess you aren't the receiver in the relationship then

gg

7/1/2008 10:48:58 PM

We should give Barkley a chance to run our team!

7/2/2008 1:16:44 AM

Can someone please explain what the deal is with Ryan Hollins? I follow the PAC 10 very closely and he looked damn athletic for a 7 footer in the 05 and 06 tourney. He's only been playing like 8 minutes/game.

7/2/2008 10:53:53 AM

he can't shoot or do anything else really except swat the occasional shot. he's athletic, but his coordination seems to be pretty bad. he has bulked up, which is a plus, but i wouldn't expect anymore than 10 minutes a game this year backing up Okafor (assuming he's back) and Nazr. he'll probably stay on the team until french guy is ready to contribute.

[Edited on July 2, 2008 at 11:58 AM. Reason : ]

7/2/2008 11:56:49 AM

"Spaz" Hollins

7/2/2008 11:58:59 AM

Quote :

"he'll probably stay on the team until french guy is ready to contribute."

So he will be on the team as long as he likes then?

7/3/2008 1:00:40 AM

I'm thinking at least another two years.

7/3/2008 9:25:10 AM

7/3/2008 10:07:17 AM

Summer League Roster:


21 Alexis Ajinca C 7-0 220 5/6/88 France R
14 D.J. Augustin G 6-0 180 11/10/87 Texas R
5 Jackie Butler C 6-10 260 3/10/85 Coastal Christian HS (VA) 3
33 Jermareo Davidson F/C 6-10 230 11/17/84 Alabama 1
42 Chuck Davis F 6-7 230 4/20/84 Alabama R
23 Guillermo Diaz G 6-2 185 3/4/85 Miami (FL) 1
4 Jared Dudley G/F 6-7 225 7/10/85 Boston College 1
27 Orien Greene G/F 6-4 208 2/4/82 Louisiana-Lafayette 3
30 Donnell Harvey F 6-8 223 8/26/80 Florida 5
6 Kyle Hines F 6-6 230 9/2/86 UNC-Greensboro R
15 Ryan Hollins C 7-0 230 10/10/84 UCLA 2
2 Othello Hunter F 6-8 225 5/28/86 Ohio State R
25 David Logan G 6-1 170 12/26/82 Indianapolis R
3 James Mays F 6-9 230 3/3/86 Clemson R
12 Mustafa Shakur G 6-3 190 8/18/84 Arizona R
1 Kyle Visser C 6-11 255 10/19/85 Wake Forest R
26 Brandon Wallace F 6-9 203 3/14/85 South Carolina R
17 Kyle Weaver G 6-6 201 2/18/86 Washington State R

7/7/2008 4:39:46 PM

Kyle Visser....really? common Bobcats...you're better than that.

7/7/2008 5:44:30 PM

think they love the ACC?

7/7/2008 5:45:52 PM

lmao at Kyle Visser

He could fill the Jake Voskuhl role for us I guess

7/7/2008 5:46:30 PM

wizards pt. 2

7/7/2008 6:01:43 PM

That's 18 players, meaning about half of them will never see the floor. Are we going to have more than one team??

If not, it'll still be a fun team to watch with Augustin running the show. Also, I like the Gueillermo Diaz addition -- I had completely forgotten about that guy.

7/7/2008 7:03:50 PM

Hines can really ball but is too short to play inside in the NBA.

Shakur could make our team....he could be a sleeper.

7/7/2008 7:07:45 PM

Bobcats sign Augustin, Ajinca

http://www.charlotte.com/bobcats/story/704443.html

7/8/2008 1:41:31 PM

dude even looks like ryan hollins



twin brother awkward

7/8/2008 4:58:53 PM

i'm sure Hollins is still a much bigger spaz

him and Hunter Pence are twins on that tip

7/8/2008 5:01:31 PM

[Edited on July 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM. Reason : hollins]

7/8/2008 5:02:12 PM

^^^looks like Hollins mixed with Boris Diaw. And the reason he is smiling so big is cause he just stole $2.1 million from the Cats.

7/8/2008 5:51:33 PM

Summer League Game #1 Bobcats 81 Clippers 66


Field Goals Rebounds
pos min fgm-a 3pm-a ftm-a off def tot ast pf st to bs pts

D.Augustin G 23:28 4-9 1-2 5-6 1 2 3 2 5 2 2 0 14

K.Weaver G 15:10 1-5 0-1 2-3 1 1 2 0 2 2 1 0 4

J.Davidson F 22:06 6-10 0-0 3-4 2 6 8 0 4 0 3 1 15

J.Dudley F 21:02 1-6 0-1 4-4 1 0 1 0 4 0 3 0 6

A.Ajinca C 16:51 1-7 0-0 1-2 2 2 4 0 2 0 0 0 3

G.Diaz 17:28 3-6 1-1 2-2 2 1 3 1 2 0 2 0 9

O.Greene 17:16 3-5 0-0 0-0 0 3 3 3 3 1 1 0 6

C.Davis 10:51 2-3 0-0 2-3 2 2 4 0 4 0 0 0 6

O.Hunter 10:26 3-5 0-0 1-2 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 7

J.Mays 10:26 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 3 3 0 3 0 1 0 0

B.Wallace 10:16 1-4 0-0 0-0 1 0 1 1 2 0 1 1 2

K.Visser 09:50 0-4 0-0 0-0 1 1 2 0 2 1 2 1 0

K.Hines 09:00 3-7 0-0 1-1 3 2 5 0 2 0 0 0 7

M.Shakur 05:50 0-1 0-0 2-2 1 2 3 1 3 0 1 0 2
J.Butler - - -
D.Harvey - - -
D.Logan - - -

[Edited on July 12, 2008 at 8:09 PM. Reason : .]

7/12/2008 8:08:15 PM

ajinca 1-7

and i assume he takes all his shots from 2-6 feet out

7/12/2008 9:30:31 PM

Actually 3-4 of those shots were free throw line extended, with 2 of those just rimming out. He did have a pretty big dunk off of a missed free throw though. Runs the floor very well for his size as well.

Augustin looked awesome, consistently getting into the lane for layups or dishing off for wide open jumpers (which didn't go in tonight).

[Edited on July 12, 2008 at 10:00 PM. Reason : .]

7/12/2008 9:54:09 PM

i think even the most optimistic people assume that ajinca is at least a 1 year project, so i wouldnt expect too much from his first summer league game. i mean, dudley shot 1-6 and he was one of the bobcats best players off the bench last year.

that said, i watched most of the game on nba.com and thought he showed good movement and some decent moves. definitely didnt look like a complete stiff. we'll just have to be patient and see how he develops.

7/12/2008 10:15:12 PM

sweet line by kyle visser


VISSER READY TO STAND TALL

7/13/2008 12:13:34 AM

http://message_topic.aspx?topic=443654

7/13/2008 12:28:56 AM

Donnell Harvey was a lottery pick a few years ago and now he can't even get off the bench in a summer league game. He needed to stay at Florida until his skills caught up with his body.

7/13/2008 12:29:53 PM

Summer League Game #2 : Bobcats 75 Hornets 77

Field Goals Rebounds
pos min fgm-a 3pm-a ftm-a off def tot ast pf st to bs pts

B.Wallace F 15:11 2-4 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 1 3 0 2 0 4

J.Davidson F 28:09 4-8 0-0 4-6 3 6 9 2 4 0 1 1 12

A.Ajinca C 21:05 3-8 0-3 5-5 0 4 4 1 2 0 1 2 11

D.Augustin G 34:32 5-9 1-3 4-5 0 3 3 2 2 0 5 0 15

K.Weaver G 19:32 1-5 0-1 0-0 0 4 4 0 3 0 3 1 2

J.Mays 18:27 2-6 0-0 0-1 1 3 4 0 1 0 1 0 4

M.Shakur 04:27 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0

K.Hines 06:26 2-3 0-0 0-2 1 1 2 0 2 0 1 0 4

M.Slaughter 11:04 0-3 0-0 1-2 1 0 1 0 1 0 2 0 1

O.Greene 14:49 2-2 0-0 6-8 0 1 1 0 5 0 4 0 10

O.Hunter 10:45 3-4 0-0 0-0 1 0 1 0 2 0 0 0 6

G.Diaz 06:40 1-2 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 2

C.Davis 08:53 1-3 0-0 2-2 2 0 2 0 2 0 2 1 4

J.Dudley - - -
K.Visser - - -

[Edited on July 13, 2008 at 6:13 PM. Reason : .]

7/13/2008 6:12:48 PM

With the Clippers trading for Camby, I can see Okafor just accepting the $7 M qualifying offer, and becoming an unrestricted free agent next year.

As far as the summer league, lost game #3 to the Warriors last night. Augustin had 30 pts, but didn't have any assists (this was mostly due to missed shots or the recipients of the dish getting fouled). Hines from UNCG had 14 pts.

7/16/2008 8:57:10 AM