then he'd be lucky to have witten. and honestly, as pooly as brown has done, i might ask for a little more

9/17/2007 6:34:16 PM

^he has cadillac also

Should I go after him?

also has lamont jordan...what about winslow for him

[Edited on September 17, 2007 at 7:27 PM. Reason : jordan]

9/17/2007 7:18:38 PM

how about fucking lee evans? the dude is killin me. i keep playin him thinkin he's gonna have a breakout game...but that hasn't exactly happened

any advice on what to do with him? i know he's the team's #1 receiver, but jp losman sucks balls

ideas?

9/17/2007 8:00:39 PM

he is one of the best WR's in the game, look at what he did last year with the same shitty QB

he has played 2 of the toughest pass D's in the league

he will be inconsistent because his QB is inconsistent, and a lot of his production comes from long bomb td receptions, so I wouldn't change your opinion of him just yet

9/17/2007 8:05:58 PM

^^ cadillac sucks too, so unless he's willing to part with jordan then i'd say look elsewhere for a trade

9/17/2007 8:07:48 PM

true but he's so frustrating. ive got cotchery, wes welker, and james jones on the bench right now. i might give him one more week before sending him to the pine

9/17/2007 8:08:40 PM

The bills have an easy schedule at the end of the year. Hopefully, they will power some fantasy teams through playoffs.

With that said, taking good players on crappy teams with idiot quarterbacks is excruciating this early on.

[Edited on September 17, 2007 at 8:09 PM. Reason : l';]

9/17/2007 8:09:23 PM

Quote :

"cadillac sucks too, so unless he's willing to part with jordan then i'd say look elsewhere for a trade "

aight I think I'll see if he takes winslow for lamont, cause I dont think he'll do witten for him. At least not after lamont's last game.

9/17/2007 8:21:10 PM

I'm not tooting my own horn, but I'd day I'm at about an 80% success rate for the season in this thread!

9/17/2007 9:49:44 PM

^That's meaningless without a basis of comparison. We need to get a monkey and a dart board to really see who's better.

9/17/2007 9:54:51 PM

Quote :

"That's meaningless without a basis of comparison. We need to get a monkey and a dart board to really see who's better."

Dude, I'm right way more than I am wrong. End of story.

I even predicted Romo's fucking rushing yards. I said he would have 30, and he had 32. Pretty damn solid IMO.

9/17/2007 10:13:13 PM

^panthro, what do you suggest I should do with my trade

want just a little more input before I make a move

Guy has offered me ronnie brown for winslow

but also has Caddy and Lamont jordan

I can counter with witten as well.

9/17/2007 10:51:52 PM

ok guy wants to trade LT i gotta hop on this while he still is having bad games


do i trade travis henry, willie parker, brian westbrook, or marion barber III for him

I plan to use him as a starter or trade bait and trade away another for Gates or Peyton or Palmer

who to trade?

9/17/2007 11:47:03 PM

Shit Andre Johnson is doubtful for this week....he has been killer for me so far.

Do I really want Jerry Porter or Vincent Jackson starting?

^I would defenitly hold on to Barber because Dallas is going to keep scoring TDs and he will do the bulk of the scoring in the red zone. I say go with Henry.

[Edited on September 17, 2007 at 11:51 PM. Reason : ^]

9/17/2007 11:49:52 PM

^^henry or parker. henry because he is on the crappier offense.


Westbrook wasn't too nasty, so i scrape a win together!

9/17/2007 11:52:40 PM

i think the philly D got 4 points...i was up by 3 and change going into the game...if only the skins had score 1 more point

9/18/2007 12:00:13 AM

yea i lost thanks to not playin marion barber III this week which sucks


im tempted to play henry every week he has had some huge yardage games but no TDs which really matter

as for Parker, I think actually im sure he would do that trade but Parker is soooo good...i guess its a good trade though considering LT has played the toughest two teams in the league so far...

so once again its tough

barber, henry, parker or westbrook for LT?

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 12:06 AM. Reason : fr]

9/18/2007 12:05:48 AM

This is probably trivial for you, but who to start this week?

RB:
Edgerrin James @ Baltimore
Ronnie Brown @ NYJ

9/18/2007 7:40:39 AM

Quote :

"barber, henry, parker or westbrook for LT?"

jesus fucking christ how many teams are in your league, 6?

either that or you are starting chris henry and james thrash at WR

9/18/2007 8:35:04 AM

^^ That's a tough one. I'd say Ronnie Brown as Baltimore will be tough to run on. Even though Edge is having a great start. I would check and see how the last teams that played against them ran against them. I think the Jets didn't fair too well running as T Jones was playing against me and didn't do too well. Not sure how Rudi did the previous week.

On a side note, I am glad I waited on picking a defense and just scoured the waivers instead to pick up GB and the Minn. Minn has been do very nicely for me th first couple of weeks. Better than my opponents Bengals. :-) I just need to find a sleeper TE now as Randy McMichael and Eric Johnson are not cutting it.

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 8:36 AM. Reason : ]

9/18/2007 8:35:54 AM

Yeah our auto-draft gave me the Minny D/ST and I'm likin' it so far, haha.

Ok some important plays this weeks after I was man-handled by Palmer and Favre last week, haha, and now it appears my go-to WR Andre Johnson is gonna be out.

Pick 2 of the 3:
McNabb - took a chance on him high in the draft and he's killing me with terrible accuracy. And his rag-tag group of WR's aren't helping.
Garcia - efficient, not spectacular. Had a rough week 1 but an awesome week 2, and he draws a great match-up for week 3 against STL.
McCown - He had a good week 1, a terrible week 2(but it was to be expected), and now he draws the Browns who just last week gave up 6 passing TD's.

Pick 2 of the 3:
LT - Basically a locked in starter despite his rough-goings and GB's stout D.
SJ - He's been killing my team each week, at least LT has scored on the ground and in the air. This week he draws the Buccs who aren't as good as they use to be, but are still an aggressive D.
Portis - He's been efficient at least, he's put up 60-70 yards and a TD each week, and this week he gets the Giants who don't exactly have the best front 7 in football.

Right now I have:
McNabb and Garcia
LT and SJ

But that's just because in a case where I can't decide I always start my stud players, but I thought I'd get some feedback.

(And before people start gasping at my RB situation, I'm in a 10 person 2-player keeper league, I picked LT last year and made a trade for SJ and kept both of them)

9/18/2007 8:45:47 AM

JT3bucky, I told you to play MB3.

Why didnt you listen!?!

9/18/2007 9:05:02 AM

I would bench Garcia for McCown, any QB facing the Browns = Instant Peyton Manning right now. I *might* bench SJax for Portis too, since Portis got a lot more carries than Betts last night.

9/18/2007 9:53:31 AM

more bad news for Maurice Jones-Drew fans/teams

Quote :

"Jags' team physicians took Jones-Drew (unspecified injury) in for X-rays following Sunday's win over the Falcons, the Orlando Sentinel reports."

9/18/2007 10:46:29 AM

alright so a guy in our league is having a fire sale

One of the guys he is willing to give up is shaun alexander, as well as lee evans (who he despises right now)

I was going to try and trade one of my TE (winslow/witten) for another guys RB (Brown/Caddy/Lamont)

BUT i think im gonna try and give up Witten/(T. Jones or L. Betts) for Alexander.

I may try and make a trade for lee evans too but dont know how long he is going to suck it up. I have Galloway, Coles and Ocho Cinco.

any advice?

9/18/2007 10:58:30 AM

^^I saw this too, and I am both a fan of his and an owner of his, but I was somewhat relieved by:

Quote :

"The Jaguars have scored just 23 points and haven't shown the same kind of running attack that made Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor one of the top tandems in the league last season. But Jones-Drew said the offense will get on track - and soon. "Oh, it's coming," Jones-Drew said Monday. "We just have to be patient with it.""

I know a broken bone won't stop you from talking, but he sounds optimistic enough that I think he's ok.

^I agree with the post below me about trying to get Evans too

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 11:05 AM. Reason : 2]

9/18/2007 11:03:12 AM

^^ I would try to go ahead and get Evans. Imho, he isn't going to suck it up all year and you have three viable starting options for until Losman starts tossing the ball his way. Evans is a great plug on Bye weeks too.

Really depends on what you have to give up, but it doesn't sound like you would have to part with much...

Also, I would go with T Jones/Witten for Alexander. Betts would be more productive if Portis goes down than Jones is now I think. If he as set on getting rid of Alexander as it sounds, it *might* work



[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 11:07 AM. Reason : ...]

9/18/2007 11:03:30 AM

I'm being offered Ladell Betts for Warrick Dunn. Both are bench players for me right now, although Dunn is making a decent case to play of Deshaun Foster.

Either way, I'm considering the trade because Dunn is pretty much maxing on his potential, whereas Betts is a possibility to be a number 1 RB if and when Portis goes down. Plus Dunn could lose his job to Norwood any day.

thoughts?

edit: I might be able to add a swap of giving up LJ Smith and getting Heath Miller on this too (just a bench upgrade)

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 11:42 AM. Reason : s]

9/18/2007 11:33:16 AM

You are right about Dunn pretty much maxing, as I suspect Norwood will gradually start to take more carries. However, Dunn still plays while Betts is losing carries to a healthier-looking Portis. It is likely that Portis gets injured again, so I suppose it depends on whether you want to take that risk. If Portis does go down Betts is the best option of those two, but until then Dunn is showing signs of at least scoring points consistently.

Its a tough choice.

Not to mention Dunn is playing on an inept offense, while Washington *seems* to be improving.

The Tight End thing is a definite upgrade, imo.

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 11:48 AM. Reason : ...]

9/18/2007 11:43:59 AM

The Guru is ready for some questions....

Fire away if you have them. It's gonna be an easy afternoon here at the job site, so I'm on call for your Fantasy Football Questions!

9/18/2007 12:44:16 PM

^Mine is a little ways up but could use a bit more addressing.

9/18/2007 1:23:45 PM

^^

Quote :

"alright so a guy in our league is having a fire sale One of the guys he is willing to give up is shaun alexander, as well as lee evans (who he despises right now) I was going to try and trade one of my TE (winslow/witten) for another guys RB (Brown/Caddy/Lamont) BUT i think im gonna try and give up Witten/(T. Jones or L. Betts) for Alexander. I may try and make a trade for lee evans too but dont know how long he is going to suck it up. I have Galloway, Coles and Ocho Cinco. any advice? "

9/18/2007 2:19:05 PM

Deshawn Wynn

What do you think, and may he be a better option with Edge going up against the Baltimore Defense this week?

9/18/2007 2:19:51 PM

LudaChris, In my opinion, I would have to sit McCown out of those three QB's. Garcia is a must start against a very pourous STL secondary. He really seems to be getting a good feel for the offense and he has a great chemistry with his WR's. McNabb has only played one game against Detroit, but after this week of controversy and playing the role of the victim, I expect him to throw for 250 and at least 2 scores against the Lions secondary if not better, with the majority of his work coming off of check downs to Westbrook and Smith. As far as McCown, first and foremost, he is not Carson Palmer. He will not throw for 6 TD's. Secondly, this game has trap written all over it from a Fantasy perspective. This is just the type of game where the Browns secondary steps up and only allows a TD or 2.

Start the current and former Eagles QB's...they will produce in week 3.

AC Slater, I think you should absolutely go after either SA or Evans, but in all honesty, this guy doesnt deserve to play FF if he trades Alexander, who is off to a good start, for Thomas Jones and Witten. Though you may not want to, you might want to think about Winslow and Jones. It seems like alot, but Alexander will really be hitting a stride in the next few weeks, and he could reap major benefits for you going forward. If you could pull it off before this weekend, that would be ideal...Witten is going to play a huge part of the offense this weekend at Chicago. I really like him against the Bears. Winslow is in a sell high time right now. Low ball him first, then see what he really wants. Start with Winslow for Alexander and see what he'll do.

AxlBonBach, I like Deshawn Wynn, and it looks like the packers do too. Early reports are that he will at least take 50% of the carries this week v. SD, and may even start. He is not a better option than Edge however, even against the Ravens. I would not want to be Green Bay this week. SD is gonna be pissed. Anyway, I like Wynn, and he is absolutely worth picking up, but he is not worth starting or trading for unless you are in an over 12 man league. Remember, we dont know how the Green Bay backfield will play out once Vernand Morency returns from his injuries. Start Edge. Arizona has already shown that they are going to stick with the run, no matter the score or situation.

I hope this helps!

- The Guru

9/18/2007 2:56:05 PM

Do I play Santonio Holmes instead of Brandon Marshall assuming Andre Johnson doesn't play?

Also do I play Berrian over Jones-Drew at W/R flex in another league,or I guess I should wait to see what the X-Rays of Jones-Drew indicate

9/18/2007 3:10:56 PM

^ Play Marshall. San Fran's Corners are one of the top tandems in the league. So far, no WR has lit them up yet. Marshall seems to be Cutler's favorite target in the red zone, and he is a burner in the open field. I like him for 70-80 yards and a Touhdown this week.

I also like Berrian over MJD. If there is anything that is wrong with the Cowboys, its thier secondary. Start him with confidence. The Bears will have to throw the ball to stay in this game, plus its a Sunday nighter!

9/18/2007 3:28:05 PM

do oyu think derek anderson is for real and do you think jp losman is done for?

i.e. dropping losman and picking up anderson on waivers

9/18/2007 3:32:30 PM

I heard Leftwich got picked up by Atlanta. Is he worth a waiver flyer?

9/18/2007 4:07:41 PM

^^ It would be very difficult for me not to endorse Anderson, given his performance last week as well as his play last year, especially considering the other option (Losman) has yet to throw a TD pass, and the offense has looked stagnant as a whole. I say yes, go for it, see if you can capture lightning in a bottle. Be advised though, as is the case with mose players who drop outof the sky and into fantasy relavance...they tend to disappear as fast as they burst on to the scene, if not faster. Temper your expectations, but he could be a great sleeper, espeically in deeper leagues.

^Leftwich could be a nice pickup for the Falcons, but I wonder about if he fits their philosphy. Leftwich has always been more of a dink and dump QB since he came into the NFL, and Petrino's system in ATL is one that requires precision passing from the QB. Even if all goes well, it will take him a few weeks to get into game shape, so at this point, it would be to hasty of a move for me to take up a roster spot for Leftwich. I would much rather take a flyer on someone like Sammy Morris if I were to be scavenging the waiver wire (which I did pick him up in one of my 12 men leagues today).

- The Guru

9/18/2007 4:20:05 PM

yeah i dropped Brandon Jackson for Sammy Morris in 1 league

9/18/2007 4:31:43 PM

Hey Panthro, thanks for the QB advice.

Now how about some advice with that RB situation I was having?

Everyone feel free, the issue is:

Start 2 of 3:
LT(vs GB), SJ(vs TB), or Portis(vs NYG)
(look at my original question for my debate and reasoning)

9/18/2007 4:43:48 PM

regardless of the defense, i say you MUST PLAY ladainian and s-jack every week unless they get injured

i have s-jack in both of my leagues and am well aware of his slow start...but still...he's an every week starter, except for bye weeks and assuming no injuries

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 4:45 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 4:45:06 PM

i was offered vince young for braylon edwards.


mcnabb is my QB and my wr's arent great

what should I do?

9/18/2007 4:58:41 PM

who are your other WRs

9/18/2007 4:59:14 PM

Quote :

"jesus fucking christ how many teams are in your league, 6? either that or you are starting chris henry and james thrash at WR"

actually there are 10 i just got real lucky with RBs slipping pretty far, I play reggie wayne and Roy williams at WR as well, my TE sucks though in Leonard Pope



so I decided to trade Henry for LT if he takes it.
if he doesnt do that I will offer Parker

9/18/2007 5:07:06 PM

hines ward, dennis northcutt, crayton, jacoby jones
(we start 2 wr's) 16 person league

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 5:11 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 5:10:45 PM

who is your backup QB?

normally i'd love McNabb until he got hurt, but it seems this season he kind of sucks

9/18/2007 5:15:33 PM

no backup

9/18/2007 5:17:22 PM

^^^^are people really dumb enough to trade LT for a much lesser running back after he had two poor games (even thought he got ~20 points in the first game) against 2 of the best defenses in the league?

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 5:24 PM. Reason : ^]

9/18/2007 5:24:00 PM

no it seems

I just talked to him

he wants MBIII and Westbrook for LT
or BW and Henry
or BW and Parker

seems he just wants BW and another RB

is that worth it?

leaves me with 2 other studs and LT if I make any of those trades.

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 5:28 PM. Reason : f]

9/18/2007 5:25:09 PM