so then Obama would be mocking him for being old? That's even better.

gotta love that liberal compassion and love for diversity

9/16/2008 11:32:40 PM

to the extent that being old presents a inability to learn new things, I support age discrimination.

9/16/2008 11:37:53 PM

nice to know that you support discrimination

9/16/2008 11:42:16 PM

Aren't there specialized computers that have accommodations to assist people with disabilities?

9/16/2008 11:53:57 PM

well, McCain already has one foot in the grave, so why bother, right?

9/17/2008 12:11:39 AM

Now would be an awesome time to review the idea of privatizing social security, no?

9/17/2008 1:22:34 AM

now would be an awesome time to admit that SS is fundamentally broke and get rid of it completely.

9/17/2008 1:26:35 AM

why would mccain give a shit about social security...fuck it he's so old even his kids probably don't need to worry about it

and fuck all this bullshit you're throwing around about him not using a computer because he got injured as a POW...that's the most inane fucktardation excuse I've ever heard

9/17/2008 3:31:10 AM

^ I would believe it was an excuse if it wasn't widely reported as far back as 2000 (see previous page for links).

9/17/2008 6:40:38 AM

Quote :

"Barr files suit to remove Obama and McCain from Texas ballot By Scott Shepard | Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 06:33 PM Libertarian presidential nominee Bob Barr’s campaign filed suit Tuesday seeking to remove Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama from the ballot in Texas, alleging that the two major candidates missed the deadline for officially filing to be on the ballot.[/b] The lawsuit by the former Republican congressman from Georgia claims that neither McCain nor Obama met the requirement of Texas law that all candidates provide “written certification” of their nomination “before 5 p.m. on the 70th day before election day,” because neither had been formally nominated by their respective parties in time. That would have been Aug. 25. Obama did not accept his party’s nomination until Aug. 28, McCain his on Sept. 4. “The seriousness of this issue is self-evident,” the lawsuit states. “The hubris of the major parties has risen to such a level that they do not believe that the election laws of the State of Texas apply to them.” Pat Dixon, chairman of the Texas Libertarian Party, issued a statement saying, “Libertarian principles require personal responsibility for your acts and failures. Obama and McCain failed to meet the deadlines. They must follow the law like everyone else.” Barr first raised the issue in a press release earlier this month. Ashley Burton, a spokesperson for the Texas Secretary of State’s office, responded at that time, saying, “Both parties made filings with our office before the deadline, supplemented their filings and will be on the November ballot.” Barr plans to hold a news conference at the Texas Supreme Court on Thursday. "

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2008/09/16/barr_files_suit_to_remove_obam.html

Weird.

9/17/2008 9:06:35 AM

^ it doesn't sound like the case has merit. Too bad. That would have been really interesting.

9/17/2008 9:09:27 AM

Quote :

"McCain’s people say Palin will not cooperate with the investigation because it is “tainted.” They insist Monegan was fired because of insubordination. "

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/what-does-it-mean-when-palin-won%E2%80%99t-cooperate-with-legislative-investigation/

LOLcano of course it was insubordination. Monegan did not follow Palin's request to fire the trooper which was purely for personnal reasons. The minister was not a "Yes Man" so she replaced him with somebody that would be. Just what i need is a leader who is 2nd in command wants to surround herself with "yes men" that will never challenge or provide alternative viewpoints to gov't decisions.

9/17/2008 9:52:10 AM

^ oh, good to see she's following in the footsteps of Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and every other White House official that has not cooperated with investigations or ignored subpoenas that annoyed them or got in the way of their daily schedule

9/17/2008 9:57:23 AM

She's already applying the Cheney docterine!!

The VP is the 4th branch of gov't and does not have to take part in the normal checks and balances.

9/17/2008 9:58:51 AM

The latest on troopergate from the McCain camp is down right hilarious.

Insubordination because he was going after child molesters too hard.

Now that is some Family Values shit right there.

9/17/2008 10:00:49 AM

I'll give it to her she learns quick. ' Executive Priviledge' is a great way to suppress those liberals from poking around and whose only goals are to ruin our great democracy and surrender our society to the communists.

9/17/2008 10:15:42 AM

McCain on CBS's Early Show:

Quote :

"The point is, I was chairman of the commerce committee. Every part of America's economy, I oversighted. I have a long record, certainly far more extensive of being involved in our economy than Senator Obama does."

Yes, please take credit for the shithole we're in.

9/17/2008 10:19:51 AM

By the way, this is a fucking retarded statement:

Quote :

"Dude. They said he can't use a fucking computer. That's a little bit more than "stretching the truth." That's picking on a dude for a fucking disability that he incurred as a POW. that's quite low."

Hey, you know who can use a computer?




So, I guess his "POW injuries" must be worse than that.

9/17/2008 10:22:06 AM

Quote :

"^ it doesn't sound like the case has merit. Too bad. That would have been really interesting. "

Considering Texas is a McCain state, that could only hurt McCain. Obama should help Barr pay for the lawyers

9/17/2008 10:24:02 AM

nahh he just b.c he's old. My grandma does not even know how to operate a DVD player much less check an email. She's technologically challenged.

9/17/2008 10:24:03 AM

I guess whoever said it was his war injuries was lying then.

9/17/2008 10:30:56 AM

God liars like Jacob Weisberg of Slate (a liberal critic of McCain) in 2000.

Quote :

""Six months ago, no one would have pegged McCain as the most cybersavvy of this year's crop of candidates. At 63, he is the oldest of the bunch and because of his war injuries, he is limited in his ability to wield a keyboard. But McCain's job as chairman of the Senate commerce committee forced him to learn about the Internet early on, and young Web entrepreneurs such as Jerry Yang and Jeff Bezos fascinate him.""

http://www.slate.com/id/74812/

Or the Boston Globe in 2000.

Quote :

"McCain's severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. "

http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml

Please Shut the Fuck Up.

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM. Reason : ``]

9/17/2008 10:38:13 AM

yeah, i'm sure there are no programs designed for people with disabilities to use computers

9/17/2008 10:56:25 AM

The computer issue has to do with mccain's left hand. that doesn't stop older people I know from hunting and pecking at the keyboard.

9/17/2008 11:00:46 AM

^^ What the fuck is your point?

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 11:02 AM. Reason : ``]

9/17/2008 11:01:44 AM

I don't care who wins, Obama or McCain...all I care about is that they spend their time sending emails and doing research personally...its UNACCEPTABLE for them to have secretaries handle their correspondence, or intelligence gathering their...intelligence

9/17/2008 11:04:26 AM

You guys have fucking lost sight of the issue.

The question was whether not using a computer often makes McCain significantly less knowledgeable of modern technology. The answer is no.

He doesn't use computers oftern because of his war injuries, not because he doesn't understand their importance in modern life. Indeed, Jacob Weisberg said that McCain was the most "cyber savvy" of the 2000 candidates (a list that included inventor of the internet, Al Gore).

McCain gets by with help from his wife and aids. I'm sure in a world of limitless resources and time he could have found a computer setup that might suit his injuries (or potentially have something custom made) and learned how to use that unique set up. But that isn't the fucking question.

But I don't even know why I'm wasting my time.

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 11:08 AM. Reason : Not directed at Tree, who I understand is being sarcastic. ]

9/17/2008 11:07:28 AM

you are the one who seems to be harping on this.

9/17/2008 11:08:40 AM

I am only responding to people's comments.
Does this mean you aren't ignoring me anymore?

PS* There is also good reason to harp on this. Obama and his supporters are essentially making light of McCain's war injuries. That ain't cool and it's much much worse than anything McCain has done to BHO.

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 11:13 AM. Reason : ``]

9/17/2008 11:11:49 AM

I only ignore you when I see it fit, like when you tell people they haven't read something they have read or when you are obviously trolling.

So continue to harp away on those POW injuries, that only republicans bring up, while the economy is floundering.

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM. Reason : .]

9/17/2008 11:13:57 AM

Oh that's good. I thought you only did it when you were being immature.

Anyways, so long as Obama and his supporters make fun of McCain's POW injuries, I will point it out.

Especially since the MSM doesn't give a shit about negative attacks...unless they're directed at Obama.

I def. don't think that the media is always this biased, but this election it's pretty blatant. Understandable I guess. Obama seems to really stir strong positive feelings in upper class whites like those running these news agencies.

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 11:20 AM. Reason : ``]

9/17/2008 11:19:32 AM

McCain has opened up his experience as a POW when he started to use it as an excuse to avoid answering tough questions.

healthcare: I was a POW
housing problem: I was a POW
Everything else: I was a POW

McCain: POW::Guilianni:9/11

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 11:21 AM. Reason : .]

9/17/2008 11:21:30 AM

"I was a POW" is not nearly is good as "America, we need change"

9/17/2008 11:22:49 AM

what are you talking about now?

9/17/2008 11:25:01 AM

You don't need your fingers to type and send an email, as God make quite obvious.

This is not a matter of McCain's physical ability to type on a keyboard, it's about his pro-activity to learn and find a way to send an email via any apparatus that he chooses. He has made no attempt to become more computer literate because the man clearly doesn't care enough about it.

For example, Dragon Naturally Speaking software is a very popular software package used most commonly by doctors that are admittedly computer illiterate! Dragon is a speech recognition software package that was among the first programs to make speech recognition practical on any PC. With Dragon you can write a 900 word essay in 6 minutes, while typing 40 words per minute and writing a 900 word essay would take 22 minutes.

Dragon uses a minimal visual interface! Dictated words appear in a floating tooltip as they are spoken, and when the speaker pauses, the program transcribes the words into the active window at the location of the cursor. Like other speech recognition software, NaturallySpeaking has three primary areas of functionality. Dictation, whereby spoken language is transcribed to written text; commands that control, whereby spoken language is recognized as a command to click widgets (controls); and finally text-to-speech whereby written text is converted to synthesized audio stream.

Dragon Naturally Speaking allows users to access their voice profiles in a networked environment. This means the program learns the users voice, and knows where to insert text based on the voice of the user.

There is no excuse for this. Being computer illiterate or unable to type doesn't stop elderly doctors from being computer savvy, so what makes your beloved McCain any different?

Absolutely nothing.

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 11:27 AM. Reason : -]

9/17/2008 11:25:35 AM

Stimwalt

Quote :

"You guys have fucking lost sight of the issue. The question was whether or not using a computer often makes McCain significantly less knowledgeable of modern technology. The answer is no. He doesn't use computers often himself because of his war injuries, not because he doesn't understand their importance in modern life. Indeed, Jacob Weisberg said that McCain was the most "cyber savvy" of the 2000 candidates (a list that included inventor of the internet, Al Gore). His position on the commerce committee has ensured that he has been very active in these issues for years. McCain gets by with help from his wife and aids to do e-mails and etc. I'm sure in a world of limitless resources and time he could have found a computer setup that might suit his injuries (or potentially have something custom made like Hawking) and learned how to use that unique set up. But that isn't the fucking question. But I don't even know why I'm wasting my time."

9/17/2008 11:33:34 AM

^^^why are you being so willfully ignorant to Obama's answer for everything? You sure do love saying McCain mentions that he was a POW when asked anything...why are you playing dumb when I point out how Obama's answer for everything is hope and change?

^^Why does the President of the United States need to use a computer? Can you give me an example of an instance where he would need a computer? I haven't heard one yet.

9/17/2008 11:34:08 AM

Find me one instance of Obama dodging a question by answering Hope and Change. Find me one twista.

9/17/2008 11:36:35 AM

Quote :

"healthcare: I was a POW housing problem: I was a POW Everything else: I was a POW"

^no problem...as soon as you find me one instance of McCain actually using these answers...i'm sure he actually answered those questions like that, and you're not being a complete partisan tool

9/17/2008 11:40:48 AM

Quote :

"^^Why does the President of the United States need to use a computer? Can you give me an example of an instance where he would need a computer? I haven't heard one yet."

exactly... Clinton sent 2 e-mails while in office

the stupidest thing about this e-mail thing is Obama is "hitting back" with an ad about how he doesn't know anything about sending e-mails, although he was voted by his peers to be the most cyber-savvy and the only people that would even think the e-mail issue actually was an issue are the younger demographics which Obama already has. keep hitting back obama, this ad is brilliant

9/17/2008 11:47:46 AM

you really do enjoy throwing out softballs to be hit out of the park

On how many houses he owns

Quote :

"This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years -- in prison."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/21/mccain_spokesmans_retort_obama.html

On the Saddleback "Cone of Silence"

Quote :

"The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/24/1288336.aspx

One Being a Carpetbagger in 1982

Quote :

"The place I lived longest in my life was Hanoi."

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_pow_dodge

On the Keating 5

Quote :

"Even the Vietnamese didn't question my ethics."

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_pow_dodge

On Healthcare

Quote :

"It's a cheap shot, but I did have a period of time where I didn't have very good healthcare, I had it from another government."

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_pow_dodge

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 12:00 PM. Reason : .]

9/17/2008 12:00:19 PM

i like how i ask you for examples of mccain answering questions and you give examples of other people talking about mccain...the 2 examples you actually gave were legit, and the other one is from 26 years ago and obviously has nothing to do with what you were talking about

the answers you gave arent dodging questions either...he's simply incorporating his experience into his answers...dodging questions is when you simply dont answer them

9/17/2008 12:07:07 PM

When you are the campaign spokesperson, you speak for the candidate. Also, the usage of the 1982 comment and the Keating 5 statement is valid as it shows a history of him doing it.

Would you like his statement on ABBA?

Quote :

"tastes in music stopped evolving when my plane intercepted a surface to air missile."

desipte abba coming out 5 years after McCain was shot down.

Quote :

"Leno: For one million dollars, how many houses do you have? McCain: Could I just mention to you Jay, that in a moment of seriousness, I spent five and a half years in a prison cell, I didn't have a house, I didn't have a kitchen table, I didn't have a table, I didn't have a chair..."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/26/leno-asks-mccain-how-many_n_121389.html

and of course we have the famous Sean Hannity line of "Five and a half years, Alan" when discussing his adultery.

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 12:12 PM. Reason : .]

9/17/2008 12:10:17 PM

so whats your point

all i'm getting from this is that mccain bravely served this country unlike the candidate running against him...and you act like its a bad thing that he served the country...maybe we should do like your liberal blogs and say he was a shitty pilot and he was more of a fuckup in the military than anything else...you know, take the real classy and non partisan route

this motherfucker just quoted jay leno in the soap box

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 12:13 PM. Reason : .]

9/17/2008 12:12:52 PM

the point is, whenever McCain is in a bind, such as the Keating 5, not knowing how many houses he owns, questions on healthcare, etc. he pulls up the POW card to deflect attention. He is turning his experience as a POW into a joke, just like what Rudy Gulianni did with 9/11

9/17/2008 12:14:07 PM

just like obama did 6 months ago with hope and change...he might not literally say "hope and change" when dodging his own questions, but the whole "hope and change" thing has become a joke in itself

the difference is, military service to this country is a lot more valuable and tangible than hope and change

9/17/2008 12:17:52 PM

Again, find me one instance of Obama using Hope and Change as a means of deflecting a question. Find me one.

9/17/2008 12:19:06 PM

Quote :

"The question was whether or not using a computer often at all makes McCain significantly less knowledgeable of modern technology. The answer is no yes."

You have no right to dictate what the question is, to assume that you do suggests ignorance.

By that logic, why does the President need to have fired a weapon? The Generals that serve under him are experts in the field and are far more qualified militarily by any measure. The same can be said in regards to modern technology. The difference is that firing a gun remains the same, and modern technology is ever changing. Hell, it changes the way we fire a gun.

V

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 12:43 PM. Reason : -]

9/17/2008 12:33:40 PM

^^he doesn't get that specific when he dodges questions...that doesnt change the fact that "hope and change" have become a joke (not that they had any substance to begin with)

^

Quote :

"Why does the President of the United States need to use a computer? Can you give me an example of an instance where he would need a computer? I haven't heard one yet"

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 12:35 PM. Reason : .]

9/17/2008 12:34:56 PM

I hope for a change ...

9/17/2008 12:36:37 PM