Quote :

"Maddox got truck-sticked by a guy 40 pounds lighter than him. Not trying to hate on him in particular, nobody out there looked big and physical on our side of the ball."

Kuhn? That guy is a beast.

9/23/2011 11:54:15 AM

Quote :

"We blitz too many guys to play zone. It's fucking retarded. If we're going to send 2+ guys every time, then we need to play man."

ding ding ding

9/23/2011 12:07:16 PM

I gotta say, I'm not sure where many more wins are going to come from this year. Cincy is a decent team, nothing more. Wake is a bad team. Where does that leave us? Could turn even more ugly this year...

9/23/2011 12:31:11 PM

The season is really starting to feel like Amato's last year, but of course we haven't lost to an Akron-type team yet (but we do have Central Michigan coming up).

9/23/2011 12:35:54 PM

Fellas, we have the real potential for our defense and running game to (seriously?) improve once we get some guys back.

9/23/2011 12:40:43 PM

^why, whatever are you talking about? We can't win with all most of our big playmakers out injured, and clearly this is Tom's fault so we should fire him. That's the only way we can improve.

9/23/2011 12:45:34 PM

Maddox played awful. I was rooting for the guy, but his instincts aren't there. Manning would've helped out a lot in that game, keeping Collaros under pressure and in the pocket.

Also, I'm thinking Audie Cole is a much better OLB than inside. He's got great speed and instincts, but he still can't tackle worth a damn. That's the main thing a MLB needs to do.

Getting Sweezy, Rieskamp, Teal, etc back is defintiely going to help, but we're not a good defense even with those guys.

Lastly, something is just missing with this team -- there's no fire, no "it." Seems like they're going through the motions out there ... there's no fight. It's downright depressing to watch. You can talk about injuries/leadership, but at some point, it goes back to TOB

9/23/2011 12:49:22 PM

Quote :

"^why, whatever are you talking about? We can't win with all most of our big playmakers out injured, and clearly this is Tom's fault so we should fire him. That's the only way we can improve."

So....the offense is hurt too then, right? The O-line improvement we were all promised is only not happening because they're all...injured? The wide receivers are dropping passes because the starters aren't there? You're right. It all makes perfect sense now.

When the defense is hurt you keep them off the field with lengthy possessions. Only issue...we can't do that.

9/23/2011 12:57:21 PM

Getting our D-line starters isn't going to make Archer stop putting Amerson and CJ Wilson 10 yds off the ball on every play. Amerson has the skill set to match up one on one, but Archer refuses to let him...

9/23/2011 1:03:30 PM

Quote :

"When the defense is hurt you keep them off the field with lengthy possessions. Only issue...we can't do that."

This. Our offense was atrocious and had short 3 and out possessions, and if they weren't three and out then the drive was kept going with passing plays. No good running game to help keep the clock running and keep the defense off of the field.

and ^This. God damn I hate our defense coaches.

[Edited on September 23, 2011 at 1:08 PM. Reason : lkj]

9/23/2011 1:08:20 PM

Quote :

"So....the offense is hurt too then, right?"

Well, our best RB is. Hopefully Mustafa will do better than -26 rushing yards.

9/23/2011 1:17:45 PM

You do realize the playclock is the same length regardless of whether the game clock is moving or not.

The problem is in college football you need an athlete at qb, not just a passer.

Glennon might make the NFL for all I know, but hes not going to have a ton of success at this level putting points on the board until he gets much better at reading defenses because he takes too many sacks.

Our defense is horrible. Without nate Irving our scheme has no chance to succeed.

9/23/2011 1:17:48 PM

So this is what, the third year out of four that the team has been quickly hit with lots of injuries to key players.

That's a trend, how does that happen? I don't remember having this problem with our previous coaches. What is it that's being done or not being done that's so rough on the players?

/It's not like these are happening in games either. These are practice injuries.

9/23/2011 1:22:51 PM

shit happens

9/23/2011 1:24:51 PM

Manning Injured in game
Slay Injured in game

and just because it was reported in practice doesn't mean it wasn't a lingering issue from games. agreed we have too many summer injuries.

9/23/2011 1:26:26 PM

Shit happens one season, maybe two. Moderately healthy teams should be the rule instead of the exception.

Has TOB changed strength coaches since getting here?

[Edited on September 23, 2011 at 1:27 PM. Reason : Stupid auto-correct]

9/23/2011 1:26:49 PM

^we just hired a new strength and conditioning coordinator for our athletic program during the summer...supposed to be good

http://www.gopack.com/genrel/alejo_bob00.html

[Edited on September 23, 2011 at 1:35 PM. Reason : asdf]

9/23/2011 1:34:46 PM

no offense, but if you think the injuries are the fault of S&C coach... you may be retarded.

9/23/2011 1:37:02 PM

Well it certainly reflects on someone on the coaching staff.

You realize they are the constant right?

9/23/2011 1:57:07 PM

we have the second most injuries. behind oregon state

we have 8 guys out. they have 11. pwnt


Player Status/Updated Notes
James Rodgers WR Prob Sat - Knee - 9/22/11 Rodgers did not play in Week 2 due to a knee injury but is considered probable for Saturday's game against UCLA.
Joe Halahuni TE Prob Sat - Shoulder - 9/20/11 Halahuni sat out Week 3 as he continues to deal with a shoulder injury. He is considered probable for Saturday's game against UCLA.
Jordan Bishop WR Ques Sat - Ankle - 9/20/11 Bishop is suffering from an ankle injury and is considered questionable for Saturday's game against UCLA.
Markus Wheaton WR Ques Sat - Ribs - 9/20/11 Wheaton is suffering from a rib injury and is considered questionable for Saturday's game against UCLA.
Michael Lamb G Ques Sat - Shoulder - 9/20/11 Lamb is dealing with a shoulder injury and is considered questionable for Saturday's game against UCLA.
Jovan Stevenson RB Ques Sat - Ankle - 9/20/11 Stevenson is dealing with an ankle injury and is considered questionable for Saturday's game against UCLA.
Dominic Glover DT Ques Sat - Academics - 9/20/11 Glover is dealing with academic issues but is considered questionable for Saturday's game against UCLA.
Castro Masaniai DT Doub Sat - Suspension - 9/20/11 Masaniai is currently serving a suspension and is expected to miss Saturday's game against UCLA.
Malcolm Agnew RB Doub Sat - Hamstring - 9/20/11 Agnew did not play in Week 2 as he is dealing with an injured right hamstring. He remains doubtful for Saturday's game against UCLA.
Josh Andrews G Out indefinitely - Knee - 9/20/11 Andrews suffered a right knee injury in Week 2 and is expected to miss at least 4 weeks. He could return in late October.
Brandon Hardin CB Out indefinitely - Shoulder - 8/28/11 Hardin will be out indefinitely while he recovers from a shoulder injury.
Josh LaGrone S out for season - Knee - 8/28/11 LaGrone will miss the entire 2011-12 season due to a knee injury

9/23/2011 2:01:58 PM

Tackling?

Tackling.

Tackling.

Tackling.

Tackling?

TACKLING?

Tackling.

9/23/2011 2:02:45 PM

That's this year, I wonder how the first half of the season injury numbers stand up over a 4 year period. Including last year and excluding last year.

9/23/2011 2:03:37 PM

Quote :

"Well it certainly reflects on someone on the coaching staff. You realize they are the constant right?"

Correlation doesn't imply causation

It could be that the practice field was built on an ancient Indian burial ground.

It could be that NC State is ranked #1 in shitty luck.

I could keep going..

[Edited on September 23, 2011 at 2:20 PM. Reason : .]

9/23/2011 2:18:32 PM

Paul Cousins has been a constant as well during this trying time.

Perhaps firing him will help.

9/23/2011 2:26:05 PM

our current injury situation

Player Status/Updated Notes
Terrell Manning LB Ques Week 5 - Knee - 9/23/11 Manning is dealing with a knee injury and is considered questionable for week 5 against Georgia Tech.
Jeff Rieskamp DE Ques Week 5 - Shoulder - 9/23/11 Rieskamp missed his last three games due to a shoulder injury. He is considered questionable for Week 5 against Georgia Tech.
Logan Winkles FB Ques Week 5 - Knee - 9/23/11 Winkles has been recovering from offseason knee surgery and has not played in a game yet this season. He is considered questionable for Week 5 against Georgia Tech.
Thomas Teal DT Mid Oct - Foot - 9/7/11 Teal suffered a broken bone in his foot during the season opening game against Liberty. He is expected to miss 4-6 weeks as a result.
Sterling Lucas LB out for season - Knee - 9/3/11 Lucas will miss the entire 2011-12 season while he recovers from a knee injury.
Jarvis Byrd CB out for season - Knee - 9/3/11 Byrd will miss the entire 2011-12 season due to a knee injury.
J.R. Sweezy DT Mid Oct - Foot - 8/28/11 Sweezy is expected to miss the first six weeks of the season while he recovers from a foot injury.
Mustafa Greene HB Early Oct - Foot - 9/3/11 Greene is expected to miss the first month of the season due to a foot injury.

9/23/2011 2:31:05 PM

I don't know if this has been posted yet. I stumbled upon it while looking up another coach.

http://www.coacheshotseat.com/TomOBrien.htm

9/23/2011 2:41:24 PM

We should go ahead and grab Mark Richt or Mack Brown

9/23/2011 3:38:13 PM

Quote :

"Also, I'm thinking Audie Cole is a much better OLB than inside. He's got great speed and instincts, but he still can't tackle worth a damn. That's the main thing a MLB needs to do."

Yeah, that much is pretty obvious.

9/23/2011 3:41:18 PM

I'm not one of those people who claims X's and O's are simple, but Jesse Palmer last night kept commenting that our OLB aren't doing there job and pushing plays towards Audi so that he can finish them off.

9/23/2011 3:48:50 PM

9/23/2011 4:00:13 PM

sorry, off topic, but just found this: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/North_Carolina_State_University

9/23/2011 4:05:56 PM

^ the best part of that is how they used a pic of elton john for john edwards

9/23/2011 4:29:36 PM

19-17.

9/23/2011 4:31:15 PM

record | highlight of season

2007 5-7 First win over UNC in years
2008 6-7 PapaJohns.com bowl L
2009 5-7 3rd win in a row over UNC
2010 9-4 Citrus bowl W / Beating FSU and UNC
2011 4-8? maybe finally beating BC at BC for the first time in ever.

9/23/2011 4:49:27 PM

^^^ this is clearly the best part of that

Quote :

"Sweet Living University Towers Sweet Living University Towers (or SLUT) is the NC State brothel, wherein even a player with amateur game can get lucky and if they're really lucky, leave with only one of 246,000 STD's. It's like having your own private ECU girl's dormitory on campus, even though it's really not, but it's down the street from Bragaw, which is awesome, because it's shaped like an X. It was here that a member of ROTC banged this decent looking ginger and taped it and disseminated it worldwide. People thought they performed so well, they got a standing ovation the next time they were seen. Knowing their life's purpose fulfilled, the couple later transferred to spread the love to other schools."

9/23/2011 4:58:10 PM

Quote :

"no offense, but if you think the injuries are the fault of S&C coach... you may be retarded. "

um.... hell no. they can directly correlate to that...

-overworking players
-lack of focus on flexibility
-not enough training
-not mixing up conditioning

S&C is not a science. so YOU may be retarded

9/23/2011 4:59:09 PM

^i'm sure the S&C coach is unaware of that information. You should pass it on to him.

9/23/2011 5:03:40 PM

This is the most awesome for just being true

Quote :

"If he doesn't like you, he will photoshop your pictures to make it look like you were drinking in a dry dorm and change your license so that it was underage. Paul Cousins doesn't fuck around."

9/23/2011 5:10:18 PM

^^

being aware doesnt mean you know the balance of it all and are good at your job smartass. geez, dont make yourself look worse by rebuttaling

[Edited on September 23, 2011 at 5:11 PM. Reason : bite the bullet]

9/23/2011 5:10:44 PM

maybe we can get Tom O'Reilly or Rich Gutierrez

9/23/2011 5:28:27 PM

Yeah but you are just talking out of your ass. Maybe it's the schemes we run. Maybe its the fact that we recruit 2-3* and they just get destroyed. Maybe its having to practice in the heat when other teams practice in the comfort of AC. Lots of fucking possibilities here other than just spouting shit based on conjecture.

9/23/2011 5:29:06 PM

So you're saying that this guy http://www.gopack.com/genrel/alejo_bob00.html, who's been in the business for quite a while, isn't aware of the balance? Maybe football isn't his forte.

9/23/2011 5:31:05 PM

you made yourself look worse again... facepalm

not about AWARENESS... its about execution and knowing what/if your players can handle the balance and scripting custom routines player by player. or does he just say "OK ALL LBS bench 250 ten times before ALL LBS squatting 500 twenty times"

we dont know the exact problem with ncsu but... injuries can definitely be directly linked the s&c coach. you will not be allowed to say its impossible on this message board, take that ignorance to IC

i mean... is this making any sense to you

9/23/2011 5:36:28 PM

maybe the S&C coach should have chauffeured Irving from Wallace to Raleigh two years ago

9/23/2011 5:43:41 PM

oh damn thats reaching, dont troll on this please

9/23/2011 5:47:07 PM

Quote :

"And what mythical coaching magic is TOB supposed to whip out of his bag of tricks to compensate for injuries? Jesus, our defense and running game is decimated, it's 2 years ago all over again. You fickle assholes were screaming "Fire TOB" after the injury plagued 2009 season, then promptly worshiped him after he tied the school's best season record last year."

I remember blaming him for only tying that record last year. Two of our losses were pathetic. We had a complete roster with sr leadership and stars on both sides. The stars aligned last year and we will never have a team with more talent. Thats the peak. I had seen enough of him asfter last year honestly...and that was before this summer....

Quote :

"with wilson we would have maybe scored 17 or 21. tops. anybody denying that is a cunt"

All I have to go by is last year where wilson destoryed that defense. 14 points is NOT good. Just because you pass on every down and rack up yards from two big plays does not equate to a good night. ESPECIALLY when you throw two costly picks. It was an awful night on both sides of the ball.

9/23/2011 5:54:46 PM

9/23/2011 5:56:28 PM

Shit. I've been a student this whole time. I'm the FUCKING CONSTANT

9/23/2011 5:57:15 PM

rebuttaling?

9/23/2011 6:31:01 PM

yea you like that "verb"

9/23/2011 6:37:52 PM