only one defender between him and the goal when the ball was flicked on

good call

6/11/2010 10:43:59 AM

im not even a soccer/futbol fan but i understand the vuvuzelas necessity for the world cup .... they aren't annoying to me in the least [/high horse]

6/11/2010 10:44:02 AM

some good chances for Mexico. they're applying all the pressure

6/11/2010 10:44:02 AM

I'm watching in Spanish - why isnt' that a goal (n00b)

6/11/2010 10:44:04 AM

Quote :

"Keeper's playing great so far... I'm surprised the game's still tied."

Yeah the SA keeper is the only thing keeping them in the game. They are being dominated by Mex just cant get it in.

^ offsides

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 10:45 AM. Reason : a]

6/11/2010 10:44:30 AM

The defender takes the place of the goalkeeper so the last defender in this case is the goalkeeper, and the offensive player was behind him when the ball was played.

It was really an excellent call.

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 10:45 AM. Reason : ]

6/11/2010 10:45:01 AM

ehh he got lucky just then. thats the worst thing you can do is come out on a corner and fan at it. hes about 1 foot of offsides of it being 1-0 and it being his fault

mexico are dominating in the air in the box...if they keep it up 2nd half they could blow south africa out if they actually start finding the net

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 10:46 AM. Reason : d]

6/11/2010 10:45:18 AM

Offside. There has to be 2 defenders between the attacker and the goal. Typically one of the defenders is the goaltender. The attacker was behind the goalie, leaving only one defender (the one standing at the front post) between him and the goal.
The English announcers are complaining, but I think it was the right call.

Quote :

"It was really an excellent call."

Seriously it was. At first I was like, "WTF? How can you possibly be offside on a corner??"
But then they showed the replay and I was like "oh snap"

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 10:47 AM. Reason : ]

6/11/2010 10:45:55 AM

how was that offside with a defender on the goal line?

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 10:46 AM. Reason : ;]

6/11/2010 10:45:56 AM

people always talk about the goalkeeper when trying to explain offside and i've never understood why

the goalkeeper is irrelevant

it's two defenders between the you and the goal when the ball is played

two defenders

simple

6/11/2010 10:46:04 AM

I'm also like 95% sure that Martin Tyler knows the rule he just doesn't wanna call his partner out.

6/11/2010 10:46:14 AM

Quote :

"A player is in an offside position if: • he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent"

Pretty clear in the Fifa handbook.. Don't know why the announcer was so up in arms...

6/11/2010 10:46:14 AM

2nd to last defender: the keeper is also a defender, so when he moves up, he becomes the "2nd to last defender"

6/11/2010 10:46:16 AM

For whoever asked, the game's approaching the 41st minute.

6/11/2010 10:46:23 AM

When the ball was kicked, both the keeper and one defender (asshat on the goal line) were behind him. It was clearly not offsides.

6/11/2010 10:47:39 AM

never knew it was the second-last defender. makes sense now though.

6/11/2010 10:47:46 AM

khune plays some damn good balls. and it's surprising how shocked they were that it was called offsides.

6/11/2010 10:47:48 AM

Quote :

"When the ball was kicked, both the keeper and one defender (asshat on the goal line) were behind him. It was clearly not offsides."

And when the ball was flicked on in the box, the keeper was in front of him. Clearly offsides.

6/11/2010 10:48:34 AM

Quote :

"When the ball was kicked, both the keeper and one defender (asshat on the goal line) were behind him. It was clearly not offsides."

When the ball was headed to the guy who scored the keeper had already pulled forward. Sorry, try again.

6/11/2010 10:48:50 AM

Great ball, great cross... could've been epic. Hopefully they can get the corner off well...

6/11/2010 10:49:00 AM

That header would have been an awesome goal.

6/11/2010 10:49:20 AM

here comes SA finally making a good push

6/11/2010 10:49:24 AM

2 guys (including the goalie) between you and the goal when the ball is kicked and you're not offsides.

Oh, didn't see the header.

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 10:50 AM. Reason : header.]

6/11/2010 10:49:34 AM

WHEN THE BALL IS PLAYED, YOU DUMB FUCK

IT WAS PLAYED WITH A HEADER IN THE BOX

6/11/2010 10:50:02 AM

Quote :

"never knew it was the second-last defender. makes sense now though."

People typically say it's the last defender, but the common assumption is that the goalie will always be back there and you don't have to worry about him.

6/11/2010 10:50:05 AM

Lots of corner kick opps, too bad they couldn't convert.

6/11/2010 10:50:08 AM

It's ok that you don't get it dude. But you should stop pwning yourself.

6/11/2010 10:50:22 AM

serious question here, because i'm honestly trying to become more informed


why's the field so damned big?

6/11/2010 10:50:28 AM

They'll get lucky one of these times... they just have trouble connecting. There's been some great crosses/kicks so far for SA.

6/11/2010 10:50:44 AM

^^because there are 22 guys playing

6/11/2010 10:51:31 AM

theyll get lucky? theyre lucky they arent down 2 or 3 nothing right now with some of the free headers mexico has had

6/11/2010 10:51:42 AM

yeah SA is lucky they arent down already by 1 or 2. But they are looking alot better now.

6/11/2010 10:52:23 AM

SA's keeper's been doing great so far.

6/11/2010 10:52:27 AM

i count three free headers for mexico and two for SA

not a big disparity

6/11/2010 10:52:33 AM

headers don't matter because everyone on the field is too damn short to make a good connection


this looks like a game where the underdog gains confidence the longer the favorite goes without scoring. and likewise, mexico might tighten up if they can't score quickly in the second half. here's hoping for a late SA goal

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 10:56 AM. Reason : ]

6/11/2010 10:53:42 AM

mexico has had chances on the ground too. gio dos santos went inches wide and they were a foot or two of offsides with that goal disallowed. mexico have had way more chances

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 10:56 AM. Reason : they had a cross cum shot from vela that was dangerous too]

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 10:57 AM. Reason : oh and theyve had 2 blocked shots on dos santos too, i forgot about the early chance]

6/11/2010 10:54:41 AM

not debating that mexico has had more chances

but you said they'd be up 2 or 3 with free headers

and in the air the teams are about even

6/11/2010 10:57:01 AM

seriously dude, how old are you?

6/11/2010 10:57:30 AM

lol @ the American (presumably) drinking a Budweiser.

6/11/2010 10:58:01 AM

cross cum shot?

i think i missed that part




never in my life of playing/watching/reading soccer have i come across that term.

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 11:02 AM. Reason : ]

6/11/2010 10:58:15 AM

old enough to know that you should say what you mean when making a point?

6/11/2010 10:59:12 AM

Quote :

"seriously dude, how old are you?"

Listen to him. He remembers the WC game when the US beat England

6/11/2010 10:59:16 AM

Quote :

"cross that could be a shot or vice versa"

6/11/2010 10:59:16 AM

SAL MASKAKALELEAK

NOW IT'S A PARTY

6/11/2010 11:01:52 AM

I think the horns add to the atmosphere at best, and are easily ignored at worst

6/11/2010 11:02:08 AM

vuvuzelas seem much quieter than at the CC

6/11/2010 11:02:38 AM

do you people have jobs and/or how are you able to watch this from work?

6/11/2010 11:04:45 AM

Yeah, at the CC, those were the only thing you could hear.

6/11/2010 11:04:48 AM

The funny thing is that I can't even hear the vuvuzelas anymore. I am working and watching the game, and my coworkers occasionally walk in and the first thing they ask is, "What is that noise?"

I have totally tuned it out. I hope South Africa can convert some chances in the second half. I am really pulling for them to do well this year.

6/11/2010 11:05:22 AM

Quote :

"do you people have jobs and/or how are you able to watch this from work?"

espn3.com.

Work my ass off all the time and do 10 times as much as other people so they probably won't give me shit for streaming this on my 2nd monitor.

6/11/2010 11:05:45 AM